What would the Left call the Right, if the small boat people were white?

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I'll start by saying, I am very anti open boarders, and I am horrified that so many illegal immigrants are arriving every day. But for me, it has absolutely nothing to do with skin colour, it is more to do with :

ONE) They have no documentation, and we have no idea if they have criminal backgrounds

TWO) They tend to come from cultures where women are not respected

THREE) They often come from places where rape is not a crime

FOUR) They cannot work, and it is costing Millions to house, feed and clothe them

FIVE) We are granting asylum to some people who should never get it - like the Hamas bodyguard we heard of yesterday

Lots of valid reasons I feel, however, for me, it has nothing to do with skin colour. If I had to be locked in a room overnight with a white man from a backward culture, or a black man from the UK, I would choose the latter, every single time.

It isn't colour, it's culture

But I see that people on the Far Left just scream "Racist" to anyone who opposes illegal immigration. What would they scream, if all the small boats were full of white men? And would people still march for England?

Are you being racist?

And the UK has changed and moved on since then.......

Yep it’s unreal.

It baffles me as well . because things are bad here the fact things are even worse and horrific and at rates we can't fathom in other nations isn't an issue

And so counterproductive for those on the left, because it’s encouraging people to vote for parties on the right who tell the truth about this stuff.

Clearly im not. Im stating it would be double standards to welcome one but not the other. Anyone fleeing war or danger needs help.

What if one group comes in and instead of being happy that they are protected and safe,.they instead murder and assault people?

So many sweeping statements here, it’s hard to know where to start.

I’m on the left but I don’t call ordinary Conservatives racists. I do reserve that term for, well, racists really, if they identify themselves by racism. They could be from left or right in terms of their beliefs about economics.

I’m on the left but I am not in favour of open borders allowing massive numbers of people to emigrate here. But thankfully that isn’t happening. What is happening is that a dwindling number of people are being exploited by smugglers. This situation is hampered by Brexit.

I am on the left but it’s obvious that people with unknown credentials coming here isn’t desirable. It is treacherous and horrifying for them and potentially dangerous for us. But the truth is, they are arriving and need support on arrival. They need housing humanely and securely and they need to be considered for their asylum seeker status individually and swiftly.

I do believe there are elements of racism and xenophobia at play from SOME people who picket, demonstrate and flag fly. It’s interesting to compare the reaction with when Ukrainian people came here as most of them are white. However, equally, there are people who are opposed to the small boat people with a variety of other concerns. I do have sympathy for people from deindustrialised parts of the country and coastal parts where the quality of life isn’t good. I think that blaming the small boat people for this is erroneous but I can understand their pain.

I am very opposed to this line drawing and diversion which does nothing but create misery. Don’t fall for it. In short, the small boats ARE a problem for all concerned but the British do well under duress: the blitz, numerous weather events and Covid for instance. We need to be demonstrating that spirit now not exchanging insults because Twitter tells us to. Imagine the good we could do if we weren’t all unpaid employees of tech companies! 😔

The left have lost the plot though. They are feminists until lefty Herberts come along and tell the far right they are fascists and shouldn't be gender critical. When we get into race and religion, the left are still left scratching their heads when they have to decide if white Ukranians are as equalling deserving of sympathy as brown Palestinians. It must be exhausting being a virtuous leftie.

But they dont

Hope your political mates get the memo.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm2g97nv36go

I'm not comparing at all. I'm simply stating that we don't generally prosecute people for rape in this country either, so let's be honest about that as well.

Please can you show me the statistics that show that in areas where there are high numbers of single male asylum seekers, there is no increased risk of crime - including serious sexual crimes.

And the same people who moan most about immigrants also moan about how much the UK has changed socially..

First of all, not feeding into the hysteria and misinformation propaganda campaign about 'small boat people' (who are less than 1% of all immigrants) does not make anybody 'the Left.'

Your whole OP is fundamentally racist. Ascribing characteristics based on somebody's nation, culture or ethnic group is racist. The very definition of racism in fact.

The government or regime or culture within a country should not characterise all the individuals of that country. Funnily enough those in power will not be fleeing.

And as to your question about being locked in a room with 5 British men, or 5 Afghans, I literally couldn't care less. Depends on which British and which Afghans.

Shame on you OP.

I would call you a nazi.

And the ‚right‘ that you talk about are exactly that, if it’s not ‚boat people‘ then they’ll move onto other groups - those who settled in the uk a long time ago but come from ‚different cultures‘, then maybe we’ll circle back to Eastern Europeans and eventually the disabled or any one at all who is not like them. As Germany one hundred years ago showed, eventually they come for all, unless you support them. Doesn’t sound very democratic to me.

It is but it’s worth it.

The left has chosen illegal immigration as their hill to die on. So it must be reinforced by accusing people who don't agree with it to be accused of a crime which is racism to deflect from the crime actually committed. When I worked in the prison system some 20 years ago, there were always foreigners being deported who had come to the country illegally. That doesn't happen anymore.

Deary me you thought you had a point there didn't you?

Your whole post is a comparison. There's no " simply stating " about it.

What do you mean political mates.

Swedish government and Brå (National Council for Crime Prevention) data have repeatedly shown overrepresentation of foreign-born individuals (and especially those from certain MENA/Africa origin groups) in rape and violent crime statistics. After the 2015 migrant wave, studies and official reports documented higher rates of sexual offences linked to asylum seekers/refugees from high-risk regions. Native Swedes (predominantly white) have lower rates. Multiple analyses (including by researchers using Brå data) find foreign-born suspects several times more likely to be registered for rape relative to their population share.

Are you sure about that third para, last line.

Britain granted asylum and citizenship status to a former bodyguard to the leader of Hamas, it has been reported.

Named only as Mr X for legal reasons, he then allegedly plotted an anti-Semitic terrorist attack before the second anniversary of the Oct 7 massacre, according to the Sunday Times.

So I boil down the issues into bite sized, truthful positions. It's not unsophisticated to point out facts.

There is a simple solution. We adopt the Australian model of immigration. We decline all asylum seekers who enter the country illegally and impose stricter criteria on those we accept and limit the number of "dependent" family members of those we do accept. Definitely do the same for student visas also