What would the Left call the Right, if the small boat people were white?

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I'll start by saying, I am very anti open boarders, and I am horrified that so many illegal immigrants are arriving every day. But for me, it has absolutely nothing to do with skin colour, it is more to do with :

ONE) They have no documentation, and we have no idea if they have criminal backgrounds

TWO) They tend to come from cultures where women are not respected

THREE) They often come from places where rape is not a crime

FOUR) They cannot work, and it is costing Millions to house, feed and clothe them

FIVE) We are granting asylum to some people who should never get it - like the Hamas bodyguard we heard of yesterday

Lots of valid reasons I feel, however, for me, it has nothing to do with skin colour. If I had to be locked in a room overnight with a white man from a backward culture, or a black man from the UK, I would choose the latter, every single time.

It isn't colour, it's culture

But I see that people on the Far Left just scream "Racist" to anyone who opposes illegal immigration. What would they scream, if all the small boats were full of white men? And would people still march for England?

A large part of Nazi propaganda was to propagate fear of Jews as sexual predators and a 'truth' that German women were not safe around them. Far too many German women actually internalised this and look where that led.

The KKK used the same insidious tactics against black people - people were encouraged to see them as innately animalistic, sexual predators and a threat to white women.

If only everyone could learn from history instead of passing a vote to ostracise Jews - again.

I'm sorry to quote this, but it's from Mein Kampf:

"With satanic joy in his face, the black-haired Jewish youth lurks in wait for the unsuspecting girl whom he defiles, thus stealing her from her people. With every means he tries to destroy the racial foundations of the people he has set out to subjugate."

Sound familiar? Let this be a warning.

Because after the Far Right succeed in propagating as 'truth' similarly vile sentiments against Muslims in the U.K, who and what would be next?

Yes it's a question, who will be next when they've done with the Jews?

Well they will go after the Jews, yes. It's the same old politics of hate and division - Muslims or Jews, take your pick. They will no doubt turn people against LGBT people. Maybe the disabled. What next? Abortion clinics? And as AI drastically reduces the amount of jobs available, there could well be a Far Right propaganda-campaign about 'family values' to idealise 'a woman's place in the home', just as there was in the post-war era when they needed women out of the workplace to free up employment for men returning from war. It's happened before, it could happen again.

Yes, the hard left already go after those groups, as well as the Islamic extremists.

Don't follow any extremists would be my advice. Stop doing their work online. And stop othering whole cultures as sexual predators. It's the Far Right playbook.

Take your own advice when you other women.

Yep.

Exactly.

You don't seem to have learned from history what Islamism is, or how Jews are always the scapegoats.

Exactly what? You’d like to keep the crossings as they are?

Seriously, who on this thread has justified this?

Antisemitism has been a common thene on bith the xenophobic right and the extreme left. We don't have to choose between them. We can reject both.

I look through words.

And?

Othering women? I am a woman.

Try to think about why politicians want you to think in polarised terms - that you must identify with one "omniculture" or the other.

Think about why the most powerful Far Right aligned people are only interested in women's rights when in can be used as a proxy for an anti-immigration stance. When did it be impossible for two things to be true at once - or multiple things to be true all at once? Who benefits from this polarisation. What are women being distracted from while chanting "Muslim man in boat bad."

Elon Musk et al could do so much for women. He could make the internet so much safer for children. These big tech companies could ban porn tomorrow if they were concerned about women. They manufacture rage about this 1% of men coming by boat, but where is the rage about the global sex trafficking industry in which women and children are smuggled across borders all the time? No, nothing to say about that, they just provide the online platforms for the content.

I didn't say that, nor did the pp I quoted.

I agreed with her that xenophobia oftei involves treating out-groups as particular threats to women.

If you want to start a thread about Israel and this is your underlying agenda, start one. This thread was about migrants arriving in boats.

Hmm, my anti-Zionist Jewish refugee grandparents would probably disagree. I think they’d be more offended by the dehumanising and ‘othering’ anti-migrant language on this thread

What do you want to happen?

Apart from accusing women with more of the same.

I’ve learned the huge dangers of making sweeping generalisations about groups of people.

And yes, the sex trafficking industry, the porn industry, the frequent sexual abuse of children, all forms of domestic violence, grooming gangs od ALL sorts, the reactionary nature of the religiouw right (including but not limited to Islamism). the increasing opportunities that social media and AI give for abuse of women ans children- all of these are terrifying problems and need to be dealt with.

You put that extremely well and you’re spot on. We used to say “divide and conquer “

I mean, even if these issues weren't already obviously enough related, one of the people who arrived on a small boat last week was a Hamas bodyguard. Do try to keep up.