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We want different things from his inheritance AIBU

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NotSureAboutThiss · Yesterday 20:57

DH and I have been together 20yrs+ with DC. Joint finances. He has received an inheritance that he wants to use to take early retirement. I don’t want to retire yet so will continue to work through choice. I would rather save the money for kids uni fees / help with house deposit and he continues to work. He thinks I ABU. What do you think? There isn’t really enough to do both so no compromise that I can see. His argument is that we have (small) savings already for the kids.

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C8H10N4O2 · Today 10:33

BIossomtoes · Today 10:23

You don’t say how old you are. I was absolutely done by the time I was 61 and called it a day the month after my 62nd birthday. Your bloke has my sympathy.

But did you stop work without a discussion? Plus in the OP's case it is more than a decade early rather than a couple of years early which has a much greater impact on final pension income than just 2-3 years early.

I would never have considered taking early retirement without that discussion and ensuring it didn't have a negative effect on DH.

NotSureAboutThiss · Today 10:38

@UnwillingAdvocate I don’t feel “entitled” to his inheritance. If I felt entitled to the money I would be telling him how it would be spent.

It’s complicated and whilst I have sympathy with those who have experienced unexpected and young losses, I’m not living life on the basis it could all be over tomorrow. I’m a planner and a saver and I’m cautious. The idea of being given say £200,000 today and spending £20,000 each year for 10 years until there is nothing left just doesn’t sit well with me.

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MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · Today 10:39

NotSureAboutThiss · Yesterday 21:10

@Cosimarocks we have paid off our mortgage so fairly fortunate. To answer all your questions I would need to see a financial advisor but is his job dull? Yes! Has he worked hard? Also yes. Does that mean I want him to bridge the financial gap for 10 yrs using this lump sum so he can do… I don’t know what? No. I think he should continue to work and save the cash.

I have thought about him dropping down to p/t but in his industry that isn’t really an option that is very common at all.

Woah, this would be a deal breaker for me, something I wouldn't be able to get past. I mean , a life changing sum of money enabling me to retire a few years early when slagging away in along hours job with no prospect of part time

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · Today 10:43

NotSureAboutThiss · Yesterday 21:21

Even though finances have been joint for 20+ yrs? I have no say at all? Really?

Well, given that inheritances aren't generally included as joint assets in the event of a divorce (though there are some exceptions), the inheritance will likely remain DH's, irrespective of whether your marriage continues

Superscientist · Today 10:43

My partner inherited money unexpectedly earlier this year. It's his money and at the end of the day it is up to him what he chooses to do with it and I would respect what he decided but we have discussed the pros and cons of various situations together. Even if he did/does something I wouldn't have done I feel appreciative that he has included me in the discussion.

For me the he is not being unreasonable to want to spend the money on retirement but I feel that he is being unreasonable in making that a unilateral decision.

My partner has made the decision to invest/save the money and in the short term used the interest to supplement our lifestyle and keep our longer term savings in a good position whilst I am out of work looking after our children (1 and 6). In the longer term he plans to pay off the mortgage which will allow him to have longer term financial security and allow him to continue in his chosen career that can come with instability and will allow him to retire early.

For me, using the money to retire early and using the money to retire right now are too slightly different questions. I think I would discuss with him not making any big decisions right now, as you have said, if he did leave work and decide he has made a mistake he might find it difficult to re-enter the workforce again. I think I would look to see what can be done to make the money work for the family over the next 12-24 months. Could the interest on the money be used to future plan for the children transition into adulthood? Then him using the initial pot to retire in the next 2-5 years.

AnonyMumAuDHD · Today 10:43

Your NU to have expected DH to share your values and want to prioritise the DC’s future, but you are being at least a bit U for not recognising that this is DH’s money ultimately or - more importantly - for not exploring with him just how unhappy he is in work?

My DH was still happy working at 50 and even 55, but the economic and political climate of the last 2-3 years means that the toll of working at such high intensity stress-wise and often longer hours as he is now more senior as been huge. For the first time in nearly 35 years is he tired, flat, irritable and - I suspect - a bit depressed. He’d retire tomorrow if they offered redundancy and paid him enough to last until his pension can be drawn. Mid to late fifties is when men are at risk of MH issues. Physical health also begins to decline at this stage.

I think you need to park the discussion about his inheritance for now and actually talk to your husband about how and why he feels the way he does, whether he needs a well-man/post 50 medical to check on his physical health, and if there are steps you can take as a couple to mitigate things you identify together. Perhaps he might like to feel you prioritise him over the children for once: a discussion about his needs and offering real support, rather than demanding that the money he sees an escape route be ring-fenced entirely for the children, may be long overdue?

BunnyLake · Today 10:46

34567890A · Yesterday 20:59

So you want his inheritance to go to the children? Why didn't the children inherit instead of your DH then?

OP wasn’t the one writing the will?

its2346 · Today 10:47

Similar situation here. Together for 30 years but we’ve always struggled. Our parents have helped often with some of our child related costs. Children are now teens. DH will receive an inheritance and wants to use it to develop our house - he has dreamed of developing property.

We haven’t had the discussion yet, but if he thinks having a grander house is more important than our retirement, or being self-reliant, or our children’s future, then I will lose a LOT of respect for him. It could be marriage defining.

I have no idea what our children face in the future, but I imagine they will struggle to buy homes, clear student debts, start families, and who the hell knows how AI will impact job prospects. There is no way I could enjoy a nice house knowing we could have helped them have easier lives in the way our parents have helped us when we’ve needed it.

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · Today 10:49

NotSureAboutThiss · Today 08:53

I’m not jealous @SandyY2K, I enjoy work. I think it keeps my body active and my mind sharp. I know people will jump on me to say well you can do those things in retirement too, but I think there is more to work than just the money.

I guess this is an added concern. I don’t want to retire for another 15(!) years. I know that could change but is it really healthy to be ‘pottering’ essentially alone all this time?

You enjoy work, your husband doesn't - as you said in an earlier pos: DH does not feel the same and he wants to walk.

BunnyLake · Today 10:53

@NotSureAboutThiss Can at least some of the money be put aside to help towards deposits for the kids and the rest can fund his retirement? This seems like a reasonable compromise.

Most kids have to deal with uni fees so I wouldn’t particularly prioritise that. Help towards house deposits are more important.

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · Today 10:54

BunnyLake · Today 10:46

OP wasn’t the one writing the will?

The point being that had the testator wanted the estate to go to DH's children (and assuming the testator is closely related to DH), they would have bequeathed the estate to the children. They haven't. They wanted it to go to DH for DH to do with as he sees fit

Wonkydonkey44 · Today 10:55

If I lost a member of my family who must have been close to leave me a large sum of money then I would hope I could make my own decisions into how it was spent rather than being bullied into giving it away .
may be he’s sick of the 9-5 slog , I’m 54 and I know I am . I would love to inherit enough to leave and enjoy living again instead of having to work more hours than am paid and more stress than is fair.
is your mortgage paid off ? No outstanding debt? If the answer to those is yes then leave him alone . Let him have the freedom of choice or I guarantee he will resent you.

Soontobe60 · Today 10:55

GreenFries · Today 08:51

I would find this a selfish way of acting if my DH did this, especially given your age difference and the fact he'll be retiring long before you. Unless either of you have a desperately stressful job... Either he does in which case I can understand him wanting to retire, or you do, and him being at home would ease your load.

I'd definitely expect some to be invested to benefit our DC, as like you, I think that generation have it harder than we did.

Can you ask your DH to see a financial adviser before he makes any lasting decisions? Perhaps there is a compromise where some is invested.

I guess we all have that fantasy of winning a large sum of money and being able to just not go into work ever again and to be free to do what you want with your time. But the reality of doing nothing and the reality of how long the money lasts often does not match up.

If you look at the number of working years instead of who retires early, it’s likely to even itself out. Retiring at the same time is only completely fair if you’re both the same age.

Freeme31 · Today 10:55

What is being asked of you is scary and unknown especially if you are a cautious person. However, the age difference is something to consider you should take financial advice it may not be as scary as you think. Firstly the first £12k is tax free. He will only need to fill the gap between age 55 and 67 when he will receive state pension also he will be able to take his work pension from 55 years old. I suggest you agree to him doing this as sometimes taking a leap of faith is not so bad just because your scared. Your children will also learn more from making their own way/choices/decisions in life and you will have a happier marriage in the end.

Newname26 · Today 10:57

Op how old are your kids?
At those ages they could be as young as primary school age with 10 years old school in front of them before uni is even though about.

If anything happened to you is there enough money to support him and the kids while he puts his feet up?

I agree 55 is young to retire while you still have dependant children. I'd say he works until kids are both 18.

Crazy though if you divorced technically he'd have no income to claim CSA on.

BunnyLake · Today 10:59

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · Today 10:54

The point being that had the testator wanted the estate to go to DH's children (and assuming the testator is closely related to DH), they would have bequeathed the estate to the children. They haven't. They wanted it to go to DH for DH to do with as he sees fit

Yes I know. It was a stupid question when they could have just written that.

Gengha · Today 11:02

NotSureAboutThiss · Yesterday 21:21

Even though finances have been joint for 20+ yrs? I have no say at all? Really?

My husband inherited some money a while back and while he did use it to pay off our mortgage I knew it was really down to him, although I can’t deny I’d have felt peeved if he hadn’t 🤷‍♀️ would you expect him to dictate what you did with an inheritance? We also have shared finances but certainly where I am in the UK, inheritances aren’t matrimonial property.

I think it is up to him but equally it’s a bit selfish of him

cheezncrackers · Today 11:05
  1. IMO it should be a carefully considered, joint decision, not a kneejerk, emotionally driven decision made by one half of the couple. You are a financial unit. You need to make financial decisions together in a clear-headed, dispassionate way, ideally with advice from a financial advisor.
  2. I wouldn't be giving up a decent, though dull job in this current financial/jobs climate. If he regrets his decision in five years, like @AmicaNemica's DH does, he almost certainly won't be able to get back into the workforce at 60, having taken a break.
  3. Unless he has health issues, 55 is very young to be quitting work. Did his father die young? The average life expectancy for men in the UK is 79, but if he's MC and in good health he's likely to live much longer than that. All the men in my family have lived to at least 80, even with Parkinsons.
  4. Many men in retirement are at a bit of a loose end and unlike women who keep up with friends and have lots of interests they lose a big part of themselves when they lose their professional self. So what would he do with his time? Is he a keen golfer, gardener, tennis player or something else? Does he have friends and, if so, are they retired? I understand that a big pile of money sitting in an account makes it hugely tempting to say 'Fuck it! I can afford to retire now!', but that takes us back to point (1). This should not be a kneejerk, emotionally led decision. A successful, happy and, above all, financially secure retirement takes careful thought and planning.
NotSureAboutThiss · Today 11:05

@Wonkydonkey44 I am not bullying him, the very suggestion is laughable.

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Boomer55 · Today 11:06

Octavia64 · Yesterday 21:13

I mean you basically want him to give it all away to his kids.

i can see why he doesn’t want to give it all away.

i have had an inheritance and I think it would have killed me to give it all away and have nothing for myself,

No, a bit unreasonable. When I inherited I gave both my adult kids enough to pay off their mortgages. They were long finished education.

But, I also cushioned myself and DH against care costs - we could pay, so we could choose.

My grandkids had a little help through uni, but they worked part time, and more or less sorted themselves out. As was the usual way.

Your DH wants to retire early, and that’s fair enough.

You own a house, and assuming no care needs, your kids will inherit in due course..

Lemonandlimetrees · Today 11:08

We've always had joint finances and I would also feel torn as to whether this money (or some of it) should be considered joint. The main thing though is that this decision is not rushed and you can both come to terms with it afterwards. Can you ask him to agree he won't hand in his notice for at least, say, 12 months. Then use that time to both research fully: see how easy it would be to live on his lower income from the inheritance, fully explore PT possibilities (even when not the norm in an industry, employers can be interested in retaining experienced staff at a lower cost), explore whether anything else could change for him work wise to make it more palatable even with reduced income, check the student loan thresholds against reduced income (there may be considerable advantages to reducing family income whilst more than one child is studying), what he would DO, whether there are options for you both to retire just a few years early.

I retired at 59 & my DH at 60 and we love it, but we both have creative hobbies. I couldn't imagine retiring on my own without a plan. It's best when retirement is something you walk towards rather than walking (or running) away from something into the unknown, just because you can.

Netcurtainnelly · Today 11:09

It's his inheritance, so he should decide.

Purpleharlow · Today 11:09

I’ve read a few comments and all of yours OP.

You’ve really annoyed me tbh. Your entitlement to money THAT ISN’T YOURS is staggering.

How dare you think you even have a say on what he does with it? How dare you want it to bypass him and go to your kids?!

Please answer because I’m dying to know just how you dare?

The barefaced cheek of you. Thinking you have the right to even try and dictate what he does with it 😂 You shouldn’t even have an opinion.

seven201 · Today 11:10

Could he take a one year sabbatical? Then re-assess?

I'm with you, i’d want to save most of it for the kids.

Winter2020 · Today 11:13

It might ultimately be up to your husband what he does with his inheritance but I would tell him that I will resent it if I am working full time and trying to support children at uni while he ekes out his inheritance to have the maximum amount of years doing nothing.

I think you should ask him for compromise - so he goes part time or changes sectors to something he will enjoy more. If he agrees to earn even £1000 each month and throw that in the pot as well as him monthly contribution from the inheritance an extra £1000 will go a good way towards helping kids at uni (depending how many are there at once and whether means testing leaves them with the minimum or maximum maintenance loan).