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ChoppyWalters · 08/10/2026 09:55

I think they need to build more prison space. Nothing fancy. Shipping containers would do like box parks, but multistory. No, I don’t particularly care about their environment, or their rehabilitation, I just want them put in there, throw some raw meat in every day and treat them like the beasts they behave like. Give them a bit of yard time and lots of alone time to think about about how they have seriously fucked up their lives and others.

Put the long timers in there. Give out proper sentencing for violent crimes and child abusers.

Put the rest of the people who blight society in the vacated spaces of the others who are now in shipping containers. Give the domestic abusers and such like proper robust sentencing. Repeat offenders of serious crimes, show them to a shipping containers, theirs for life.

All sounds a big hardcore, but the rest of us, especially the vulnerable, tiptoe through life avoiding situations, and places, and darkness because we are scared of being victims. We are the ones curtailing our lives now, having to put ourselves in prisons to avoid lowlives. Except now, the situations where we have to be on guard grows ever more because the perpetrators are more brazen, because they know justice is soft and women’s lives are cheap now.

Sick of it.

SmallDFartyCarNRG · 08/10/2026 10:08

Duncantoldme2 · 08/10/2026 07:33

'A masked 15-year-old who was captured on CCTV stabbing a schoolgirl had written notes saying he hated women, a court has heard.
Police were called to Thorpe St Andrew School, near Norwich, on 11 March, following reports that a 15-year-old girl had been stabbed in the back.
The defendant, who is now 16 and cannot be named for legal reasons,'

'He cannot be named'

So he is protected but women and girls whom he will go on to attack in the future, are not.

Says it all.

To be honest sex offenders, violent offenders and murderers change their names anyway so while that is still legal they are still going to keep offending and avoiding prison.

SmallDFartyCarNRG · 08/10/2026 10:14

ChoppyWalters · 08/10/2026 09:55

I think they need to build more prison space. Nothing fancy. Shipping containers would do like box parks, but multistory. No, I don’t particularly care about their environment, or their rehabilitation, I just want them put in there, throw some raw meat in every day and treat them like the beasts they behave like. Give them a bit of yard time and lots of alone time to think about about how they have seriously fucked up their lives and others.

Put the long timers in there. Give out proper sentencing for violent crimes and child abusers.

Put the rest of the people who blight society in the vacated spaces of the others who are now in shipping containers. Give the domestic abusers and such like proper robust sentencing. Repeat offenders of serious crimes, show them to a shipping containers, theirs for life.

All sounds a big hardcore, but the rest of us, especially the vulnerable, tiptoe through life avoiding situations, and places, and darkness because we are scared of being victims. We are the ones curtailing our lives now, having to put ourselves in prisons to avoid lowlives. Except now, the situations where we have to be on guard grows ever more because the perpetrators are more brazen, because they know justice is soft and women’s lives are cheap now.

Sick of it.

They do have women's prisons though - albeit they are mainly keeping women with mental health issues in who tend towards violence. I was imagining freeing up a lot of those prisons by freeing women and not having to build new ones.
Thinking on it a bit more I realised that women's prisons probably need to be all over the country so that they can have family visitations.

Agree with @SockPlant violent and sexual offenders should be locked up, all the rest should be doing community labour and cleaning up fly tipping, filling potholes, bin collections and working at the sewage treatment plants that apparently keep overflowing because of lack of oversight.
Sorry@choppy accidentally tagged your post, meant to like it. Am also fed up of worrying about stuff men don't even think about. Those dicks with the illegal reg plates tailgating and never getting even a speeding ticket, just one example.

Asiana · 08/10/2026 10:21

MrsTerryPratchett · 07/10/2026 20:06

Nope. Statistics show that female bystanders step in more often to protect people.

The plane is an outlier.

You know what, I thought about it and you're right. I do still believe there are good men. I've been blessed to have some in my life. However there are many many monsters out there.

AndyouWILLATONE · 08/10/2026 11:06

Just read Dr Terry was murdered by an axe through her head. I feel physically sick. My God. My God...

OsfameronTanamoril · 08/10/2026 11:45

Why did he have an axe in the house?

I was hoping against hope that it was an 'accident' where he pushed her and she fell and hit her head, but this is so savage. And then blaming a burglar!

Duncantoldme2 · 08/10/2026 11:45

I don't care who it is - any one - any one - who protects men in any way, even by saying namalt nmn etc, they are enablers. Enablers. And mums of these boys and men Can be the worst of all. See mum of the Henry Nowak killer, hiding the knife etc. Just no. Mum apologists for their sons who can do no wrong. Just fck off as well.

I know there are women out there who are not *like that. And thankfully there are many of those women too.

Netcurtainnelly · 08/10/2026 12:12

Dibdibbob · 06/10/2026 20:26

YANBU @Cicchetti - was just scrolling through the news and saw this woman’s murder and a sex worker murdered by a young guy (maybe 20) in a copycat Dexter type thing. And also Cornell.

I’m both angry and depressed that it’s getting worse rather than better, it seems. I’m starting to really despise the male race.

I read a comment by someone that if a young drunk man was in a room with seven females, he couldn’t be in a safer place. They’d look after him, make sure he was not choking on his vomit, keep him comfortable etc. How true.

If my son was ever involved in anything like Cornell, I’d drag him to the police station myself.

Agree
They don't give a shit even about their parents or letting them down .
Ewwww Id be thoroughly embarrassed and full of shame if my parents had to know if done something like them.
Make them proud of you.

Netcurtainnelly · 08/10/2026 12:21

LowlandLucky · 07/10/2026 18:33

Excuse after excuse made for the piss poor behaviour of men. It starts at school violent children in mainstream schools assaulting others, throwing books, pens or furniture at others. Little children having to deal with abuse and assault every single day, behaviour that would not be tolerated in the Heads office or the offices of our M.Ps or other adults but seemingly acceptable in a classroom.
Parents allow unchecked access to the internet for children. As long as the children are quiet the parents don't give fuck what they are watching. Primary school children with their own smart phones bought by feckless parents. Children watching deprived porn and extreme violence because the parents are too busy scrolling on their own phones to bother monitoring what their children are watching.
Then we have Hollywood churning out violent films one after the other. Yet they are staple viewing in many households. Closely followed by video games.
Bloody casual violence everywhere and too many adults allow it.

Children on the bus the other day after school scrolling on their phones. Do their parents know what they are looking it?

SmallDFartyCarNRG · 08/10/2026 13:06

Netcurtainnelly · 08/10/2026 12:21

Children on the bus the other day after school scrolling on their phones. Do their parents know what they are looking it?

To be honest it is men who made and keep porn free to all on the internet. Plenty of groups led by women have objected and cited how bad it is for kids, now they pretend it is fixed because everyone uses a VPN.

Futurehappiness · 08/10/2026 13:12

That is one of the most revolting things I have ever read. Tormenting a dying woman.....and spared prison.

SmallDFartyCarNRG · 08/10/2026 13:22

Futurehappiness · 08/10/2026 13:12

That is one of the most revolting things I have ever read. Tormenting a dying woman.....and spared prison.

So knowing someone has no immunity and doing that to them isn't classed as attempted murder? I know if you stop taking heart meds (often men do stop just to keep erections despite risk of death) and someone startles you, knowing or not knowing you had heart problems they could potentially be up for murder if you fall down dead. This guy was doing this deliberately and with intent! His previous actions show his hatred of her.

Keepoffmyartichokes · 08/10/2026 13:23

Duncantoldme2 · 08/10/2026 11:45

I don't care who it is - any one - any one - who protects men in any way, even by saying namalt nmn etc, they are enablers. Enablers. And mums of these boys and men Can be the worst of all. See mum of the Henry Nowak killer, hiding the knife etc. Just no. Mum apologists for their sons who can do no wrong. Just fck off as well.

I know there are women out there who are not *like that. And thankfully there are many of those women too.

How are we enablers? Surely we can have the ability to see that not all men are evil, violent thugs who abuse women, whilst also still acknowledging that their are men, yes too many men, that do.
I am not trying to be provocative but I genuinely don't see what is wrong with acknowledging that it's not 100% of men.

5128gap · 08/10/2026 13:32

Makebelieveanotherlife · 07/10/2026 13:11

I’ve read 3 stories in the last 2 days of women who killed their kids. It’s seems the men are killing their partners and women are doing it to their kids. Sad times.

Not really. Between 10 and 15 children are killed by women each year.
An average of 150 women are killed by men each year. Plus 45 children per year are killed by men.
Father's and stepfather are responsible for up to 85% of parental child murders.

NoisyBrickDog · 08/10/2026 13:43

SmallDFartyCarNRG · 08/10/2026 10:14

They do have women's prisons though - albeit they are mainly keeping women with mental health issues in who tend towards violence. I was imagining freeing up a lot of those prisons by freeing women and not having to build new ones.
Thinking on it a bit more I realised that women's prisons probably need to be all over the country so that they can have family visitations.

Agree with @SockPlant violent and sexual offenders should be locked up, all the rest should be doing community labour and cleaning up fly tipping, filling potholes, bin collections and working at the sewage treatment plants that apparently keep overflowing because of lack of oversight.
Sorry@choppy accidentally tagged your post, meant to like it. Am also fed up of worrying about stuff men don't even think about. Those dicks with the illegal reg plates tailgating and never getting even a speeding ticket, just one example.

Edited

There are evil women too though who need to be thrown in the 'shipping containers' - murderers, persistent offenders, thieves, sex offenders, child abusers......

They are all just as bad as the violent men - there are just not as many in proportion

I think due to the issues in prisons at the moment - and how difficult it is to get people in there - 99% of inmates (male & female) need be there as they are a blight on normal society. So I wouldn't just free people or make special treatment so they can be close for family visits.

NoisyBrickDog · 08/10/2026 13:46

5128gap · 08/10/2026 13:32

Not really. Between 10 and 15 children are killed by women each year.
An average of 150 women are killed by men each year. Plus 45 children per year are killed by men.
Father's and stepfather are responsible for up to 85% of parental child murders.

Its 3 women per day are murdered by men in the UK is the statistic I have been repeatedly told
That's 1,095 are killed by men per year in the UK alone!!!!!!

5128gap · 08/10/2026 13:50

NoisyBrickDog · 08/10/2026 13:46

Its 3 women per day are murdered by men in the UK is the statistic I have been repeatedly told
That's 1,095 are killed by men per year in the UK alone!!!!!!

Edited

Its one woman every 3 days. Not 3 women every day. 3 a week.
Which is of course, bad enough.

NoisyBrickDog · 08/10/2026 13:59

I'm sure I have read its 3 per day - not sure how I can check though

Lettersearch · 08/10/2026 14:08

shuggles · 07/10/2026 21:13

Unmasculine.

As you see yourself as “unmasculine” @shuggles , how would you describe yourself?

PauliesWalnuts · 08/10/2026 14:24

NoisyBrickDog · 08/10/2026 13:43

There are evil women too though who need to be thrown in the 'shipping containers' - murderers, persistent offenders, thieves, sex offenders, child abusers......

They are all just as bad as the violent men - there are just not as many in proportion

I think due to the issues in prisons at the moment - and how difficult it is to get people in there - 99% of inmates (male & female) need be there as they are a blight on normal society. So I wouldn't just free people or make special treatment so they can be close for family visits.

Persistent offenders (depending on what crime) and thieves are generally not "evil".

5128gap · 08/10/2026 14:26

NoisyBrickDog · 08/10/2026 13:59

I'm sure I have read its 3 per day - not sure how I can check though

Google Jess Phillips and the counting dead women roll call she delivers annually. In March 2026 she read out 110 names. Some years its more. Hence the higher average.
You could also Google femicide census.

NoisyBrickDog · 08/10/2026 14:27

PauliesWalnuts · 08/10/2026 14:24

Persistent offenders (depending on what crime) and thieves are generally not "evil".

They are in my book.

Why should small business owners (shops etc) put up with the same people stealing from them day in and day out and putting them out of business.

There is no excuse for it

NoisyBrickDog · 08/10/2026 14:29

5128gap · 08/10/2026 14:26

Google Jess Phillips and the counting dead women roll call she delivers annually. In March 2026 she read out 110 names. Some years its more. Hence the higher average.
You could also Google femicide census.

This is the 110 that we know about - I'm sure the figure will be a lot higher.

Its like sexual offences - most go unreported!

PauliesWalnuts · 08/10/2026 14:32

NoisyBrickDog · 08/10/2026 14:27

They are in my book.

Why should small business owners (shops etc) put up with the same people stealing from them day in and day out and putting them out of business.

There is no excuse for it

Tiresome, selfish, greedy - yes. But not evil.