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To ask why my DIL is being cold?

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ConfusedGranS · Today 10:00

My son and daughter-in-law are both in their 30s and have two children, aged 4 and a baby.
Before they got married, I always had a lovely relationship with my DIL. She was friendly, warm and seemed very happy to spend time with us. However, since they got married, I’ve noticed a real change in her attitude towards me and my husband.
She’s become quite cold and distant. When we visit, I feel as though she puts on a face and is just being polite for the sake of it. There’s an uncomfortable atmosphere that wasn’t there before.
A few things have made me notice the difference even more. For example, she doesn’t seem to behave this way when my son’s siblings (the children’s aunts and uncles) visit. She’s perfectly relaxed and friendly with them. It’s specifically when we’re around that things seem strained.
They have a four-bedroom house, and there’s a spare bedroom, but we’ve never been invited to stay. Both children currently sleep in their parents’ room, so it’s not as though there isn’t space. I appreciate that nobody is obliged to host us, and I’m not particularly bothered about staying there, but it does feel as though we’re being kept at arm’s length.
I also feel that we’re not really encouraged to have much involvement with the children. We’ve offered to babysit, but they’ve never taken us up on it. They have a full-time nanny and housekeeper, so I appreciate they have childcare arrangements in place, and I’m not suggesting we’re entitled to look after the children. We’ve never been left alone with them, and as far as I’m aware, we’ve never done anything to make them uncomfortable or given them any reason to question our care of the children.
For context, my DIL comes from a considerably wealthier background than we do. We’ve never had the same financial means as her family, but we’ve always tried to be welcoming and supportive. I don’t know whether that has anything to do with it, and I don’t want to make assumptions.
I’ve spoken to my son about whether anything is wrong, but his response is always along the lines of “No, no, everything’s fine”. He doesn’t elaborate, and I don’t want to put him in the middle or create problems in their marriage.
I’m genuinely not looking for an argument or demanding a closer relationship than she wants. I’m quite happy to respect boundaries and be a hands-off grandmother if that’s what they prefer. I’m also happy to change anything about my behaviour if I’ve unknowingly done something to upset her.
What I find difficult is the awkwardness and not knowing where I stand.
Would I be unreasonable to ask my DIL directly, perhaps privately, whether I’ve done something to upset her or whether there’s anything she’d like me to do differently? Or is that likely to make things even more uncomfortable?
I don’t want to force a relationship, but equally, I don’t think it’s unreasonable to want to understand why things have changed so much.

OP posts:
Ohidontknowblahblah · Today 15:20

I wouldn't go behind her back and ask the other siblings. Just be upfront and ask her, alone.

SedationSleep · Today 15:22

Jonasate · Today 15:02

Hell no. OP, don’t ask this. She’s waited years to have her children and will not want anybody other than herself to take her children to meet Santa. That’s a very special thing for parents to do with children at Christmas. If my in laws suggested this, I would be horrified.

horrified

Precious parenting makes me 🤯

seahorsessky · Today 15:25

I hope she's not being a snob, or into misogyny (yes, women perpetuating the monster in law stereotypes is lapping up the worst kind of patriarchy, where women scrap with each other just because). Maybe she has something going on in her life making her react badly? Or maybe she has misinterpreted something you've said or done? Yes, I would talk this out. Some relatives are just how they are and you can drive yourself mad trying to change them, but at least you know you've done your best.

aperolspritzbasicbitch · Today 15:29

Timeforachange26 · Today 15:14

Is it? A special thing for parents? Who made that rule?

I don’t think this is unusual?

you get roughly 10 chances to take your child to see Santa, I don’t know many parents who would give up such a limited experience with their child.

I wouldn’t miss a trip to Santa with mine.

Gloriia · Today 15:30

Ohidontknowblahblah · Today 15:20

I wouldn't go behind her back and ask the other siblings. Just be upfront and ask her, alone.

It's hardly going behind her back to ask her own dc what they think? They'll be best placed to have theories and the op can go from there.
If she asks her she'll deny and gaslight, it's what badly behaved people do.

ThereIsSomethingWrongWithTheLeftFilange · Today 15:30

Loub1987 · Today 14:46

No one here can tell you, just ask her.

That was the whole point of her thread. To ask peoples opinions on whether or not she should ask her outright.

Gloriia · Today 15:31

aperolspritzbasicbitch · Today 15:29

I don’t think this is unusual?

you get roughly 10 chances to take your child to see Santa, I don’t know many parents who would give up such a limited experience with their child.

I wouldn’t miss a trip to Santa with mine.

God, ours went multiple times with various relatives every year. It's not a once in a lifetime thing.

ThereIsSomethingWrongWithTheLeftFilange · Today 15:33

Jonasate · Today 15:02

Hell no. OP, don’t ask this. She’s waited years to have her children and will not want anybody other than herself to take her children to meet Santa. That’s a very special thing for parents to do with children at Christmas. If my in laws suggested this, I would be horrified.

Is it? Since when? I mean yes, its a nice thing to do with your children but special to the parents? I'm not sure about that.

Timeforachange26 · Today 15:33

aperolspritzbasicbitch · Today 15:29

I don’t think this is unusual?

you get roughly 10 chances to take your child to see Santa, I don’t know many parents who would give up such a limited experience with their child.

I wouldn’t miss a trip to Santa with mine.

10 chances? From memory there's at least 4 or 5 Santa's to visit every year. So no idea where your 10 chances are.

Only one of mine ever actually would enter the grotto. I'd have been perfectly happy for someone else to take them to wait for an hour for them to either not go in or stand mute. Can't see what's special about that tbh.

Any there was santa at nursery ( pic of DD1 crying near him) in shopping centres, and the xmas market in high street, etcetc

JudgeJ · Today 15:34

sprigatito · Today 11:21

This old chestnut again. Yes, women are often closer to their own mothers, and it’s women who give birth, so par for the course that their own mothers tend to be more involved than MILs in the perinatal period. It’s not a race, and MILs who whinge about not being first are ridiculous. It’s about what’s best for the birthing woman, not being “fair”. Being told the following morning is in no way remarkable for a close relative who isn’t an actual birthing partner.

An old chestnut reply. Why did the hsband not phone his parent after the birth? Maybe he was just following orders!

aperolspritzbasicbitch · Today 15:35

Timeforachange26 · Today 15:33

10 chances? From memory there's at least 4 or 5 Santa's to visit every year. So no idea where your 10 chances are.

Only one of mine ever actually would enter the grotto. I'd have been perfectly happy for someone else to take them to wait for an hour for them to either not go in or stand mute. Can't see what's special about that tbh.

Any there was santa at nursery ( pic of DD1 crying near him) in shopping centres, and the xmas market in high street, etcetc

I’m getting my amount of chances from the fact that we don’t traipse around shopping centres visiting Santa after Santa. We do 1 a year.

Gloriia · Today 15:36

ThereIsSomethingWrongWithTheLeftFilange · Today 15:30

That was the whole point of her thread. To ask peoples opinions on whether or not she should ask her outright.

I'd be interested to hear if anyone has ever been snubbed/treated coldly by someone then asked them why, to have them say 'oh well <insert reason>' and the whole thing was resolved.

It just does not happen.

This dil has fulltime staff, her parents are loaded. She's possibly entitled and arrogant and if has decided she doesn't like her mil that's it.

The dh should step up and take the kids to see his dm alone.

Holeymoley28 · Today 15:48

Gloriia · Today 15:36

I'd be interested to hear if anyone has ever been snubbed/treated coldly by someone then asked them why, to have them say 'oh well <insert reason>' and the whole thing was resolved.

It just does not happen.

This dil has fulltime staff, her parents are loaded. She's possibly entitled and arrogant and if has decided she doesn't like her mil that's it.

The dh should step up and take the kids to see his dm alone.

Fair comment.

If my mil asked me why I haven’t warmed to her I can hardly go well over the years I feel you’ve acted like a twat to me, your rude and constantly nit picking and just can’t help but open your bloody mouth all the bloody time and your nosey as shit even the children hide when you visit and with them all added together I just cnba with anything more than cordial.

I don’t think it would go down well. She hasn’t done anything huge as such but lots of things adding up to a oh just fuck off shut up and leave me alone mind set.

saraclara · Today 16:02

Credittocress · Today 11:12

But quite often when we are doing something we like it doesn’t require as much energy and we can muster some enthusiasm. If you’re already tired from a 4 year old and a baby having to make small talk and entertain someone else is draining.

Except she can manage it with everyone else.

phoenixrosehere · Today 16:03

Gloriia · Today 15:30

It's hardly going behind her back to ask her own dc what they think? They'll be best placed to have theories and the op can go from there.
If she asks her she'll deny and gaslight, it's what badly behaved people do.

You know OP’s DIL personally?

You don’t know if she will or not.

OP asking will tell her more than saying nothing at all or asking others what is going on in her DIL’s head.

BoredZelda · Today 16:04

TheBlueKoala · Today 10:59

Sounds like she feels superior to you. You did mention she comes from wealth and you don't. The fact that you mentioned this shows that you had some thoughts about this as well.

Does it? Or does is simply sound like @ConfusedGranS feels inferior. Have you always had a chip on your shoulder about being the poor relations?

Differentforgirls · Today 16:05

PinkArt · Today 14:03

If you think there's a specific issue between her & you then that's potentailly worth talking about BUT you have to separate that out from some of the other things you've mentioned,

They have a four-bedroom house, and there’s a spare bedroom, but we’ve never been invited to stay.

I also feel that we’re not really encouraged to have much involvement with the children. We’ve offered to babysit, but they’ve never taken us up on it.

These are things to address with your son, if they needed addressing, not your DIL. It's worth considering if you're sending the wifework her way & if that could be at the root of it all.

Wife work? It’s 2026!

BoredZelda · Today 16:09

saraclara · Today 16:02

Except she can manage it with everyone else.

We don’t know that. We know she manages it when there is a larger group, which IME tends only to happen when hosting a party or get together. We don’t know how she is 1 on 1.

When MIL visits. she spends time with my husband and daughter. I am usually dotting about either working or sorting stuff in the house, sorting the dogs etc. It isn’t me being cold, it’s that these things need doing and if the others aren’t doing them because they are with her, then it falls on me. I’d be a different person if I had a houseful.

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