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We want different things from his inheritance AIBU

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NotSureAboutThiss · Yesterday 20:57

DH and I have been together 20yrs+ with DC. Joint finances. He has received an inheritance that he wants to use to take early retirement. I don’t want to retire yet so will continue to work through choice. I would rather save the money for kids uni fees / help with house deposit and he continues to work. He thinks I ABU. What do you think? There isn’t really enough to do both so no compromise that I can see. His argument is that we have (small) savings already for the kids.

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ladylioness · Today 15:40

CinnamonJellyBeans · Today 15:13

He is a very useless lazy man

Taking all the money that someone worked all their life for, so he can spend the rest of his life sitting on his arse.

Why would you assume he would sit on his arse. Your comment says more about you than it does about him. I’m retired and busier now than when I was working.

VC10vTristar · Today 15:43

The idea of being given say £200,000 today and spending £20,000 each year for 10 years until there is nothing left just doesn’t sit well with me.

£200,000 invested well over 20 years could grow to £600,000….and probsbly still take the £20k pa as well…

ChapmanFarm · Today 15:44

Some extremely harsh reactions here that seem to lack full picture.

At the very least you both need to understand:

  • the impact on his pension projections (because these will be based on at least another 10 years contributions)
  • What is the impact if you get ill or can't work? Could this money support the whole household if you received a cancer diagnosis tomorrow?
  • what about capital projects. If the house needs a new roof, new windows, major repairs. Is this part of his financial planning and contingencies?

It might be his money but unless he can fund the above it very much impacts @NotSureAboutThiss and I fail to see how anyone would think it unreasonable to discuss it and come to a joint decision.

There are many options between work s job you dislike full time gor the next 15 years and never work again. But if you take time out of the workplace at his age and in current climate, getting back in isn't necessarily a choice you'll still have.

Denim4ever · Today 15:46

TruffleSlinky · Today 12:26

I think it's easy to say it's your money to do as you choose and no one can tell you otherwise, when you're choosing to do something really sensible. Why would your DH possibly object?! OP would be perfectly happy if her DH decided to do what you've done with yours. Some in savings and some towards DC's uni costs.

My DH would not presume to tell me what to do with my inheritance. Plus OPs DH hasn't made a very different choice.

AmnesiacDream · Today 15:47

Whaleandsnail6 · Today 09:09

But the point is, they don't have to have another decade of working life. The husband doesn't want to have another decade of working life, and has a solution of not having to do this.

Op wants to work... she likes it and benefits from it

Dh doesn't want to work. He has a solution for that, that doesn't negatively affect the rest of the family. He still contributes just as he was. Its just that the kids will have to finance more of their lives with dh plan than ops plan

His plan completely changes their lives. Even without the money aspect, if he retires now while OP continues to work it it will have a profound impact on their day to day.

But that's not really my point. My point is that going ahead with his plan is selfish. I'm not suggesting he should have to follow OP's plan, I'm pointing out that following any plan without considering OP is selfish. It is his money, but after a life time together I would be be horrified if my husband did not consider my hopes and dreams if he got such a windfall (just as I think I would be being selfish if I didn't consider his hopes and dreams).

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · Today 16:08

Seajaye · Today 06:41

Does he hate his job. Is a sabbatical year off something he could do instead as a compromise?

I think within .a marriage the decision and/ or choice to retire early from employment should be a joint one. If he can't draw down any pension it's not really retirement it's a decision to become unemployed. I'd focus on your disagreement over planned retirement dates and impact on Income if he stops work. I don't think it's a good idea to stop work prematurely.unless there's medical grounds or if you both agree that he can stay at home doing nothing much while you carry on working . I would stick to whatever retirement dates you had planned ., irrespective of the financial windfall he has received

The inheritance is capital. It can be spent or saved or gifted, and it's his windfall rather than yours, but I think any decision he makes about it shouldn't impact upon your future choices or your joint security. The choice to spend it to finance his period of unemployment is rather selfish if he doesn't have another proper reason why he shouldn't carry on working.
. If it is a very large amount does the interest on it cover the lost Income if he did give up work ? Could you see an independent financial advisor together to get some professional independent advice.?

Edited

He can drawdown on his work pension from age 55. He's that age now. He has the option of taking it out or leaving it there to continue to grow tax free and drawdown on his inheritance

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · Today 16:15

Felixthewonderdog · Today 07:21

55? He cant retire at 55

whats he going to do for the rest of his life?

This has to be one of the saddest posts I've read on Mumsnet . To not be able to imagine what life has to offer outside of work

Calliopespa · Today 16:20

NotSureAboutThiss · Today 15:31

@Purpleharlow you sound deranged.

That's a bit rude.

I think some posters think you do too, but they have stuck to more polite expression of the fact.

Billy47 · Today 16:23

NotSureAboutThiss · Yesterday 21:18

This is how I feel. In theory he could drawdown enough from the lump sum to still ‘contribute’ to the household pot for bills over 10yrs etc but there wouldn’t be a surplus to put into the kid’s savings.

I would rather we both continue to work (as planned) and tuck the money away for them. I get why people see it as his to decide but having had joint finances for so long now I feel that it should be a joint decision.

My H and I have joint finances.weve been together 16 years. He will inherit nothing. I will inherit at least 300k. My parents didn't work their whole life's for him to benefit from their money. I'll be damed if he thinks he's going to dictate where it goes. Oh also ,if is short. I was admitted to hoslital and in terrible condition 2 weeks ago. Im only 48 and
I was absolutely ready to die. Let him enjoy his life while he's physically able to. Your kids will inherit when its their time. As for uni costs they can cover it with loans and grants like a huge amount of the population.

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · Today 16:24

NotSureAboutThiss · Today 15:31

@Purpleharlow you sound deranged.

@Purpleharlow - from one Purple to another, please can I join you in the Deranged Corner?

RedToothBrush · Today 16:27

Billy47 · Today 16:23

My H and I have joint finances.weve been together 16 years. He will inherit nothing. I will inherit at least 300k. My parents didn't work their whole life's for him to benefit from their money. I'll be damed if he thinks he's going to dictate where it goes. Oh also ,if is short. I was admitted to hoslital and in terrible condition 2 weeks ago. Im only 48 and
I was absolutely ready to die. Let him enjoy his life while he's physically able to. Your kids will inherit when its their time. As for uni costs they can cover it with loans and grants like a huge amount of the population.

I think the most interesting part of this post is the lack of D in DH to merely H and the coldness that follows it.

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · Today 16:28

Billy47 · Today 16:23

My H and I have joint finances.weve been together 16 years. He will inherit nothing. I will inherit at least 300k. My parents didn't work their whole life's for him to benefit from their money. I'll be damed if he thinks he's going to dictate where it goes. Oh also ,if is short. I was admitted to hoslital and in terrible condition 2 weeks ago. Im only 48 and
I was absolutely ready to die. Let him enjoy his life while he's physically able to. Your kids will inherit when its their time. As for uni costs they can cover it with loans and grants like a huge amount of the population.

And to add. He's five years older than OP and statistically men die at an earlier age than women (I think it's about a four year difference). So on a pure statistical basis, if DH is to enjoy as many years of retirement as OP, he should be retiring nine years ahead of her 🤓

Calliopespa · Today 16:32

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · Today 16:15

This has to be one of the saddest posts I've read on Mumsnet . To not be able to imagine what life has to offer outside of work

I thought that too actually - and it came across as though the OP hasn't even bothered to ask him!

OP you are going to get a lot of strong reactions; that doesn't make them "deranged."

People will feel strongly because many posters will be thinking of leaving their own dc an inheritance (or nephews or whatever; not sure what relation this inheritance came from, but it doesn't really matter.) No-one planning to leave money to their chosen recipient wants to envisage the use of that money being commandeered by their spouse. If they had, they would leave it jointly.

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · Today 16:33

Pennyfan · Today 08:48

Are people really this sarcastic and mean to their spouses?

OP, is there room for compromise? Could he retire but reign in lifestyle a bit or see if self employment on his terms is a goer? Not everything revolves around children. The happiest adults I see aren’t ones where everything has been handed to them by their parents. So help, for sure but there must be leeway here. If your dh is unhappy where he is, could this be his opportunity to do something different? You are very fortunate anyway-mortgage paid off and decent pensions built up for the future.

If they are that vile to their husbands, it's time for the husbands to grow a backbone and LTB. No relationship,is worth putting up with that shit (well, I wouldn't put up with it)

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · Today 16:35

Livelovebehappy · Today 08:52

Use the inheritance to make your own lives better. My late mil sat on thousands in the bank living in an house that needed so much doing to it which would have enhanced her life, yet she wanted to save it. I’ve told my children they will inherit our house when we die with enough savings to pay for our funeral. The rest will be spent on enjoying ourselves and living our best lives before we go. I would of course help them out if needed, but otherwise they need to be self sufficient.

@Livelovebehappy - I like your username!

SweetnsourNZ · Today 16:38

InTheCludgie · Today 14:04

Agree with this. My DF died suddenly at 67, two years past retirement age but he kept working FT in a job with very unsociable hours, even though he financially was more than capable of retiring. Im already saving up to retire early cos fuck that, working until age 68.

I lost both my husband and brother to heart attacks this year. Ages 61 and 52.

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · Today 16:39

NotSureAboutThiss · Today 08:53

I’m not jealous @SandyY2K, I enjoy work. I think it keeps my body active and my mind sharp. I know people will jump on me to say well you can do those things in retirement too, but I think there is more to work than just the money.

I guess this is an added concern. I don’t want to retire for another 15(!) years. I know that could change but is it really healthy to be ‘pottering’ essentially alone all this time?

  1. why would he be 'pottering' - have you even spoken with him about his dreams for an active retirement?
  2. staying in a job you don’t like and want to walk out of (coupled with long hours and no option to go PT) can be deleterious for health
WhatNextImScared · Today 16:39

I think you’re in the right tbh. Especially if he doesn’t have a plan. He’s basically putting all the focus on uni years on your work plans. I’d actually be quite angry about his selfishness. Fine for him to have some time out, go part time or retrain. But retire? Seems lame.

Calliopespa · Today 16:42

Calliopespa · Today 16:32

I thought that too actually - and it came across as though the OP hasn't even bothered to ask him!

OP you are going to get a lot of strong reactions; that doesn't make them "deranged."

People will feel strongly because many posters will be thinking of leaving their own dc an inheritance (or nephews or whatever; not sure what relation this inheritance came from, but it doesn't really matter.) No-one planning to leave money to their chosen recipient wants to envisage the use of that money being commandeered by their spouse. If they had, they would leave it jointly.

I mean, to build on that, let's just put this a bit differently.

Imagine your DH does agree to keep working, and so do you, and you hit your target of whatever it is you feel you need to set your dc up with a house deposit, as you plan. You will have worked hard for that. Much is invested in it for you emotionally as well as financially.

Let's now imagine your DC is delighted, is keen to apply that to a house purchase. However, their spouse is a keen equestrian. She believes the very best thing for their dc would be to continue renting the property they are in which has stables and facilities for horses they could not afford with your house deposit. The house deposit she says, could be put to good use buying and maintaining horses, plus a new horse float.

My point is, if you have given it to your dc, it just isn't her place to decide she can think of a different plan.

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · Today 16:44

Anxioustealady · Today 09:22

I think he's selfish and lazy. If I received an inheritance I would go on a family holiday, buy a expensive coat and use the rest to pay down the mortgage (I'm in my 30s), so all shared with my family (except the nice coat lol). 50 is so young to retire, what's he going to do with his life? Is he likely to take on most of the cooking and cleaning? I wouldn't like to have someone sat around for decades while I worked and did housework.

I think if you are able to retire early, it's nice to go at the same time as your spouse.

She doesn't want to retire. She wants to work for another 15 years

C0ttonCandySwirl · Today 16:45

When someone passes away it changes your perspective on life.

I have also worked with people that did not live to state retirement age.

Perhaps your DH is fed up of working & wants to enjoy his life while he is young & healthy

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · Today 16:48

PaintMeLikeYourFrenchGulls · Today 09:45

Sorry, I’ve just seen that you have answered that.

When her husband is 70 😬

Calliopespa · Today 16:54

SweetnsourNZ · Today 16:38

I lost both my husband and brother to heart attacks this year. Ages 61 and 52.

Yes, it does bring perspective doesn't it.

Newname26 · Today 16:57

SweetnsourNZ · Today 16:38

I lost both my husband and brother to heart attacks this year. Ages 61 and 52.

Thats a sobering though.
I hope you have lots of support around you.

This is MN where everyone expects to be a healthy 80 year old, out playing golf and going to lunch.
Reality just isn't like that for many.

rightoguvnor · Today 16:58

I wouldn’t agree that uni costs should be paid in full but certainly it would be nice to avoid as much debt as possible for them. I think I would make a choice between uni debt and a decent house deposit each. But that’s by the by. The bigger issue is the retirement question.
if we look at the working years where pension contributions are made, He’s retiring possibly a quarter earlier than expected. Will he continue to pay into his pension? If not, then once the inheritance money runs out then his pension will be rather smaller than expected.
Id be more supportive if there were an actual plan for his retirement. I can kind of imagine you in a year’s time going batty because he’s always stuck around the house. If he had a particular skill that he might monetise on a self employed part time basis then I’d be more supportive.
Does his retirement look like him realising things that YOU might have thought were joint dreams? I’d be pissed off with that.
I’m not anti retiring early. I’ve lost 3 family members in their 60s, before they’d had a chance to make bloody good use of their pension funds and I think this makes you feel like life is too short etc etc. I’m encouraging DH to take the tax free element of his pension when he turns 60 next year, and use some of it to subsidise six months off work fulfilling one of his dreams (that I don’t share). But then he’ll return to work and will continue to make his pension contributions throughout. It won’t affect our joint plans though or our future finances. And our dc are older and settled.