Jewish people have to take security very seriously in schools here.

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c623d7z1rxg5o

Antisemitism here in the UK is appalling.

I was once a 'Grren' no more due to the hatred Antisemitism in the party.

Cultural appropriation or crosplay at being a terrorist

Either way very inappropriate and the fact they don't see it is staggering. Personally I think society should treat it the same as we do other types of cultural appropriation. I don't just mean white people doing this either.

The only thing I can see that possibly was contentious in my deleted comment was that the language I used in the opening paragraph was saying to the poster that we are discussing Jewish children’s safety and not her feelings, or something. I mean, if that goes against talk guidelines then I’ll rephrase it and repost it. But I have a feeling that was a wee smokescreen to get the rest of it deleted…
Let’s see what they reply to my email regarding this.

The keffiya is actually from Iraq. Arafat started wearing one when he created Palestinian identity and changed the flag in the 1960’s.

What, like my former primary school has to pretend it’s not there, unlike every other school in the UK? It like my synagogue, which has also taken down its signboard, unlike every other place of worship in the UK?

Why should we have to hide?

When your (anybody’s) child is bullied in the corridor at school, do you tell them to avoid the corridor? Or do you expect the school to step up and stop the bullies?

Absolutely! It's total victim blaming.
"Your skirt is too short" all over again.

I remember learning about the holocaust at school and thinking how was this allowed to happen. It scares me that now I can see how. Not only the Jewish community but anyone who's different in any way ( lgbt disability etc)
❤️ to the Jewish community

Yes; it was a perfectly reasonable response to a poster who derailed the thread by posting a dozen times, stubbornly insisting on taking offence because they had got the wrong end of the stick despite repeated careful and patient explanations. I mean it could have gone on for ever if you hadn't finally seized the bull by the horns, as it were!

During COVID this sort of online ranting just made you shrug at anti-vaxxers etc, but there is more at stake here - the insidious rise of fascism in the UK, a wolf in sheep's clothing.

The thing is, the antisemitism of the holocaust era didn't cease to exist once the war was over. All of those antisemites didn't become pro-semites, so it's always been there, bubbling away, and now they have a "cause" to nail their hatred to, and they have grasped the opportunity with both hands - they get to openly hate Jews and be "on the right side of history" (if they're on the left or basically just hard of thinking).

I was in Vienna recently, where the only place I witnessed any kind of security, apart from the airport, was outside the Jewish museum, where there were armed guards. I also visited the Sigmund Freud museum. I'm ashamed to say I didn't know how much his family had suffered at the hands of the nazis. Something I read there gave me pause for thought - so many wealthy, industrious and accomplished Jews fled Germany and Austria (they were lucky ones - they had money and contacts). When the war was over, they were not encouraged to return - antisemitism was still rife. Neither was Freud's legacy as the father of psychoanalysis recognised until the 1970s, and that was largely due to pressure from the USA, because of deep post-war ambivalence in Austria toward his Jewish-rooted legacy.

What is happening now, or rather, being allowed to happen, is shocking but sadly not surprising.

We do it anyway, out of self-protection. The notion that we should do it, that it’s a reasonable option to consider in order to live as acceptable members of society, frustrates me.

The antisemitism of the Holocaust era did not come out of nothing. The Nazis did not invent Jew-hatred. They tapped into existing prejudices and histories of suspicion, of blaming Jews for everything and anything, of dehumanising Jews, of killing Jews with impunity.

Anti-Semitism has bubbled under the surface and on the surface of civilisation’ for nearly 2000 years. For most of the time it had no name. It just was. It was only labelled Anti-Semitism in the 19th century. By an anti-Semite reacting against the Enlightenment which implied that Jews might be worthy of consideration as equal human beings. The respectable prejudice.

This is why I don’t understand the “acceptance” that Israel is now a “reason” to hate Jews - anyone with a brain can see that it’s just another route to use Jews as a scapegoat.. I genuinely believe it’s part of a wider and more sinister objective - but MN isn’t the forum to openly discuss this.

It's not a "reason" is it, because there's no reason.
It's just another excuse.

Painful to read. These are British school children!

Hence the quote marks - I agree with you.

True! Just agreeing.

I think perhaps one reason people who come out with antisemitic crap say "Oh, but I have nothing against Jewish people" is that for most people it's not about hating Jews as such, it's just not actually giving a fuck about such a tiny minority of the UK population. Most people probably don't even think about it, or notice Jewish people particularly.

People just get all wrapped up in the latest craze - in 1930s Germany, it was the seductive illusion of some kind of mythical "Aryan race"; now, it's the fashion for wearing keffiyehs and chanting slogans to prove you're "on the right side of history."

Radical Islamists, however, want to see the world rid of Jews (to start off with) by any means possible. They're pulling the strings here, and too many people are blind to it despite them having made their intentions perfectly clear.

Please don't jump on the inclusion of the letters "I-S-L-A-M" in this post. I have deliberately specified radical to avoid any misunderstanding here; I am not talking about the Muslim faith.