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SmallDFartyCarNRG · 07/10/2026 17:08

NoisyBrickDog · 07/10/2026 17:04

She had very bad PTSD
I wonder if this was caused by years of abuse....?

And mental health issues as it says clearly in the article - she wasn't fit to stand trial so presumably hospitalised. I would wager it wasn't her gun anyway...

NoisyBrickDog · 07/10/2026 17:08

I think we still have 3 women a day being murdered in the UK though.

AppleKatie · 07/10/2026 17:08

MrsTerryPratchett · 06/10/2026 20:23

There are several 'types' of family killers. It makes for a dreadful rabbit hole.

What it boils down to in many cases is men vastly overestimating their worth in the world while underestimating women's.

This

SmallDFartyCarNRG · 07/10/2026 17:10

Hiredgun · 07/10/2026 17:07

Perhaps but it’s speculation and not a justification. Imagine if a man claimed mental abuse as a reason for killing a woman.

Edited

They do and often get 15 years for it because it is manslaughter rather than murder, also they get less time than a stranger would murdering their wife as long as it is in the home. Nice.

jeaux90 · 07/10/2026 17:11

FFS man, look at the prison population and the ONS stats eg over 95% of sexual assaults are committed by males but no, you want to focus on the “what about these women”….

Hiredgun · 07/10/2026 17:12

SmallDFartyCarNRG · 07/10/2026 17:10

They do and often get 15 years for it because it is manslaughter rather than murder, also they get less time than a stranger would murdering their wife as long as it is in the home. Nice.

But this woman hasn’t even got a reduced sentence. Essentially off Scot free pardon the pun.

likelysuspect · 07/10/2026 17:12

HobGobblynne · 07/10/2026 13:16

There's actually more to this than you'd think at first read. It's a diabolical tragedy, but not quite as straightforward as evil partner/domestic violence

Tell us then?

Hiredgun · 07/10/2026 17:14

jeaux90 · 07/10/2026 17:11

FFS man, look at the prison population and the ONS stats eg over 95% of sexual assaults are committed by males but no, you want to focus on the “what about these women”….

I stated in my post that the vast majority of violence is committed by men. That’s beyond question although it’s a tiny minority of men.

Im merely pointing out that there’s an even smaller minority of women who also commit horrendous crimes.

OneoftheWeddingPeople · 07/10/2026 17:15

There are many boy mums doing a brilliant job. The majority of lads dd knows are decent. Her and her friends were seriously harassed by older foreign men on holiday and ALL the English lads were horrified and ensured they got back to their hotel safely.

SmallDFartyCarNRG · 07/10/2026 17:15

Hiredgun · 07/10/2026 17:14

I stated in my post that the vast majority of violence is committed by men. That’s beyond question although it’s a tiny minority of men.

Im merely pointing out that there’s an even smaller minority of women who also commit horrendous crimes.

You are assuming that this woman was fit for trial, which she was not, as it states in the article you yourself provided.

Duncantoldme2 · 07/10/2026 17:16

Hiredgun · 07/10/2026 17:14

I stated in my post that the vast majority of violence is committed by men. That’s beyond question although it’s a tiny minority of men.

Im merely pointing out that there’s an even smaller minority of women who also commit horrendous crimes.

It is not 'a tiny minority of men'.

If you want to talk about women committing crimes, start your own thread.

Hiredgun · 07/10/2026 17:19

SmallDFartyCarNRG · 07/10/2026 17:15

You are assuming that this woman was fit for trial, which she was not, as it states in the article you yourself provided.

I am not but simply pointing out that a woman has murdered a man in cold blood with a gun and has received no jail term.

That is a curious case.

Hiredgun · 07/10/2026 17:20

Duncantoldme2 · 07/10/2026 17:16

It is not 'a tiny minority of men'.

If you want to talk about women committing crimes, start your own thread.

Please tell me what percentage of men commit violent crimes?

Duncantoldme2 · 07/10/2026 17:21

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploitation_scandal

From the late 1980s until 2013, group-based child sexual exploitation affected an estimated 1,400 girls, generally from care home backgrounds, in the town of Rotherham, South Yorkshire, England. Between 1997 and 2013, girls were abused by grooming gangs predominantly consisting of men of Pakistani heritage.

Researcher Angie Heal, who was hired by local officials and warned them about child exploitation occurring between 2002 and 2007, has since described it as the "biggest child protection scandal in UK history". In July 2025, investigations were being carried out into allegations that police officers had also raped child victims.

Rotherham child sexual exploitation scandal - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploitation_scandal

Cheese55 · 07/10/2026 17:23

Naunet · 06/10/2026 19:04

I read a comment recently that said something like: Men are protectors, but they're protectors of other men, not women.

I think there's a lot of truth in that.

How can they be called protectors when we need protecting from them. I'd always run to a women to protect me.

SmallDFartyCarNRG · 07/10/2026 17:25

Hiredgun · 07/10/2026 17:19

I am not but simply pointing out that a woman has murdered a man in cold blood with a gun and has received no jail term.

That is a curious case.

I am assuming here you have no legal or medical background whatsoever or you'd not be posting as if this is some weird "gotcha" when anyone with a brain can see the difference between all of these few select cases and the mass rapes and the frequent murder of women by their violent partners an exes. We have an escalating femicide rate in this country, not the other way around.

Hiredgun · 07/10/2026 17:34

SmallDFartyCarNRG · 07/10/2026 17:25

I am assuming here you have no legal or medical background whatsoever or you'd not be posting as if this is some weird "gotcha" when anyone with a brain can see the difference between all of these few select cases and the mass rapes and the frequent murder of women by their violent partners an exes. We have an escalating femicide rate in this country, not the other way around.

Not a gotcha just stated a fact: a woman killed a man in cold blood with a gun and has received no jail time.

The details are curious and would be open to hearing more if you have those.

SmallDFartyCarNRG · 07/10/2026 17:39

Hiredgun · 07/10/2026 17:34

Not a gotcha just stated a fact: a woman killed a man in cold blood with a gun and has received no jail time.

The details are curious and would be open to hearing more if you have those.

Do you want to guess how many men escape justice because they commit suicide as well or would that figure be too much?
Or maybe how many men walk around freely because of delays and backlogs in the legal system thanks to all of the other crimes men commit?
Or how about how many men are also in secure psychiatric facilities for murder, because I assume you know that it isn't just women who have mental health issues and can't be tried?

Hiredgun · 07/10/2026 17:45

SmallDFartyCarNRG · 07/10/2026 17:39

Do you want to guess how many men escape justice because they commit suicide as well or would that figure be too much?
Or maybe how many men walk around freely because of delays and backlogs in the legal system thanks to all of the other crimes men commit?
Or how about how many men are also in secure psychiatric facilities for murder, because I assume you know that it isn't just women who have mental health issues and can't be tried?

Of course I’m aware of that which is why I stated the law is a joke.

I was asking about the case I referenced if you had more details? What is the mitigation? What is the mental health condition she already had prior to developing PTSD?

SmallDFartyCarNRG · 07/10/2026 17:47

Hiredgun · 07/10/2026 17:45

Of course I’m aware of that which is why I stated the law is a joke.

I was asking about the case I referenced if you had more details? What is the mitigation? What is the mental health condition she already had prior to developing PTSD?

I suggest you start your own thread. Maybe entitle it "I am a man and want to know why this woman has been put into a psychiatric hospital because I can't accept that she has mental health issues and want her to be like all of the heartless murdering men" and see what you get.

Abouteffingtime · 07/10/2026 17:48

Its a bit odd to use the words "in cold blood" in this case I think.

Today I have been in a conference from 9am to 4pm, relating to domestic abuse, donestic homicide, stalking, violent and sexual crimes.

Statistically, we all know wwomen are more likely to suffer DA at the hands of a man. Men also suffer DA, but lets not forget that al arge proportion of those who do, also suffer at the hands of men.

IsThePopeCatholic · 07/10/2026 17:49

We need to educate ourselves and our daughters on how to choose ‘good’ men.