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AIBU to expect my adult son to move out so I can finally live the life I've always dreamed of?

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YourUmberOP · Today 09:28

AIBU to expect my adult son to move out so I can finally live the life I've always dreamed of?

I'm after some honest opinions because I'm increasingly frustrated with the situation and wondering whether I'm being unreasonable.

A bit of background. I've worked continuously since I was 16. I've never had a gap year, never had that period of freedom to just go and explore the world and do the things I've always wanted to do. I've always put everyone else first, or something life threw at us has taken priority.

Living by the coast, having a boat and being able to sail and explore Europe has been my dream since I was six years old. This isn't some recent midlife crisis or a whim I've suddenly developed. My late husband and I always planned to do this together. It was something we'd always talked about and intended to make happen.

My husband died four years ago. That's really the only thing that's changed about the dream. I still want the same life, even though my world has fundamentally changed.

My son is 20, nearly 21, lives at home and works full-time. He earns around £2,000 a month after tax. I've explained that I want to relocate and that he needs to start making plans to get his own place. This isn't news to him; we've been discussing it for months.

His only regular fixed outgoings are car insurance (£160) and a phone contract (£40), plus the usual costs of maintaining and running his car. I charge him £300 a month board, which I've actually been putting into a savings account for him. He doesn't know about this, as I want him to have a little nest egg when he eventually moves out.

Even allowing for fuel, food (which I buy all his meals to take to work anyway) and personal spending, he has considerable scope to save. He has £1,500 each month after his fixed bills and board. We're now four months down the line and he's saved virtually nothing.

i personally earn about the same as him so I know how to make money stretch.

There seems to be no urgency, no real plans and no apparent recognition that he needs to start taking responsibility for his own future. I appreciate that I shouldn't be the one saving for him, but equally I'm trying to make sure he has a decent start when he does leave home.

I understand that renting is expensive and that moving out for the first time can be daunting. I'm not expecting him to buy a house or live in luxury. A room in a shared house would be a perfectly reasonable starting point.

I, on the other hand, have very little tying me to where I currently live. I moved here 12 years ago for my husband's work. I have no real friends here, I hate my job and there are very limited alternative employment opportunities locally.

Most of our friends were through my husband's work and, since he passed away, we rarely speak or meet socially. I feel like I'm in a bit of a hole here.

My son is settled. He has lots of friends locally through school and work and understandably doesn't want to relocate with me. I understand that, and I'm not expecting him to give up his social life and move somewhere he doesn't want to live. But I don't think his preference to stay here should automatically mean I have to stay here too.

There's another reason I feel quite strongly about doing this sooner rather than later. My parents are getting older. Realistically, I know there may come a point in the next 5–10 years when I'll have caring responsibilities for them. I want to make the most of the time I have now, while I'm still young enough, fit enough and able to sail, travel and explore.
If I put everything off for another five or ten years, I could easily find myself having spent my entire adult life looking after everybody else, only to reach a point where I'm too old or have too many responsibilities to do the things I've dreamed about since childhood.

It sometimes feels as though I've spent my entire adult life fulfilling responsibilities and putting other people's needs first. I don't want to reach retirement age having never actually lived the life I've spent decades dreaming about.
I don't want to spend my life waiting for the next family responsibility to finish before I'm allowed to start living.

I love my son and I'm not looking to abandon him. But he's an adult, he's earning a decent wage and I think it's reasonable to expect him to start building an independent life.

I've worked since I was 16, raised my child, dealt with losing my husband and kept everything going. I see this next chapter as my opportunity to have the gap year or two I've never had.

So AIBU to say that I'm moving ahead with my plans and that he needs to make alternative living arrangements, rather than continuing to put my life on hold because he hasn't bothered to save?
At what point do you stop organising your life around your adult children and start living it for yourself?
And more importantly, how do I actually get this message across to him? Do I set a firm deadline and stick to it, regardless of whether he's saved enough? What do I do if that deadline arrives and he still hasn't made any effort?

I genuinely don't know whether I'm being unreasonable, whether I'm expecting too much or whether I just need to accept that it's time to put myself first.

I suppose that's why I'm asking the internet!

OP posts:
Mosaic80 · Today 14:48

I think it’s really reasonable to give him a couple of years to get things together. I’d look at the cost of a very small
place for him where you live. If he saved and you donated a bit from the house sale, could he get a reasonable deposit and a mortgage? Or he could rent a room in a house for a bit initially but have a pot of money for a house deposit in time.

kerstina · Today 14:49

I have been in the same position as you . In my case my Mum had dementia and I could not leave her . DS came from uni back to live at home too. I started to declutter though and aim towards the dream. Visiting different coastal places seeing where we could see ourselves living. I would say just be patient and try and make the most of the time with your DS rather than resenting him.
in my case my DM died last year and two months later DS moved out but I didn’t feel excited I felt grief that I was losing him so soon after losing my DM. We did put our house on the market though sold our home quickly and days away from completing. You will get your dream start planning slowly but surely.

Sartre · Today 14:58

He’s in a much stronger position than many. If he gets his act together and actually starts saving now as you have suggested, coupled with the 3.6k a year you’ve put aside presumably for around 1-2 years so maybe 3-4 years by the time you leave, he may even have enough for a modest deposit to be frank. You’re hardly kicking him to the curb with immediate effect.

CloserTalker · Today 15:00

ToKittyornottoKitty · Today 09:33

I don’t think you are being totally unreasonable but it’s a bit odd you write it all like ‘I’ve done so much for everyone else’ when actually, you did choose your life and to have children… you’ve not been put in this situation, your son doesn’t owe you this. And he’s very young in a very expensive world, so it’s a bit shit you are so desperate to be done with parenting/having him around. You may regret pushing him out in years to come when your dream is done.

This. You talk as if your life has been one big sacrifice. Such a martyr! Get over yourself: it was the life you chose and what a privilege to have a husband and child you love. You now want another sort of life, one that doesn't involve your (still quite young) son living with you.

I feel for the boy, tbh. At the same time, this other life is calling you very strongly. Go find this seaside home and then give your son a firm deadline. I wish you both well.

Delatron · Today 15:02

I think we need to stop calling him a ‘boy’ and a ‘child’. He is her adult son.

AlexandraCarrington · Today 15:13

Children are for life OP.

But they are not children for life. At some point they become adults and start making plans and taking responsibility for themselves and their own lives. Or should do.

CalledIt · Today 15:18

AlexandraCarrington · Today 15:13

Children are for life OP.

But they are not children for life. At some point they become adults and start making plans and taking responsibility for themselves and their own lives. Or should do.

Absolutely. The OP's son is an adult. She's not planning to dump him on the street with no warning, just signalling to him the timeline of her plans, which, as they should, prioritise her own wishes.

Delatron · Today 15:21

AlexandraCarrington · Today 15:13

Children are for life OP.

But they are not children for life. At some point they become adults and start making plans and taking responsibility for themselves and their own lives. Or should do.

Yes and it’s actually our job as a parent to make sure they can live independently. They are adults not children .

Fayekinnit · Today 15:38

Twenty is quite young - I would give him a two year deadline and start working towards that with him.

Assuming your husband was also his father, he's been through quite a bit in his teen years too. By then he will hopefully have saved a nice nest egg and be earning a bit more too. I get that you're keen to move on but two years will go in a flash and give you more time to prepare.

On a side note, it is a shame that the people you used to socialise with when your husband was alive haven't continued to include you.

lessglittermoremud · Today 15:54

I would put your house on the market asap and then if funds allow and your currently location is fairly close to your parents buy a smaller property in that location for him to rent from you, if you would still have the funds after doing that to relocate.
You’ve said your parents will probably need help in 5-10 years time so unless they live in the area you want to relocate to, it would be handy to have a property near them should you need it in the future.
If funds won’t allow then you need to sale and relocate, until you put the sign up there is no hurry for him to move.

InLawTwats · Today 15:57

HowNowBrownCow33 · Today 14:24

Do you not think its sad youve only stayed 2 nights at your parents house since you were 17? Someone moving out at 17 and having to work to pay for their rent whilst still at school and then never going home isnt indicative of a loving, supportive relationship between parent and child.

If it happens, they will survive but its not the relationship most people strive for with their adult child

I guess it depends on how you measure the parent:child relationship. I was very independent at a very young age, not least because my parents welcomed my questions and engaged me in domestic and financial responsibilities early, eg cooking, washing, ironing etc, plus having an allowance from about 14 and being expected to work for anything else I wanted.

My mother is still working in a professional role in her 70s so I guess I just have a strong work ethic and desire to stand on my own 2 feet. I have encouraged my parents to take work opportunities abroad several times because life is for living. I never wanted them sitting in a big house waiting for a time when I might need to stay there. We’ve travelled to lots of places together but there’s never been any reason to stay at their house. 🤷🏻‍♀️

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