Shocked that no one helped the girl on the train

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14 year old SA in trained

I am being unreasonable in think people need to stop being so absorbed on their phones whilst out in public. It seems no one helpped this child whilst she was being raped because they were too busy on their phones.

Terrible that our own men are raping women. All the more reason to stop others coming, isn’t it?

No point have 100 British rapists and then welcoming other foreign nationals to join them.

What about the thousands of British men that go to south east Asia to rape and abuse ? Should we keep them here?

Not even remotely relevant. Keep trying sweetie.

I actually know a young woman who has moved from England to Italy (and yes after Brexit) and absolutely loves her life there. She's been all round, she went for studies, loved it and now has a job there and absolutely loves Italy and the life she now has.

It's disgusting and horrific.. let's imprison them?

Are you kidding me? You’re clearly making up things now.

Since the age of 12 or so I’ve been harassed and abused by men in Uk - and I’ve never worn a crop top!

Violence against women and girls is endemic, systemic and a threat to society on the same scale as terrorism in the U.K.!!!

Source: https://news.met.police.uk/news/tackling-violence-against-women-and-girls-will-require-the-whole-system-to-step-up-486419

Good for her. I enjoy everything about Italy except for the sexism and harassment which is very, very real.

eg: The document summarizes findings from a report on street harassment experiences of women in Rome, Italy. It finds that the vast majority (79%) of Italian women experience their first instance of street harassment before age 17, with over half experiencing groping or fondling in the past year. www.slideshare.net/slideshow/italian-women-street-harassment/129837933

I mean yes they are .but they are committing a major sin (which I've said multiple times). What are you going on about?

Yes absolutely

How not relevant, sweetheart?

Ok, you’re not quite keeping up with the conversation clearly. Go back and read the posts

Thread title: Shocked that no one helped the girl on the train.

Got a real thing for sweaty British sex pests in Thailand havent you.

yes they sicken me like all men who abuse women and children

Oh this. But then there's a paper of convictions and still elevated rates.

Couse I'm keeping up. I've addressed everything

VAWG exists in the UK but it is less than the levels in Afghanistan, Somalia and Sudan

Yes let’s compare U.K. to some of the poorest, most deprived countries in the world

Ridiculous comparison

and it doesn’t simply ‘exist’ in the U.K.
Read the Met police link I shared so you understand the gravity

Your comments are disrespectful to the harm that women and girls face in this county

She completely loves her life and feels very very safe and finds the local Italians to be very helpful.

I'm not gonna say there's no issues but Italy is a better place to be than the third world.

Both can have problems. The data show they are not the same problems at the same scale.

We’d all starve to death. but yeah, why not.

I am comparing them. VAWG in those nations vastly exceeds what we have in the UK (which is still an issue).

Do you deny this basic fact?

There needs to be a lot more integration work done with migrants whose native culture is dissimilar to our own, especially with respect to attitudes to women and girls, violence and consent.

Unfortunately, a frightening number of our home-grown men and boys need this too. I believe that pornography and the manosphere have a lot to answer for.

Yes totally agree with both comments.

What does free food (or lack thereof) have to do with being a rapist? What does having ID have to do with being a rapist?
The pp said that foreign rapists shouldn’t be here, I was pointing out that of the millions of tourists and workers who come into/through the U.K. many of them are also rapists. So if the issue is foreign rapists, then we shouldn’t let any foreigners in in any capacity and then we get no foreign rapes.sorted.

You can allow tourism and immigration but you can vet and have restrictions and checks. You can have cap on immigration and well and have restrictions depending on country of origin

The damage that rapists and abusers do to their victims is the same wherever they abusers come from.

Racism and migration issues are red herrings. Pulling up our drawbridge isn't going to save us from our home-grown rapists and abusers, is it?

Violent pornography and the manosphere have a lot to answer for and we need to do more as a society to counter that.

We need to put more into screening and educating migrants regarding our cultural attitudes to women, violence and consent.

We need to do the same with our homegrown predatory males too. Schools have a role to play with boys, as well as Police and the courts who need to root out and come down hard on domestic abusers, flashers, upskirters and the like, take them out of our houses, off our streets and re-educate them at His Majesty's pleasure.

Let's focus on how society can remove the threat of sexual violence and how we as individuals might support someone in an abusive situation.