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Friend bringing DD on lunch date.

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BeTwinklyOliveNewt · Today 07:34

My good friend is back from overseas for a week to see her family. She comes periodically. Her parents live close to me and this time she has brought her DD 16.
we arranged a while ago to spend the day together this week, I’m off work. We were looking at different things to do. With the weather we decided a nice lunch out in country and maybe a walk if dry. Then she tells me she is bringing her DD16.
I dotn know if this is just me but we all know we can’t say what we want or discuss what we want round our kids. I wouldn’t think of asking my kids (same age) on girls date.
is this just me or do other people find it strange ???
her DD hasn’t seen the grandparents for a while so wondering why she doesn’t want to spend time with them ?
maybe its me but it’s put a dampener on it.
AIBU ???

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Mamalasira · Today 15:40

Ashhh56 · Today 15:39

Talking about sucking up seeing her friend this time for bringing her daughter just comes across as harsh to me. If her daughter isn't welcome OP should just suck it up and tell her so that her friend can decide if she still wants to meet, instead of starting a thread on here surely? 🤷‍♀️

Right. I just think it's about a woman wanting to catch up with a mate. She doesn't want to sit and watch a teenager scrolling.

Mamalasira · Today 15:40

User451278 · Today 15:39

Maybe it’s the friend’s way of avoiding listening to the OP talk A LOT about money.

The cost of lunch, the holiday, flights…. the poor friend is probably needs some light relief so could be dragging her unwilling daughter along!!

Does she talk about money?

User451278 · Today 15:42

Mamalasira · Today 15:40

Does she talk about money?

Yes. It’s in her posts. Money is mentioned A LOT.

Lexy2345 · Today 15:52

I'm joining the small yet vocal minority on this thread who can't see the problem with the daughter joining them for lunch, she's 16 not 6. What is so deeply personal about discussing future holiday plans ffs?

LostInTheDream · Today 15:57

I think it's a bit weird from thepersoective that it's dictated the activity. Like DD won't like a spa day, well DD doesn't actually have to come.🤷‍♀️

From the DDs perspective, if she likes you then she may like the idea of being included. Lots of 16yo girls are very much observing grown up women and how they act together and find this a nice safe intro to watch. I don't believe boys do this to the same extent, though with some of the make banter that goes on then perhaps they do. How are her DDs relationships with her peers? Is it possible she might not be having a great time? She won't get that this means certain topics are off the table. Your friend may not mind some of these topic being in front of her DD

You could ask your friend if her DD is ok and say that you wondered as hanging out with 2 much older women is not always a 16yo's cup of tea.

penguinineden · Today 15:57

Idayatatime · Today 13:29

So now people shouldn't have the audacity to be proud of their children & want friends to spend time with them & witness their progress as teenagers as opposed to young children. The mind boggles with some of the attitudes on this thread to young people.

It was more you saying that the OP resented the fact she had a daughter and wanted to “show her off” Confused

I wasn’t keen on either of those points
tbh, and also have no idea where you have plucked this “resentment” from

DraigCymraeg · Today 16:02

Mamalasira · Today 15:22

Why does she have to sit with them and scroll on her phone? Why can't she do that at her grandparents, or look at some shops or go to a Costa? What 16 year old wants to hang out with Mum and Mum's friend?
Let the women have a catch up.

Here we go, I knew this would happen.
Imagine your Mother's 'friend' making it obvious you are not welcome. A grown-up behaving like an ignorant so-and-so instead of being an adult.

fortysomethingg · Today 16:13

User451278 · Today 15:42

Yes. It’s in her posts. Money is mentioned A LOT.

I agree. It reads a little ‘what if there’s less focus on me and all the me things I want to talk about’?

if she’s invited her 16 year old. She obviously enjoys her social company and conversation and assumes her ‘Friend’ would too.

Gloriia · Today 16:15

'For example we wanted to look at our next girls holiday with friends but this won’t be suitable discussing flights hotels prices etc in front of a child'

Bit boring for a 16yr old granted but not sure if isn't 'suitable'.

Anyway you said you'll go along with it this time but as you aren't keen just be clear when you say bye that you throw in a 'just us next time yes?' And see if she bothers arranging a future catch up. The problem might solve itself.

Kevinbaconsrealwife · Today 16:16

zoeslim · Today 07:55

Would not appeal to me at all

Me neither, why do people do this ? X that last bit is rhetorical….i do know why people bring their kids x

Mamalasira · Today 16:19

DraigCymraeg · Today 16:02

Here we go, I knew this would happen.
Imagine your Mother's 'friend' making it obvious you are not welcome. A grown-up behaving like an ignorant so-and-so instead of being an adult.

What? Why would a teenager assume they're invited everywhere, particularly to an adults catch up? I think it's fine to get a 16 year old used to being independent and not necessarily hanging out with Mum and Mum's friend! I'm sure she'd rather do something she wanted to do!

Busybeemumm · Today 16:35

Catza · Today 08:43

It wouldn't bother me. I frequently meet up with friends and their teenage kids. They are fabulous and I haven't really found any topics we couldn't discuss in their presence. Unless you usually talk about "colouring".

It's not too late- just be a bit more forceful and say that you really want to hang out with just her. Make suggestions that her DD can stay with grandparents for a few hours.

FreddoEspresso · Today 16:36

OP, if I were your friend and privy to your thoughts on this and your resentment on how much you will have to pay for lunch, I would far prefer you cancel than be forced make public posts on a parenting forum.

The comments about not being able to speak about flights and hotels is bizarre.

Either cancel or change the meetup to a coffee instead.

DraigCymraeg · Today 16:38

Mamalasira · Today 16:19

What? Why would a teenager assume they're invited everywhere, particularly to an adults catch up? I think it's fine to get a 16 year old used to being independent and not necessarily hanging out with Mum and Mum's friend! I'm sure she'd rather do something she wanted to do!

So the child is at fault?
Where does it say that the 16 year old 'assumed' anything?
Cripes you are nasty.

Mamalasira · Today 16:43

DraigCymraeg · Today 16:38

So the child is at fault?
Where does it say that the 16 year old 'assumed' anything?
Cripes you are nasty.

Yet you're the one who's name calling! Extraordinary.
I'm not going to respond to being called names.
I don't do that. Not my vibe.

Lsquiggles · Today 16:48

Do you have a relationship with her daughter? I can't imagine wanting to tag along with my mom and her friend at that age!

CrazyMidget · Today 16:54

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MargotLeadbetterOBE · Today 16:55

What happened OP? Did you have a nice lunch?

Gloriia · Today 16:57

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Context is your friend here. We all knew exactly what the pp meant didn't we?

Mamalasira · Today 17:01

Lsquiggles · Today 16:48

Do you have a relationship with her daughter? I can't imagine wanting to tag along with my mom and her friend at that age!

Quite!

CrazyMidget · Today 17:05

God, people with kids can be such pains. Of course you can't discuss adult stuff when the teens are there. We see this a lot on MN. What on earth are they thinking?? As much as I like my friends' kids, my friendship is with my friend, not with their kids. Friendships are relationships among peers, and they need time among their own peer group to flourish. Then the kids can be there other times. A catch-up after not seeing each other for a long time is NOT the time to invite the kids along! It changes the dynamic completely, from peers meeting up to a family outing. You are suddenly very limited in what you can talk about. At my time of life, a popular topic is commiserating about stubborn, elderly parents - but you may not want to criticise the kids' grandparents in front of them, and lots of matters regarding the elders is not for little ears. Also the case for your own health; perhaps your thoughts about your kids' futures or their girlfriend/boyfriend - lots of things that you wouldn't want them to hear. You would hardly compare and contrast your experiences of perimenopause with someone else's bloody teen there! Honestly! Ruins all intimacy.

If you want to see her, though, you have no choice.

sittingonabeach · Today 17:06

BeTwinklyOliveNewt · Today 14:41

Inappropriate can be anything . Eg we wanted to discuss our next girls holiday do we need a 16 year old knowing flight cost hotel cost
who is coming, what we are doing. We don’t need to include kids in any of these sorts of conversations

Why would it be inappropriate to talk about a holiday in front of 16yo?

Chances are the teen will plug themselves into their phone and won’t hear half the conversation anyway

Awkwardisfunny · Today 17:08

BeTwinklyOliveNewt · Today 07:40

I know totally and she is only back a week and I have three days off so can’t rearrange but I really fed up that she said this to me yesterday so I can’t really!!!

So if you can't rearrange... Just tell her you were hoping for adult time and ask if alternative arrangements are an option, saying if not, happy to adjust the conversation to make it child-friendly. That might make her think about the dynamic too.

PinkyFlamingo · Today 17:10

BeTwinklyOliveNewt · Today 07:46

@Voltorb that’s exactly what I think as well. Surely she would enjoy being with grandparents for a bit. As it’s tomorrow I really feel I can’t change and she only dropped this on me last night. Originally we were going to a spa and she said then I don’t think my DD would like that. So I should have had the warning signs then maybe.

Of course you can cancel and tell her why!

carbuncleonapigsposterior · Today 17:12

My old school friend has done this several times, we go back years, without asking me, she invited her grown up daughter to a couple of our pre-arranged lunches. Once up in London, daughter was working near by, along she comes orders her lunch, waltzes off leaving her mother to pay for it. Another time a local lunch, sat down at a nice Cote restaurant, daughter in between jobs. Friend says,"X is shopping in the local town, but said she like to join us. Friend tells daughter, "I'd be delighted to see her" absolutely wasn't. Both times daughter gave us chapter and verse what was happening in her life, blah blah, friends she knew, what they were doing, colleagues, ex colleagues, don't know any of them, not particularly interested, she totally dominated the conversation, it was all about her, no chance of a quiet tete a tete with her mother, my friend. We arrange lunches specifically for a catch up. It massively pisses me off, I wouldn't dream of dragging my kids along, not that they would be available or want to if they were. I can't say anything because I know she'd be mightily offended.

So to answer your question, you most certainly are not being unreasonable.