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AIBU for taking my 11 month old to an evening meal?

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MarLiz2026 · 04/10/2026 22:42

Last night I went for dinner with my husband, 11 month old and a few friends. One of our friends lives abroad and doesn’t come back to our hometown often, and he invited us out with a couple other friends to catch up and enjoy a nice evening together.

The meal was booked for 7pm and for different reasons we didn’t have anybody who could look after our baby. It has been several months since we went out for dinner with our daughter, as now she is 11 months old she is much more routined and harder to keep entertained whilst out! But we didn’t want to miss seeing our friend and thought one night isn’t going to harm anybody, we still need to have a life too!

We were seated in a smaller seating area, with a high chair and plenty of room for a pram. The restaurant was quite small and quaint but they were absolutely lovely. Just after we sat down, a couple were sat down near us. It was just our table of 5 + baby and those 2 sat in this area.

We brought toys for our daughter and hoped that once it was around bedtime we could get her to sleep in the pram. She hardly cried, and she just occasionally made some loud noises (like 11 month olds do). We did not let her run or crawl around and she was always either in her high chair or in our arms or the pram. We spent a good portion of the night trying to get her to sleep (with great difficulty) and had to do a bit of pram rocking and breastfeeding and taking her out and putting her back etc and naturally at times she got a little fussy but she was generally really good and didn’t make much noise.

When trying to get her to sleep I rocked her in the pram and me and my husband were putting a great effort into keeping her calm and trying to get her to sleep. The entire time, the couple kept looking at me (the man turning around every few minutes) and the woman staring at me the whole time. They were quite obviously talking about us and the baby and were seemed really annoyed that my daughter was there. I didn’t say anything as I didn’t want to make an already awkward situation more awkward, especially as we were having a nice evening with our friends. At one point I overheard them complaining to the staff and it made me feel so uncomfortable and to be honest really upset. When they eventually left I did share with my table and they all said I should have said something, but it has left me feeling really sad and like I have done something wrong by bringing her out?

This is the first time in a long time we have gone out with her in the evening and to be honest it has really put me off taking her out again. I would have taken her for a walk in the pram rather than rocking it in the area but we were actually seated upstairs and had to carry the pram up and down the stairs.

AIBU for taking my daughter? I don’t think I would normally care but as it’s been such a long time since we have done anything with her in the evening it has really knocked my confidence.

OP posts:
Cakerose · 07/10/2026 19:45

Chickpeacurrywithrice · 07/10/2026 14:44

Not sure the OP was complaining about the establishment or their staff?

Well they are people too, no? I was making a point that even the restaurant staff is not consistent or always welcoming when it comes to kids in restaurants - so what can one expect from the other guests. In any case she should not care and she should feel free to enjoy going to any establishment with her baby unless explicitly forbidden to enter.
Also, those saying it's unfair to the child,it was past bedtime etc...have no business making such comments - it is the parent's responsibility and decision to make - and clearly she weighed the options.
I also don't enjoy dogs wagging wet tails over my coffee and pastry in any random coffee shop nowadays but dogs are welcome and I certainly don't huff and puff at dog owners.. Also a barking dog in a cafe would probably enjoy more running out about instead of sitting and waiting while the owner chitchats in a cafe but we are not calling the dog owners irresponsible and stating ' oh it must be a torture for the poor dog' do we?

Chickpeacurrywithrice · 07/10/2026 20:59

OP asked AIBU, people answered! Is it only ok to answer if people say she is NBU?

Catlover77 · 07/10/2026 21:00

Yes

Chickpeacurrywithrice · 07/10/2026 21:00

Chickpeacurrywithrice · 07/10/2026 20:59

OP asked AIBU, people answered! Is it only ok to answer if people say she is NBU?

That’s was in response to @Cakerose

Cakerose · 07/10/2026 21:28

Chickpeacurrywithrice · 07/10/2026 20:59

OP asked AIBU, people answered! Is it only ok to answer if people say she is NBU?

No and where did I say that? Same as all those people I am too only sharing my opinion.
I am fully supportive of OP because I would like her to enjoy this wonderful time with her baby without her feeling like she is being an inconvenience by simply showing up for a meal with her child (I still can't believe that people feel entitled to make her feel like she is not welcomed in public places with her child!!).

tiredmummasita · 07/10/2026 22:04

Never feel embarrassed or shrink yourself or your child. You exist and have just same right to be there as someone else 💕

Chickpeacurrywithrice · 07/10/2026 23:48

Cakerose · 07/10/2026 21:28

No and where did I say that? Same as all those people I am too only sharing my opinion.
I am fully supportive of OP because I would like her to enjoy this wonderful time with her baby without her feeling like she is being an inconvenience by simply showing up for a meal with her child (I still can't believe that people feel entitled to make her feel like she is not welcomed in public places with her child!!).

You said it here

Also, those saying it's unfair to the child,it was past bedtime etc...have no business making such comments

Are people not allowed to explain why the OP is BU? The context?

She is hardly being locked in the house, people have said the time was wrong! Even OP didn’t want to bring the baby and enjoy that particular time (like the other hours in that day weren’t enough to enjoy), she tried to get a babysitter.

GoodChocolate · 08/10/2026 01:01

tiredmummasita · 07/10/2026 22:04

Never feel embarrassed or shrink yourself or your child. You exist and have just same right to be there as someone else 💕

Im not sure that is true.what was the baby's spend?

maxslice · 08/10/2026 03:58

ThisWiseRobin · 05/10/2026 09:09

Looking at someone else and staring is now a problem is it. What world do you inhabit?

One that requires good manners.

CrazyMidget · 08/10/2026 03:58

GoodChocolate · 08/10/2026 01:01

Im not sure that is true.what was the baby's spend?

To me, it sounds like she left her purse at home. Probably on purpose. Should have been in there doing the washing up. 😂

Cakerose · 08/10/2026 08:59

Chickpeacurrywithrice · 07/10/2026 23:48

You said it here

Also, those saying it's unfair to the child,it was past bedtime etc...have no business making such comments

Are people not allowed to explain why the OP is BU? The context?

She is hardly being locked in the house, people have said the time was wrong! Even OP didn’t want to bring the baby and enjoy that particular time (like the other hours in that day weren’t enough to enjoy), she tried to get a babysitter.

Hah, yeah alright, people that are annoyed by babies being in restaurants in the evenings are not prioritising their own comfort - they are in fact just thinking about the child's wellbeing - got it. 😑
I said what I said - people making such comments know nothing about the child's routine or particular family circumstances for the particular evening and have absolutely no business judging parenting skills of the OP.
Because those statements are not arguments (which are welcome as I said), those are straight up ungrounded judgements.

Chickpeacurrywithrice · 08/10/2026 09:50

Cakerose · 08/10/2026 08:59

Hah, yeah alright, people that are annoyed by babies being in restaurants in the evenings are not prioritising their own comfort - they are in fact just thinking about the child's wellbeing - got it. 😑
I said what I said - people making such comments know nothing about the child's routine or particular family circumstances for the particular evening and have absolutely no business judging parenting skills of the OP.
Because those statements are not arguments (which are welcome as I said), those are straight up ungrounded judgements.

Edited

We do know the OPs baby’s routine as she told us, she also said baby was tired (naturally). It’s quite easy to spot a tired baby, they start rubbing their eyes and grizzling.

People will have opinions and can discuss that.

Cakerose · 08/10/2026 10:06

Chickpeacurrywithrice · 08/10/2026 09:50

We do know the OPs baby’s routine as she told us, she also said baby was tired (naturally). It’s quite easy to spot a tired baby, they start rubbing their eyes and grizzling.

People will have opinions and can discuss that.

Sure, that's probably why she needed to explain herself over and over again and even do a final post after 20+ pages explaining everything again for all those who 'understood' her circumstances and how things played out at the restaurant.
Yeah - people must have got it right.
Anyway, I am not planning to engage myself in this topic anymore - but honestly - shaming a mother for bringing a baby (and a 'well' behaving one by the Mumsnet jury standards - although not that it matters at all) to a restaurant for a family meal... Just wow.

Chickpeacurrywithrice · 08/10/2026 12:03

Cakerose · 08/10/2026 10:06

Sure, that's probably why she needed to explain herself over and over again and even do a final post after 20+ pages explaining everything again for all those who 'understood' her circumstances and how things played out at the restaurant.
Yeah - people must have got it right.
Anyway, I am not planning to engage myself in this topic anymore - but honestly - shaming a mother for bringing a baby (and a 'well' behaving one by the Mumsnet jury standards - although not that it matters at all) to a restaurant for a family meal... Just wow.

A baby that needed a lot of attention! Babies are not well behaved or not, they’re “babies” unpredictable and you can’t reason with them,

Cakerose · 08/10/2026 12:23

Chickpeacurrywithrice · 08/10/2026 12:03

A baby that needed a lot of attention! Babies are not well behaved or not, they’re “babies” unpredictable and you can’t reason with them,

Hence me putting in it in quotes. But glad we agree on something.

Chickpeacurrywithrice · 08/10/2026 14:21

Cakerose · 08/10/2026 12:23

Hence me putting in it in quotes. But glad we agree on something.

Just wow!

LeaderBee · 08/10/2026 14:33

I personally wouldn't take an 11 month with me to a restaurant if I had an option, but given you didn't have any care plans and everything was a bit short notice then I can't really fault you.

OldScribbler · 08/10/2026 15:05

A big fuss about nothing important.

HutchMadras · 08/10/2026 18:14

Indeed, As most of the discussions are on here,

smilingontheinside · 10/10/2026 16:10

GoodChocolate · 07/10/2026 05:46

Completely irrelevant to the ops question

An observation that a fractious 11 month old would have far less annoying than drunk grown adults. But thank you reading then pointing out that my comment was irrelevant. I will try and remember for next time should I ever wish to make a comparison to any OP questions 🙄

Sowhat12345 · 10/10/2026 18:06

MarLiz2026 · 04/10/2026 22:42

Last night I went for dinner with my husband, 11 month old and a few friends. One of our friends lives abroad and doesn’t come back to our hometown often, and he invited us out with a couple other friends to catch up and enjoy a nice evening together.

The meal was booked for 7pm and for different reasons we didn’t have anybody who could look after our baby. It has been several months since we went out for dinner with our daughter, as now she is 11 months old she is much more routined and harder to keep entertained whilst out! But we didn’t want to miss seeing our friend and thought one night isn’t going to harm anybody, we still need to have a life too!

We were seated in a smaller seating area, with a high chair and plenty of room for a pram. The restaurant was quite small and quaint but they were absolutely lovely. Just after we sat down, a couple were sat down near us. It was just our table of 5 + baby and those 2 sat in this area.

We brought toys for our daughter and hoped that once it was around bedtime we could get her to sleep in the pram. She hardly cried, and she just occasionally made some loud noises (like 11 month olds do). We did not let her run or crawl around and she was always either in her high chair or in our arms or the pram. We spent a good portion of the night trying to get her to sleep (with great difficulty) and had to do a bit of pram rocking and breastfeeding and taking her out and putting her back etc and naturally at times she got a little fussy but she was generally really good and didn’t make much noise.

When trying to get her to sleep I rocked her in the pram and me and my husband were putting a great effort into keeping her calm and trying to get her to sleep. The entire time, the couple kept looking at me (the man turning around every few minutes) and the woman staring at me the whole time. They were quite obviously talking about us and the baby and were seemed really annoyed that my daughter was there. I didn’t say anything as I didn’t want to make an already awkward situation more awkward, especially as we were having a nice evening with our friends. At one point I overheard them complaining to the staff and it made me feel so uncomfortable and to be honest really upset. When they eventually left I did share with my table and they all said I should have said something, but it has left me feeling really sad and like I have done something wrong by bringing her out?

This is the first time in a long time we have gone out with her in the evening and to be honest it has really put me off taking her out again. I would have taken her for a walk in the pram rather than rocking it in the area but we were actually seated upstairs and had to carry the pram up and down the stairs.

AIBU for taking my daughter? I don’t think I would normally care but as it’s been such a long time since we have done anything with her in the evening it has really knocked my confidence.

I think meals out are so expensive now you want peace and quiet not to be distracted by what was going on at your table. Sorry think you were being a bit selfish

Rosebluemoonradish · 10/10/2026 18:07

Totally fine! Your baby is a valid guest and sounds like she did really well and so did you in managing to get her to sleep with little fuss. The couple should have asked to be moved if their position in the restaurant was bothering them- not in any way your problem.
We took our baby out loads in the first year. I've only started questioning it now he's 2.5 and it's exhausting running round the restaurant after him while he destroys the place!! Make the most of it while they can still be contained!! Don't let anyone make you feel bad about your baby!
Then again I would be sensitive to a very posh fine dining experience which is obviously a 'date spot'- however we've also taken him to them!! That's why I probably wouldn't again haha.

Anon585 · 10/10/2026 18:09

It's a public place, people are allowed to bring their babies. I don't understand why people go into public spaces and have expectations of how it will be to their exacting specifications, unless the restaurant explicitly says it doesn't accommodate children, which it obviously didn't. People who are 'bothered' by babies need to get a life imo.

2cleverlovingchildren · 10/10/2026 18:21

MarLiz2026 · 04/10/2026 22:52

I did explain why I didn’t do this in the original post? We were seated upstairs meaning I would’ve had to carry the pram downstairs with somebody helping me and then back upstairs with somebody helping me.

The restaurant were completely aware a baby was coming (hence the high chair and pram space provided) and only put us upstairs as they allow dogs downstairs so didn’t want there to be a baby with dogs.

If dogs are allowed in the restaurant downstairs then it clearly wasn’t a fine dining restaurant so people shouldn’t have been expecting an “adult only” experience.

I think you were absolutely fine. I also think, next time you should have a quiet word with the couple and ask them why they have an issue as they shouldn’t be making your table feel awkward and uncomfortable. I’m assuming they could have sat downstairs or gone to an “adult only” restaurant.

Sunshine231 · 10/10/2026 18:46

MarLiz2026 · 06/10/2026 19:20

I said I wouldn’t post on this thread again, but since I am still having so many comments I am going to do one final post. I really didn’t think it would be this interesting, nor that I would have to explain so much detail as there is so much speculation on this thread it’s unreal.

-My husband, myself AND my baby were specifically invited out by my friend
-We said yes, but said we are not sure about the baby and we will try and see if someone can have her. Friend booked a restaurant (and made sure a high chair was available) in case baby came
-Our friend also invited 2 other friends (also our friends!) and they were fully aware and happy that the baby was invited (there is something called a Group Chat believe it or not)
-My husband and I arranged for a family member to babysit DESPITE our baby being invited which is our prerogative to do
-The family member became unwell and couldn’t do it, we tried to see if anyone else could have her, they couldn’t, we decided to bring her (we checked with our friends if it was still ok and it was)
-It was the first time in a long time we have brought the baby out, not that we have been out as a couple.
-The restaurant had a planned table for us upstairs when we arrived. It was a table of 8 but there was only 5 of us + high chair. High chair was seated at the table with us and there was space for a pram next to our table (next to a wall/window and not near another table)
-The restaurant sat us upstairs because they have dogs downstairs and there is more room upstairs for a larger party (their request!!! I did not care about being near a dog)
-The restaurant staff helped us with the pram as they were also aware a pram was coming
-The couple then came up after we had already been there for 15 minutes. It was only us and them in the room
-They were not directly next to us, they were 2 tables behind us. None of our things or bodies were in their space
-I could see them because I was sat facing them. The room was an L shaped room so my husband sat next to me was obscured a bit by a wall and the other 3 of our party were opposite us facing us and not the couple
-My daughter was well behaved. Yes she made some loud noises, fussed a little (as in wanting to move) and she hardly cried hence why I said she hardly cried. She is 11 months old, she is not going to sit in complete silence the whole meal or not try and move and I wouldn’t expect anyone to do that, child or adult
-She was rubbing her eyes which is why I tried to get her to sleep. I did rock her and breastfeed her and have her in my lap and high chair.
-By me saying I put “great effort” into keeping her calm I mean I was making sure she was entertained and happy, not that she was on the brink of meltdown constantly.
-She did fall asleep at the restaurant and in the pram, it just took longer than I expected. As I mentioned in my post I hadn’t taken her out for a while and last time it was much easier so I thought it would be easier.
-The couple looked around late 70’s/80’s unlikely to have had their own babysitter like has been suggested a lot
-The couple were definitely looking at me, complaining and unhappy. The woman was staring, rolling her eyes, giving me ‘dirty looks’. The man was turning around and doing the same.
-Early on in the evening I smiled at the woman a few times when she was looking, innocently thinking she was just looking at the baby. She didn’t smile back and straight away looked and spoke to her husband and looked displeased.
-The meal was at 7pm and we were home before 9. Our babies bedtime is around 8pm so she wasn’t up later than usual or anything like that (even if she was it’s up to me if she’s up past bedtime)
-I have googled the restaurant since this post (it is about 35 minutes away from where I live so I have never been there before this night) and it is open from 5:30pm - 10:30pm on Thursdays, Fridays and Saturdays and 12pm-4pm on a Sunday.
-It cost around £23 for me to have a main meal and a soft drink.
-It had a children’s menu

If you have bothered to read all of this I hope that is enough information for everyone since whatever I wrote clearly wasn’t enough.

The couple are in their right to be annoyed as we cannot tell anyone how to or how not to feel, but making me feel very uncomfortable and quite obviously complaining about me I don’t think is very fair, hence why I asked if I was being unreasonable.

The general consensus is I was being unreasonable - that’s fine. I asked and that’s the answer I got, although I do think a lot of people seemed to make up scenarios that weren’t true or relevant.

I acknowledged in earlier responses I probably could have taken her out and that I usually would, but I didn’t because of the stairs and I thought it would be more disruptive than her just being upstairs and pretty settled. I don’t think that makes me extremely selfish or a terrible parent with an unruly child like again so many people have commented.

I thought I was being considerate and genuinely tried all evening to be considerate of others and to best for everyone. I appreciate now that maybe others don’t think this is considerate and that’s fine - that’s why I asked the question.

I appreciate anyone who answered politely whether they thought I was unreasonable or not - I don’t appreciate the amount of people calling me selfish, saying my child was obviously 10000x worse than I am saying she was, saying how rude and basically what a terrible person I am 😂 if my child was screaming the place down and really disruptive, obviously I would take her outside without a second thought. She wasn’t like this which is why I didn’t do this.

I’m not writing again now as this post has become ridiculous. This is meant to be ‘Mumsnet’, we are all mums trying to navigate this life - try and be nice!

Edited

OP I have learnt that as a mum you have 2 options when it comes to this kind of thing. People generally do not want to see or hear your kids out in public (other than in places which are purpose built for kids: softplay, play cafes, McDonald’s, the park etc.,) it doesn’t matter how well behaved or cute they are. Also people are mostly arseholes. They won’t either be nice about it if your child is somewhere they don’t want a child to be.

So option 1 is that you accept this and decide not to give a sh*t, carry on about your business and ignore any judgement / staring etc.

Or option 2 is that you decide the judgement / staring bothers you too much and you don’t take your kids out to public places anymore (except of course the places I mentioned which are specifically made for kids).

From your comments I suspect you fall into the latter category and should avoid taking the baby places which are not specifically designed for a baby and at times which a baby is not typically expected to be there (i.e., in the evening). I personally don’t care if a child or baby is in a restaurant, I couldn’t even give a damn if the child is kicking right off. Live and let live and all that. But it’s unreasonable not to know that most people don’t like it.