To be absolutely fed up with male violence

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Dr Hannah Terry. Another woman murdered.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx4g1z2ydqp4o

2025 - Women killed by men

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cg5nelp5enpo

There are only 3350 women serving custodial sentences. Which is just 4% of the prison population. So I think to say there's not as many of them as men is something of an understatement!
Of these women around 50% are serving sentences for violent crime, compared with 72% of male prisoners. So a long way from your estimate of 99%.
So while 'blight on society' is subjective and you may include in that people who have broken the law but are not actually dangerous, I think that unless people are a danger to society, there are cheaper and more productive ways of dealing with them than custodial sentences. Regardless of their sex.

So, how would you deal with a persistent thief who who targets the same shop time & time again for her drug money - and has no intention of coming off drugs?

At some point jail is the only solution.

Or the shop goes out of business - which is not fair on the owners and their family.

The chief constable of Police Scotland has said up to 50 serving officers are suspended as they are investigated over allegations of violence against women and girls. This is first para from article in the Times. That is just Scotland. Fills you with hope doesn’t it? The people we look to, to protect us…..

I have never met a substance user who has 'no intention of coming off drugs' Never in a three decade career that has brought me into contact with multiple women in this position. Always they wish to get clean. Often they not able to do so, because addiction is driven by a complex mix of psychological, sociogical and biological factors, which are not always well understood, and rarely addressed in tandem to result in a good long term outcome.
There is strong evidence that custodial sentences not only result from addiction, because people think there's no other option, but also that they exacerbate the problem. If a woman has found it difficult to manage her life without addiction and criminal activity to support it, how much harder will it be for her to do so with a prison record holding her back?
There are more effective ways of preventing substance addicted women from being a problem to society than locking them up. However people intent on punishing behaviour rather than changing it tend to dismiss them as 'bleeding heart leftie nonsense' or some such, because their desire to punish outweighs their pragmaticism, and they want the emotional satisfaction of making these women suffer more than they want a workable solution.

As always the long term solution doesn't give the quick fix the right are looking for, which always ends up with them shoring up trouble for later.

I am also sick of it. Poor woman and the kids. Heartbreaking.

I’m 33 and I hope my generation raise our boys (I have a 1 year old son) to be kind, to be gentle, to stand up and say somethings wrong when it is even if it makes them the “outsider” referring to the recent case in America where that poor girl was sexually assaulted by multiple boys and advertised as “free pussy” in a group snapchat. I hope my son grows to be the man to protect a woman should she need it.

I have a 3 year old daughter and I want my daughter to be feel safe around your son and I want my son to make your daughters feel safe so as we are raising them, we have to do better. From a young age I will teach consent etc, I’ve already spoken to my 3 year old DD in simple terms. If somebody touches your private areas you scream, you fight, you shout and if anyone tells you to keep a secret from Mum or Dad, you come and tell us straight away, you will never be in any trouble with us kind of thing. If you’re lost, look for a family or a woman.

As somebody with a lovely and kind DH who is very respectful when it comes to women, I hope my son grows up to be like him and I hope my daughter finds a partner with a standard set on how to be treated as she sees the way he treats me and he is incredibly loving and kind to our children.

It’s a bloody terrifying world out there.

There needs to be far more accountability at all levels of abuse.

I was abused by my ex. This included physical abuse, financial abuse and coercive control. He strangled me at one point which means statistically he's 8x more likely to murder me. He also threatened me with a knife. He said he wanted to kill our kids.

Outcome via court.... unsupervised shared care. No protection for us at all despite being deemed high risk via MARAC. Services are all very neutral and careful to not be accused of being biased against men.

I noticed this with my ex too - social services seemed to be bending over backward in Court to say he "could be" a good father despite never even meeting him face to face (he kept cancelling) and only having 1 zoom call. He has never paid maintenance and has severe drug, alcohol and mental health issues. When they got to Court and met him they had a prepared speech to say he has capability to parent. They weren't prepared for his shouting and threats of violence at them while they stood up in Court, which managed to drown out their positive words. Kind of scuppered their rather thoughtful speech!

Yes but it shouldn't be the first solution.

We should be funding secure detox places

This was on another thread….

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy9neq9e7qqo

He shouldn't have been living there. No safeguarding was done. He had a background of being in prison.

She was pregnant by him. She knew his background and that he had issues
He should never have been living there.

Utterly horrifying. Nowhere is safe. Even the male doctors dismissing bleeding... No wonder that woman has left the Trust, I can only imagine she was treated like a pest for doing her job daily.

How can this happen in any setting where there are meant to be people alert and monitoring patients?

OMG that is horrific. That poor woman. No care at all, she must've been in hell in the 'hospital'.

I can see why many old people don't want to go into hospital in the first place.

Secure - as in that they are not allowed out of the premises until they have fully detoxed.

Isn't that basically a prison then.

Do you think Prisons are actually therapy centres or something?
Most prisoners come out with a better working knowledge of crime than before they went in and a drug addiction to feed on top!

Rehab just doesn't work, most of the time.

These men often kill the children as well. Men appear to see women and children as possessions which they're entitled to destroy. This happens so often that it's clear that it's a widespread male belief. They have no empathy and no self-control.

This poor woman was murdered, in a place where she should have been entirely safe.

It shows that hospitals have learned nothing about keeping vulnerable women and children safe, since the days of Jimmy Savile. That 'man' among many many crimes, actually abused sick children in their hospital beds. For that alone I hope he is being pitchforked in hell right now; as he suffered no consequences in his life thanks very largely to the protection he had from his (male) Establishment friends.

Not at all - I think prisons should be a place of punishment.

But should include non violent crimes as well. So, the persistent shoplifter who steals in order to fund their habit should not be treat as though they need therapy or a helping hand. They have probably ruined a good business and caused stress/anxiety to a hard working law abiding shop owner.

And I have known loads of druggies who insist that they won't to come off drugs - but don't really and make no effort to do so. They end up in the 40's & 50's still stealing and basically being a blight on society.

Stacey has been in my thoughts for months. Another woman let down by every service available. Then when he killed her. One female officer attended at the property alone, where her child was upstairs. Stacey had managed to call 999. One officer. Female.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvn06yl7kd01o

"The Border Telegraph, a local newspaper, reported that Sheriff Peter Paterson said at the time that the offence met the threshold for custody.
But he took into account the "complex family dynamic" and that the victim was opposed to a non-harassment order being imposed."
It is no wonder women don't report. They have to be killed before they put these men away.

Exactly. The transcript is available, he was always going to do that. He could not have made it clearer. He went home and told his mum what he had done.

One officer is normally all that's available at the time.
And are you saying because she is female then she will be useless?