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Friend bringing DD on lunch date.

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BeTwinklyOliveNewt · Today 07:34

My good friend is back from overseas for a week to see her family. She comes periodically. Her parents live close to me and this time she has brought her DD 16.
we arranged a while ago to spend the day together this week, I’m off work. We were looking at different things to do. With the weather we decided a nice lunch out in country and maybe a walk if dry. Then she tells me she is bringing her DD16.
I dotn know if this is just me but we all know we can’t say what we want or discuss what we want round our kids. I wouldn’t think of asking my kids (same age) on girls date.
is this just me or do other people find it strange ???
her DD hasn’t seen the grandparents for a while so wondering why she doesn’t want to spend time with them ?
maybe its me but it’s put a dampener on it.
AIBU ???

OP posts:
Finaly · Today 13:27

BeTwinklyOliveNewt · Today 11:58

Yes completely this! You can’t discuss what you want to on any level round your child. For example we wanted to look at our next girls holiday with friends but this won’t be suitable discussing flights hotels prices etc in front of a child. Thansk for understanding I’m thinking I might have to suck it up this time but not do it when she comes again 🤞🤞🤞🤞

Of course you can discuss these kind of things in front of her, she'll either be interested in your holiday plans and listen or will be bored and scroll on her phone.

Idayatatime · Today 13:29

BeTwinklyOliveNewt · Today 11:56

Thanks not alone then! X

So now people shouldn't have the audacity to be proud of their children & want friends to spend time with them & witness their progress as teenagers as opposed to young children. The mind boggles with some of the attitudes on this thread to young people.

CillianMurphyhasbeautifuleyes · Today 13:31

There are some very weird points of view on this thread! Wanting to see how the DD has developed into a young woman etc 🤦‍♀️🤣🤷‍♀️

OP. I wouldn’t go.
I wouldn’t be spending my hard-earned money on a lunch with someone else’s teen. (She’d probably expect you to go halfers!)

If you can’t bring yourself to explain why you don’t want to go, just make up an excuse.
A bad headache.
D&V.
A burst pipe.
Anything.

And then you can be better prepared for the next time!

I sometimes write down what I want to say in an awkward conversation. So that I can read it out. It helps!

Summer98 · Today 13:32

Nothing strange about it but if you’re unhappy then say something.

Mamalasira · Today 13:34

CillianMurphyhasbeautifuleyes · Today 13:31

There are some very weird points of view on this thread! Wanting to see how the DD has developed into a young woman etc 🤦‍♀️🤣🤷‍♀️

OP. I wouldn’t go.
I wouldn’t be spending my hard-earned money on a lunch with someone else’s teen. (She’d probably expect you to go halfers!)

If you can’t bring yourself to explain why you don’t want to go, just make up an excuse.
A bad headache.
D&V.
A burst pipe.
Anything.

And then you can be better prepared for the next time!

I sometimes write down what I want to say in an awkward conversation. So that I can read it out. It helps!

Yes, the development into a young woman was 🤔

Bollihobs · Today 13:34

Idayatatime · Today 10:16

Only a suggestion OP but could it be anything to with you resenting she has a daughter she understandably wants to show off to you, her development into a young adult etc & wants to share
this. Perhaps she even thinks you would be delighted to see her at this new stage. I think you have to look at the bigger picture if you feel so much negativity towards spending time with this young lady.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

I've seen some 'reaching' on MN but this takes the biscuit!

CillianMurphyhasbeautifuleyes · Today 13:36

Idayatatime · Today 13:29

So now people shouldn't have the audacity to be proud of their children & want friends to spend time with them & witness their progress as teenagers as opposed to young children. The mind boggles with some of the attitudes on this thread to young people.

That is a seriously weird POV.
I am extremely proud of my DC but I wouldn’t be taking them along to lunch if I was catching up with a friend from overseas.

I go out with DC2 a LOT; cinema/theatre/concert/dinner. (DC1 and DH are always invited!)

Sometimes, I’ll get an extra ticket for a friend and she knows my DC very well. They get on really well.

We’ll have a great time but I wouldn’t take him along to a chatty catch up. Although we’d all be perfectly comfortable with each other, it just wouldn’t be the same as just my friend and me.

Cherrytree86 · Today 13:38

Poppingby · Today 09:30

I'm quite interested in these replies and disagree with most of them. If I were visiting home for one week with my daughter I would expect my friend to understand that I had limited time, was making time for her, and had my reasons for bringing my daughter along. I'm not saying you're wrong to feel disappointed or want the time alone together, but if you tried to insist on it you'd really piss me off because I'd feel like you were only interested in seeing me on your terms and weren't bothered about my circumstances.

I can think of loads of reasons why I would want or need to bring my 16 year old (I have one) and I'd be quite offended that you weren't interested in catching up with them since presumably you rarely see them. It's just a different kind of meet up. Maybe not quite as satisfying to you but are you her friend or not? Are you only interested if you get the kind of meeting YOU want?

Edited

@Poppingby

what reasons?

Mamalasira · Today 13:40

Idayatatime · Today 13:29

So now people shouldn't have the audacity to be proud of their children & want friends to spend time with them & witness their progress as teenagers as opposed to young children. The mind boggles with some of the attitudes on this thread to young people.

I'm very proud of my adult DC. However, when they were teenagers they were quite independent and didn't really want to hang out with me and a friend if we were meeting up for coffee/lunch. They tended to prefer their own age group unless we were going out en famille.

Idayatatime · Today 13:40

CillianMurphyhasbeautifuleyes · Today 13:31

There are some very weird points of view on this thread! Wanting to see how the DD has developed into a young woman etc 🤦‍♀️🤣🤷‍♀️

OP. I wouldn’t go.
I wouldn’t be spending my hard-earned money on a lunch with someone else’s teen. (She’d probably expect you to go halfers!)

If you can’t bring yourself to explain why you don’t want to go, just make up an excuse.
A bad headache.
D&V.
A burst pipe.
Anything.

And then you can be better prepared for the next time!

I sometimes write down what I want to say in an awkward conversation. So that I can read it out. It helps!

Typical example of making up your own narrative,either that or not smart enough to get the point. Thankfully the posters who added the thumbs up are not so crass.

sugarapplelane · Today 13:41

FFS! All this Drayton’s of nothing. There’s a really simple solution to this. Just speak to your friend. Are you scared of her?

Weewah · Today 13:47

sugarapplelane · Today 13:41

FFS! All this Drayton’s of nothing. There’s a really simple solution to this. Just speak to your friend. Are you scared of her?

Exactly! I mean, these threads kill me. I get that it’s an ‘indirect’ culture, but you had an empire, for heaven’s sake.

It’s not complicated. Just say you’d prefer to catch up without your fruebd’s daughter. The world won’t end.

phoenixrosehere · Today 13:48

Mamalasira · Today 13:07

I wonder if some teenage girls are a bit more clingy now? Is she not able to do anything on her own?

Or could be the mother.

My own mother would make me go with her when I was a teen when I rather be at home by myself where I could either read, watch tv, or play computer games.

Instead, I would be sitting there reading a book instead while her and a friend talked.

I figured it was her way of killing two birds with one stone, say she spent ‘time’ with me and spent time with a friend.

Charlenedickens · Today 13:51

Mamalasira · Today 13:20

It's not about inappropriate stuff. It's about a woman wanting to meet up with her friend without the DD tagging along.

The op has said several stuff she’s inappropriate stuff to discuss in front of a kid, if you feel she doesn’t correct her not me,

Smeegall · Today 14:08

Tulipsriver · Today 07:43

If it was a local friend I would agree with you, but she's effectively on holiday with her daughter so I can kind of see why she'd assume she could bring her.

This! I think it would be more odd if she was to leave her daughter on her own in a foreign country...?

CillianMurphyhasbeautifuleyes · Today 14:09

Idayatatime · Today 13:40

Typical example of making up your own narrative,either that or not smart enough to get the point. Thankfully the posters who added the thumbs up are not so crass.

🤣
The only thing that’s crass here is YOU and your weird attitude.
I’m fond of my friends’ DC and I’d be happy for them to come along on certain outings, e.g. cinema etc.

I’ve no burning desire to go for a catch up lunch with them.
I’d find it weird if they wanted to come along.

As a 16 year old, I got on well with my mum’s friends and my friends’ mums.
It wouldn’t have occurred to me in a million years to go for lunch with them.

I had my own friends and I was perfectly capable of entertaining myself.

Mamalasira · Today 14:10

Smeegall · Today 14:08

This! I think it would be more odd if she was to leave her daughter on her own in a foreign country...?

It's not a foreign country. They live overseas, but are back visiting family.

Sassylovesbooks · Today 14:14

Comeondoreen · Today 08:04

I’m confused. Surely it was clear from the point that you made arrangements other than the spa that her daughter was coming? It wasn’t dropped on you last night at all. There is no other way to interpret “let’s not go to the spa as my daughter won’t like it” other than that her daughter was coming too. It wasn’t a “warning sign”, it was literally an explicit statement.

She obviously thought it was clear from the offset that her daughter would be with her.

I agree with you that I wouldn’t be particularly pleased, but I’m not sure why you’re surprised.

I agree with this. Your friend on your suggestion of a spa day, said 'Oh no my daughter wouldn't like it'. From that statement alone, it's obvious that your friend is bringing her daughter. You didn't pick up on that statement, only thinking it was an odd one to make! It wasn't, if your friend intended to bring her daughter from the start! You missed the obvious. The fact her daughter is coming, wasn't dropped on you at the last minute at all. You finally understood at the last minute!

You have two choices: 1. Suck it up, and make the best of the situation or 2. Be honest with your friend, and say you'd prefer an adult only day out.

Your friend is on holiday, so rearranging isn't possible. You also need to be aware that if you tell your friend you want an adults only day out, that she pulls the plug on seeing you full stop.

PussyGaylore · Today 14:31

I have a friend who does this. She thinks it perfectly ok to bring her teenage daughter on a night out with a group of mid fifties women! When I was a teenager I was out clubbing or hanging out with friends - I cannot imagine ever wanting to hang out with my mums friends . . .
Maybe ask if you can reschedule so it’s just you 2?

sugarapplelane · Today 14:36

Weewah · Today 13:47

Exactly! I mean, these threads kill me. I get that it’s an ‘indirect’ culture, but you had an empire, for heaven’s sake.

It’s not complicated. Just say you’d prefer to catch up without your fruebd’s daughter. The world won’t end.

Glad you knew what I was trying to say even though I made a massive typo 😂

BeTwinklyOliveNewt · Today 14:37

Newyearawaits · Today 12:08

I can see both sides of the coin but I truly understand why you would want to spend time time alone with your friend.
I treasure those occasions.

Exactly 🤞🥰

OP posts:
BeTwinklyOliveNewt · Today 14:37

PussyGaylore · Today 14:31

I have a friend who does this. She thinks it perfectly ok to bring her teenage daughter on a night out with a group of mid fifties women! When I was a teenager I was out clubbing or hanging out with friends - I cannot imagine ever wanting to hang out with my mums friends . . .
Maybe ask if you can reschedule so it’s just you 2?

Oh god that’s worse than this! I wouldn’t like it on a night out!!

OP posts:
BeTwinklyOliveNewt · Today 14:39

Sassylovesbooks · Today 14:14

I agree with this. Your friend on your suggestion of a spa day, said 'Oh no my daughter wouldn't like it'. From that statement alone, it's obvious that your friend is bringing her daughter. You didn't pick up on that statement, only thinking it was an odd one to make! It wasn't, if your friend intended to bring her daughter from the start! You missed the obvious. The fact her daughter is coming, wasn't dropped on you at the last minute at all. You finally understood at the last minute!

You have two choices: 1. Suck it up, and make the best of the situation or 2. Be honest with your friend, and say you'd prefer an adult only day out.

Your friend is on holiday, so rearranging isn't possible. You also need to be aware that if you tell your friend you want an adults only day out, that she pulls the plug on seeing you full stop.

Suck it up is what’s it going to have to be I think as no way do I want to upset / offend her . Just more aware if this happens again.

OP posts:
BeTwinklyOliveNewt · Today 14:41

Charlenedickens · Today 13:51

The op has said several stuff she’s inappropriate stuff to discuss in front of a kid, if you feel she doesn’t correct her not me,

Inappropriate can be anything . Eg we wanted to discuss our next girls holiday do we need a 16 year old knowing flight cost hotel cost
who is coming, what we are doing. We don’t need to include kids in any of these sorts of conversations

OP posts:
Mamalasira · Today 14:42

PussyGaylore · Today 14:31

I have a friend who does this. She thinks it perfectly ok to bring her teenage daughter on a night out with a group of mid fifties women! When I was a teenager I was out clubbing or hanging out with friends - I cannot imagine ever wanting to hang out with my mums friends . . .
Maybe ask if you can reschedule so it’s just you 2?

God! I'd rather have stayed in and watched TV! What's going on?!

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