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Partner accused me of hurting our baby in front of his family? Am I overreacting

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Aristocack · Yesterday 17:07

This has literally just happened and I've excused myself to the bedroom in complete shock.

I have birth 2 weeks ago to our son. My partner overall has been a really hands-on good dad and always steps in to help when I'm struggling the baby. This is good but I also find at times that he criticises me. This is both of our first child.

This week we have 3 of his family members visiting from abroad. They are staying with us for 10 nights, they arrived late last night (and I had a lovely meal spread put out for them) . I spent this morning upstairs with baby as he's been cluster-feeding and I'm breastfeeding and don't want to whip my boobs out in front of them.

At 4pm after me and baby had had a good sleep, I got ready (left baby in his bassinet in the bedroom) and then got the baby ready and was about to bring him downstairs when he had a blowout and covered himself, me and his bedroom bassinet in poo and sick. I got overwhelmed and called my partner and asked him to come upstairs and help as by this point our baby was hungry and crying. Partner took the baby downstairs to give him a bottle of expressed breast milk and I clean up the mess upstairs and showered and got changed again.

I come down and say hi the family and I was about to go and get myself a drink (they were having a BBQ in garden) and partner is feeding the baby with them stood around cooing. My partner calls my name and beckons me over so I go into the garden. He says "What are these huge red marks on the baby's face? These weren't there when I left the baby with you." His family members all stayed silent. I was in shock that he'd just asked that so I stuttered a bit and said "It is his nails, we need to cut them." It is his nails, they are very long. I tried to cut them last week but I was too terrified to cut his finger and had a close call so I stopped and haven't attempted since. I've been reminding my partner that we need to do them and that I'd like him to help as he has a steadier hand but we haven't got around to it yet. My partner then reiterated "These weren't there before I left the baby with you this morning." Everyone stayed quiet so I just sort of slinkered off to wash my pump as I have to pump every time the baby has a bottle.

As I was stood at the sink he shouts from the garden "Don't you think the baby was too hot upstairs? His face is covered in sweat." and I spoke back and said "He is fine, he is wet from the crying." and my partner said under his breath "Yeah of course". Keep in mind this is in front of all of his family members.

By this point I felt completely and utterly ashamed and humiliated so I went upstairs to pump. He's just come up again and I thought it was to apologise but then he said "Did you put the baby's teddy bear coat on when you went on our yesterday? I saw it out on the dining table. Isn't it too big for him?" and I just told him "No it's fine." and he left.

I can't stop crying, I'm really trying my best with this baby and he's just making me feel like a shit mother in front of everyone. The family are here for another 9 nights. I had been really looking forward to them coming over and showing them my baby and now I just want to run away.

OP posts:
Namechangewegovyjune26 · Today 08:59

Aristocack · Today 08:17

When I told partner I was having the bed as mine and baby's comfort is priority and that he had the choice of being in the bed with us or the sofa, he said that he'd have the sofa for a few hours and come up to the bedroom in in the early hours to assist us. No sign of him yet so I guess I'll just get up now. I went down at 6 to make a cup of tea and asked him if he was coming up and he just mumbled "later" at me.

Edited

Oh I bet he wants to play the victim / hero now in front of his family. Be prepared for them being told you kicked him out of the bed 🙄

Im honestly really worried for you OP.

And you need to get those people out of your house so you can rest and enjoy baby!! I can’t believe you both agreed for them to stay that long while you are recovering. Guessing you didn’t have much say in the matter? But it would have been over my dead body while I was in new mum mode to have in laws staying over.

MadinMarch · Today 09:07

He is a very very selfish man and wants everything to revolve around his comfort and wishes first. His ideas for prioritising his own sleep and having the bed to himself are beyond ridiculous!
OP- you need to make it very clear whenever needed that the baby's needs come first, and then yours as you're breast feeding and recovering from the birth. It sounds as though you'll need to maintain firm boundaries in the longer term too.
The fact that he has invited family for a holiday rather than as a support to you as someone with a newborn is appalling. Please do not do any of the work in looking after of them. Do you feel able to tell him that at the moment it is your job to feed the baby and you expect him to take care of everything else -the cooking,(for you both) the cleaning and the washing?
He has a lot to learn about the realities of fatherhood... I hope he learns quick for your sake, but I suspect it's not going to be easy for you.
Keep posting here OP -mumsnet is very supportive in these scenarios. You're doing great, and get out for that coffee on your own with baby today!

Ohthatsabitshit · Today 09:09

Of course you want to push your baby in a pram. We all have our magic moments. However if you are still gushing occasionally then I would wait a little longer. I remember very clearly leaving my own house solo with my first dc, to walk 100m to the nearest bakery where the ladies in the shop had been so kind to pregnant me. I got about half way and had to sit down on a wall. If it was me I’d make that my prize at the end of these first few early weeks. You really really won’t be healed inside yet. The placenta is large and it leaves a big wound when it rips away. All part of the process but so is this slow start. Honestly childfree relatives and your husband could just be completely clueless.

Iheartlibrarians · Today 09:09

@Aristocack can you say any more about why these family members are staying so soon after you've given birth, and for so long?

It seems a really unusual situation, and that's before we knew you were sleeping on the sofa. It doesn't even seem as though they're helping you- was that ever the plan?

You've not said much about how you feel about this or whether you'd like them to leave. Wouldn't it be vastly easier if he could have the spare room?

dnadiscoveryquery · Today 09:10

Op, I’ve read this during the night and am very disturbed and echo all the other pp.

I hope you had a good night in the bed with your beautiful baby, in the start of your new routine.

Be firm, set your boundaries like you have, and please don’t wait on others , it’s incredibly selfish of them to expect it.

TealHacks · Today 09:12

I would tell the clueless idiots guests to leave. Do it today.

It is deplorable that they have descended on you and your home after you have just given birth.

As for your partner, he is never going to have your back if he can treat you like this post childbirth. He isn't someone I would want to stay with.

You deserve so much better OP.

Stifledlife · Today 09:14

First, get rid of the visitors! You need 2 beds and they are an unwelcome distraction from you forming a new normal that works for both of you (which is what paternity leave is supposed to be for).
Secondly, I'm so glad that you've ditched the "night shift" concept. What struck me most is that you are having to pump before you latch the baby on. That means all the fore milk which is full of colostrum isn't getting to the baby when you feed him.
Thirdly, he clearly has no idea about how vulnerable childbirth makes you feel. Your baby's age is still measured in days and your husband is being propriatorial about it? Only one of you is able to sustain that baby's life and it isn't him.

Aluna · Today 09:14

Aristocack · Today 08:14

So I need to make a correction as I was tired last night and wasn't clear - the sister is here for 10 nights in our spare room. Cousin and cousins boyfriend are here for 3 nights and on a camping bed in the dining room. Partner was on sofa in living room.

What are all these people doing in the house when you have a new baby?

Your DH is an arse but you do seem quite passive OP, you to start saying no without MN coaching.

Fortuity · Today 09:14

Why are you doing all the cooking and entertaining? The point of paternity leave is so that the father can help with the baby and generally help the mother while she recovers - not that he can have a lovely time showing off to his family while the mother slaves for all of them.

anotheruser345 · Today 09:15

ThreadGuardDog · Today 08:14

Apologies if I’ve missed it but I couldn’t find any mention of the number of bedrooms in OP’s posts, so I assumed that there are other bedrooms, but they’re taken up by the ‘guests’. If that’s the case then it adds a whole new disgusting layer to the fact that OP is forced to sleep on the sofa as the only alternative left in her own home.

I asked as I was wondering why OP was forced to sleep on the sofa the last 2 weeks if they have other rooms.

The fact she wasnt in her bedroom was bad enough but why not the guest room? The guests only arrived last night but OP has slept on the sofa since giving birth unless ive read it wrong.

Mumtotornadoes · Today 09:17

ThreadGuardDog · Today 08:34

I can’t fathom why a husband would prioritise anyone over his own wife and their new baby like this - his sister was sleeping in the only spare bed while OP was on the sofa taking care of the baby. His family sound as bad as he is, and I’m afraid I would be insisting on them leaving.

Because they hate their wives and want to see them struggle.

anotheruser345 · Today 09:17

Aristocack · Today 08:14

So I need to make a correction as I was tired last night and wasn't clear - the sister is here for 10 nights in our spare room. Cousin and cousins boyfriend are here for 3 nights and on a camping bed in the dining room. Partner was on sofa in living room.

Can I ask why you have been on the sofa most nights when you have a spare room then? Not that its remotely acceptable to be anywhere other than your bed but as you have also been having shoulder pain, it sounded like the only options are your bed or the sofa?

Also was it your Husband that invited the guests? Did he check with you about any of this?

Timsbluetrousers · Today 09:21

I am totally shocked at what I have read
What an utterly dreadful man
He has absolutely no concern for his wife
But that was clear from the start of the thread
Inviting family over to stay .. obviously he wasn't going to be cooking and cleaning up after them ..
Op , thank goodness you have stood up to him and claimed the bed and stopped the rediculous pumping in the night
Only pump If it suits YOU to pump ..they are your breasts..he does not get a say in how baby is fed
You are absolutely right ,he needs to piss of back to work.
I absolutely couldn't live with a controlling man like that ..
I absolutely would be finding a way to leave asap

TR0LLING · Today 09:23

You need to leave. I know you said your mum lives an hour away and is a carer, but does she have a spare room ? if so , and she would be willing to have you and baby - just go.

Tell your partner tomorrow that your mother has had some bad health news and you need to go for a couple of days to support her. ( These things happen all the time, the doctor finds a lump / mass and it could be cancer but then they investigate and it’s not. Or someone has chest pain / palpitations and they think it’s their heart . So you can always back track later if you need to) .

Then when you are there, make an excuse to stay longer. Yes he will be angry but that’s not your problem. Take your photo ID with you.

If you can’t go right now, then start documenting everything he has done to imply that you are not caring for the baby or not coping. Make a note somewhere safe like you phone ( assuming he doesn’t know your password ). Put dates and times and who was there . Take photos of any marks on the baby, however small.

If you can’t go to your mums tomorrow, go and see your own health visitor or Gp WITH THE BABY and tell them that your parther has said in front of others that you are not coping / harming the baby.Ask them to check over baby when you are there and write it in the notes.

If your parther asks, tell him you are going because of an issue with your PP bleeding. You need to take baby because she’s due a feed.

Apply for a passport online for your baby and have it posted to your mother’s house / another trusted friend or family member. This will stop your parther making an application and taking baby abroad to “ see his family “ and not returning.

DONT TELL YOU PARTNER ABOUT ANY OF THIS.

And before anyone suggests it, don’t show him this thread or tell him you are on MN. Make sure he can’t see this on your phone, log out each time.

If his comments about you harming baby are an “ innocent mistake “ , then no harm will come from any of the above . You staying at your mums will allow you to feed on demand and stop the over supply and get more rest.

If you stay at your mums for more than a few days , go and register( you and baby ) as a temporary residents with her GP. This is in case your partner claims that you have “ run away “ with baby and he’s concerned about your mental health and baby’s welfare and no one knows where you are.

If he phones up and threatens this, take baby to the Gp at your mums, tell them what he said and ask them to check baby over.

Then go to the local police station at your mums, show then your photo ID, tell them your temporary address at your mums, that baby is fine and has been seen by local GP and that your partner is threatening to report you to the police as missing and baby as in danger because he’s controlling.

This will stop the police turning up unannounced at your mums door for a “welfare check”. If they are concerned , they will phone you and arrange a time . And you won’t be living in fear at your mums . Which is why these men pull this trick - they don’t want you to feel safe.

I know this is a lot of hassle and no doubt someone will post here and say it’s an over reaction. But abusive men are very good at using the systems that were set up to protect victims of abuse against them and to perpetrate their own control.

And of course , men like this are always “ calm and logical “ when dealing with the authorities, whereas a post partum mother who is in pain, sleep deprived and terrified of losing her baby will inevitably be seen as “ tearful , hysterical and paranoid “. So you MUST start documenting this and seek support from professionals.

Your partner’s behavoir is very controlling , it’s verging on coercive control, which is a crime. He could be planning to take the baby, but it’s more likely that he wants to make you afraid so that you do what he wants. very few men actaully want 24/7 care of a tiny baby but lots more like having a wife appliance who is totally under their control.

It doesn’t matter whether or not he’s from a “ patriarchal county “ , there are controlling men in all cultures .

Remember , if he is “ totally innocent “ and you are “ over reacting “ , then none of the above will do any harm.

Going to see your mum allows him to send time with his family and sleep in the bed and you to rest and sort out your milk supply without “ disturbing him at night “.

Asking your / your mums Gp / HV to check over baby and document your concerns in your notes harms no one , the medical notes are confidential. You and baby are potentially at risk and you are EXACTLY the kind of new mum they want to seek support.

NovaF · Today 09:26

TheSandgroper · Today 04:33

Yes, he is gaslighting you.

He isn’t on paternity leave for a rest cure. He is there to support you. He should

Make sure you always have a drink at hand.

Tidy the changing station.
Wash and prep his own fucking feeding bottles. WTAF???
Cooking nutritious food that you can eat one handed.
Washing clothes for baby.
Possibly washing your clothes.
Stripping your bed, making it with fresh sheets.
Washing the dirty sheets.
Sweeping/vac floors.
Taking you all out for a little fresh air.
Making sure you and your gorgeous baby get to cuddle each other as much as you want. It’s how babies stay alive.

Telling you that you are the best thing since sliced bread in his life, he is very thankful, and proud of you.
THAT YOU ARE THE BEST MOTHER EVER.

If you’re not getting that, pack up and go to your Mam’s.

There is so much good advice in this about what he should be doing.

OP I think you need to tell him clearly that the relationship is not working due to his behaviour to you

  • you will not be pumping anymore as in order to facilitate his precious sleep this has given you an oversupply which makes your breasts painfully uncomfortable and also the baby cannot latch. You will not be doing this anymore and will feed the baby yourself every 2-3 hours.
  • you will not be made to feel like a human cow any longer
  • he claims you asking for help in the house is you struggling, when it is simply you asking him for a normal level of partner support to help out because he has taken no proactive interest in supporting you
  • He should be prioritising you and your recovery and at no point has he
  • the selfishness of having guests stay for that long for that soon, and then expecting you to cater for them.
  • when his sister called him he asked you to go help because he was watching a video
  • not even bothering to bring you water or make you a plate of food when you are recovering after birth, breastfeeding, pumping and heavily bleeding
  • prioritising his desire for six hours straight of sleep when baby is born and relegating you to the couch. Not bringing you water or helping with nappy changes in the middle of the night.
  • telling you you can sleep on the couch the selfishness of this horrible man
  • accusing you of injuring the baby in front of everyone. His english is fine and even is it was not why would that mean he would firstly need to call you into where everyone was, and then shout into another room rather than going to you and quietly asking? That has nothing to do with language.
  • Swearing at you and taking out his anger over paternity leave on you
  • not even bothering to get up when you came down at 6am so swap. So self centred.

You must tell your GP/ Health Visitor/midwife, ideally one of the latter two. Get their advice and hopefully the next time there is a home visit or appointment he attends with you they can spell out how you need to be supported.

I realise staying with your Mum is probably out of the question, but going to her for the day on the train or taking baby out to see a friend or even go to a baby group (does not matter baby is 2 weeks old and sleeping!) will give you some headspace and time away, but only if you can manage it, dont drain yourself further.

Do not make this mans life easy for him at the detriment of you

Maomee · Today 09:30

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Aristocack · Today 09:32

Just had more unpleasantness this morning.

I went down at 9am and him and his sister were having breakfast. He gave me a performative kiss on the head and took the baby. I made a coffee. He kept saying to the baby how much he missed him which is funny considering he stayed downstairs all night.

I noticed some chicken in the fridge that had gone off 2 days prior so I binned it and made a comment that I wish I had checked the use by date before buying it. He went on a 5 minute rant about how I never check the use by date, how he tells me all the time that I should check, how I should plan better, how we need to now buy more meat yada yada yada. In the end I had to butt in and tell him to get over it and stop going on about it because it's not the end of the fucking world.

Baby then started grizzling for food. Partner said he needs to video call some family abroad so he needs to have the baby for a bit. Partner offered to make my breakfast whilst I feed the baby so that he is calm for the video call - seems like a fair suggestion. I asked him to make 2 eggs and 2 toast for me. I also politely asked him to rinse the bacon fat off the frying pan before he makes my eggs as I'm not keen on crispy eggs cooked in fat. I don't think it was a huge ask. He rolled his eyes, told me to shut up and tutted, once again in front of his sister. He then went on a rant about how I always "accuse him" of "cooking eggs in fat" and it's wrong because he "only uses butter". He got really pissed off. All of this in front of his sister.

It's like he's now trying to make me out to be controlling and demanding?

OP posts:
Seajaye · Today 09:32

Whilst unlikely for a new born ,could your baby be teething?

Your husband, quite frankly is being horribly unsupportive in front of his parents for some reason.. Perhaps his family have been goading him over his proactive involvement which they might feel is untraditional for fathers . He is undermining you in front of his parents to get some kind of reaction. You just need to calm down and perhaps diffuse what he is saying is wrong with the baby in front of his parents by suggesting that you take baby's temperature, checking that he's feeding properly, that you trim baby's finger nails together ( if baby has scratched himself) and that it may need a doctor's appointment for medical diagnosis, and then ask your husband whethers he's made an appointment ( as he is the one that has observed a symptom ,) or whether he wants you to make that appointment. Try not to run away and hide.

Whenthecriwdsayno · Today 09:33

I was worried thinking about you yesterday. I started to think that he was slowly leaving seeds to other people that you were a bad mum and couldn’t cope. I’m shocked that he belittled you in front of his family like that. Those questions are like accusations imagine if he said that in front of a health care individual.
Im happy to see that you are pushing back. Don’t stop.

flowertoday · Today 09:34

OP in the nicest way possible your partner sounds like an absolute bell end. Thoughtless, tactless dickhead.
I am another concerned poster - his behavior does not bode well. Humiliating you in front of his family members ( who should not be staying - how ridiculous when you need to rest and relax ) is abusive . He is likely to perpetrate further abuse as this is what abusive people do.
You will not fare well in the future unless you can consider your options soon.
Please don't waste your time on him unless he is prepared to shape up and become the partner and father you and your child deserve.

TheSandgroper · Today 09:37

@Aristocack please read my post above with the list of what should be your minimum expectations. He is treating you very badly because that’s what makes him happy.

Please, please ask your Mam if you can go to her and GO. Please go somewhere where you will be treated with love, care and attention. I know your Mam is working hard but if you can get 48 hours to find out how you should be cared for, it will do you a power of good.

Please don’t settle for this. Please leave. Please don’t have any more children with this man.

Topjoe19 · Today 09:38

ThreadGuardDog · Yesterday 20:52

To be honest I wouldn’t care what would happen. I would refuse to express and insist his family leave. He’s a selfish arse.

Well neither would I, but then I would be able to tell my DH no. I'm trying to ask the OP what her relationship is like, if she is able to say no to her DH.

Shortbreadel · Today 09:38

Sorry OP you're not in a healthy relationship.

TheSandgroper · Today 09:39

TheSandgroper · Today 04:33

Yes, he is gaslighting you.

He isn’t on paternity leave for a rest cure. He is there to support you. He should

Make sure you always have a drink at hand.

Tidy the changing station.
Wash and prep his own fucking feeding bottles. WTAF???
Cooking nutritious food that you can eat one handed.
Washing clothes for baby.
Possibly washing your clothes.
Stripping your bed, making it with fresh sheets.
Washing the dirty sheets.
Sweeping/vac floors.
Taking you all out for a little fresh air.
Making sure you and your gorgeous baby get to cuddle each other as much as you want. It’s how babies stay alive.

Telling you that you are the best thing since sliced bread in his life, he is very thankful, and proud of you.
THAT YOU ARE THE BEST MOTHER EVER.

If you’re not getting that, pack up and go to your Mam’s.

@Aristocack copying for you to read again.

LovingTheClassics · Today 09:40

Just read your latest update.
He's abusive op, he's got you trapped now with the baby and is being emotionally abusive.
Unfortunately it will only get worse, you need to leave.