To be absolutely fed up with male violence

[Cicchetti]

Dr Hannah Terry. Another woman murdered.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx4g1z2ydqp4o

The point of the thread is asking if there are any. It sounds quite victim blaming to suggest every women hurt or killed by a partner was at fault for picking badly. We all know men who lie and cheat to get what they want at any cost, so the onus should be on men to call each other out and lift their gender in the process.

Please let me know when you have those details. Thanks.

But according to mumsnet there's no such thing.
Maybe we hope our daughters turn out to be lesbian or asexual or that they just never leave the house or something...

I think more people than who care to admit, love only themselves.

There are a lot of people out there, probably more men than women, who simply don’t love their kids. Or wife. Or anyone around them. It’s not personal to the people, they just don’t feel that true affection and love. Which makes violence much easier for them.

We like to think that love conquers all. But what even is love? People say it after weeks of being together, it’s an expression, I don’t think it always reflects deep respect and affection, sadly.

You let me know when you have your law degree first mate.

Bit silly but we can demonstrate through our actions- that out girls don’t have to tolerate bullshit and misogyny, we can educate them on where to get help, to talk, to not stay silent and to protect their friends

But it’s those raising boys , including fathers, to educate their boys - violence isn’t women’s problem to solve

Do you really think those who are in abusive relationships went into them thinking anything other than the man was a “good” man? So much victim blaming. Often the most horrific of abusers are the ones who are charming and tick every green flag box to begin with.

I think it’s a lot to do with entitlement. If you bring up your child with boundaries, so he doesn’t think the world owes him and that he has to consider others I think you’re well down the right path. The ones that end up in trouble almost always have parents who try and get them off, say she led him on and/or say what a lovely boy he is. How many years have those parents been making excuses for them.

Why are men great till they gotta be great …

they are all ‘good men’ till they’re not

7 men raped an unconscious woman for 7 hours - 50 good men knew and did nothing

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj20v6qz14q1o

Wasn’t aware that a law degree was required to comment on public criminal cases. In any case, is that the same law that lets many pedophiles and other violent criminals off every year?

They were probably on all here typing NAMALT comments like a certain poster...

We shouldn’t victim blame, it truly can happy to anyone.

But there are often signs that people either don’t see or ignore. Low confidence, raised in an abusive home, innocently minded, financially or emotionally dependent, children etc - so many reasons why women may choose to downplay signs until you can’t deny them anymore, but can’t get out safely.

Girls need to be given the confidence to trust their instincts, to break up a relationship that doesn’t work for them (whatever the reason), and to demand a certain level of treatment and behaviour from their spouse.

Number one rule is to never stay if someone has hit you, even once. Never give a second chance. Never doubt yourself.

https://www.who.int/news/item/19-11-2025-lifetime-toll--840-million-women-faced-partner-or-sexual-violence

840million - and that's an underestimate. Many don't report.

How many of those men are murdered by women? I’ll take a wild guess that it’s a very small percentage! It’s also not the subject of this thread!

I don't tolerate bullshit or misogyny, ever. Didn't stop me from getting raped though.

Do you know what else women and girls need - to be believed, to be treated by the law as victims of crime, for those crimes to be prosecuted, to know they will get justice

not to have the police dismiss them, start group chats about them, share photos of their injuries or dead bodies with vile comments, not have police officers murder them …

it’s not a women problem

No - and it won’t - because men rape - I’m in no way suggesting you can prevent rape by educating women!!!

I was 4 - not even old enough to understand how much men hate us - but the quote was in response to how to help girls - pretending it’s not all men and that life’s is fine if you choose the right one or are a lesbian isn’t going to help either

Of course it is and they've co-opted some women too.🙄 Just look at the amount of NAMALT, Not my Nigel, victim blaming and apologist posts on this thread. A thread about the ever present risk to women and children from MEN!😡

I am heartened by the poll.❤️

YADNBU @Cicchetti.

It's approx 3-5% of the male population that commit violent crimes so definitely not all men

Yes definitely, I’m sickened by the low conviction rates and piss poor sentences. It’s humiliating and degrading.

But unfortunately at that stage it’s often too late too, the abuse is normally pretty bad by the time people call the police.

One hit or push is one too many.

Are you basing that on conviction rates? If so, it’s highly underestimated.

Most victims don’t report. Most of those who report don’t get a conviction.

Sadly, abuse is often hidden. As they say, you don’t know what goes on behind closed doors.

Excuse after excuse made for the piss poor behaviour of men. It starts at school violent children in mainstream schools assaulting others, throwing books, pens or furniture at others. Little children having to deal with abuse and assault every single day, behaviour that would not be tolerated in the Heads office or the offices of our M.Ps or other adults but seemingly acceptable in a classroom.
Parents allow unchecked access to the internet for children. As long as the children are quiet the parents don't give fuck what they are watching. Primary school children with their own smart phones bought by feckless parents. Children watching deprived porn and extreme violence because the parents are too busy scrolling on their own phones to bother monitoring what their children are watching.
Then we have Hollywood churning out violent films one after the other. Yet they are staple viewing in many households. Closely followed by video games.
Bloody casual violence everywhere and too many adults allow it.

Take your whataboutery and shove it where the sun doesn't shine.

We are talking about male violence against women and girls here

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