AIBU to tell my daughter to report a flatmate's mother?

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Dd went to university a couple of weeks ago. She is setting in well and likes her flatmates.
Unfortunately there seems to be a problem with one of them. She is an international student and her mum came over to help settle her in, all fine.
BUT
The mum is still there, sleeping in the same room as the daughter.
The rest of them are getting increasingly annoyed as she's just there and as she doesn't speak any English it's difficult to ask what her plans are.
When dd moved in her contract said that she wasn't allowed any overnight guests to stay more than 2 consecutive nights.
Its been 2 weeks!
I've told them to go to student housing/ welfare and say something. Maybe they can do something?
Surely at the very least it's a safety issue if there was a fire or something as this woman isn't supposed to be there?
The rest of them dont want to get this girl and her mum into trouble but if the mums visa runs out surely that's worse?
I know I can't do anything but how do I get through to dd?

I agree. Sometimes people just do not get that cultural norms are different elsewhere and that you just cannot speak to parents the way people speak to parents here. Just imagine a Chinese, indian or African teenager telling their parent, 'You cannot stay here, you must find accommodation elsewhere!'. The mother staying was probably never even a discussion, she just stayed and that was it. Anyway, thank God its over.

It’s good to hear that it’s all sorted, OP. She should not have stayed there even for one night.

I do feel for her on some level though. Sounds to me like she’s just a mum who is really struggling with her child moving thousands of miles away. Of course it doesn’t excuse the situation.

U.K. born *DM spend about a month with their DD in her flat share in the US so it does happen with (some) UK parents when their offspring are overseas. No different. It was annoying but eventually she left!

*edited to add DM

It used to be that many British Universities taught Russian, but so many departments have now closed. Glasgow and Strathclyde eventually combined, I believe. When I was a student, Glasgow had the Department of Slavonic Languages and Literatures plus the Department of Slavic Studies. (The latter dealt with politics - I might have misremembered the precise title.)

The first time I went to the Soviet Union was for a one month Russian course at Kuban' State University - there were more than 70 UK students and and also a similar number of Greek Students.

There was a SovScot Society at one point and they had a linked organisation which organised holidays to Russia - I've forgotten the precise nomenclature. Sputnik Travel used to organise courses for students, but they might also have run the holiday company.

I think it was Thompson's that used to run holidays to Moscow - they used the old Rossiya Hotel.

Regulations were strict at that time: we weren't allowed to travel outside the city where we were staying fo university, unless on an official excursion.

My last trip was a British Council exchange to Leningrad (as it then was) for three months. I can tell you that the plane from Healthrow to Moscow was nearly full of students who were mainly moving onward from Moscow to another destination for three months.

One of the busiest unis for international students was actually Voronezh - a lot of the Glasgow boys used to go there.

Re: social norms.

I recall that one time a British student said "Thank you " after asking for the salt. The Russian who'd just passed it to him said, "Why? What did I do?"

Yes suing is an option if you are a party to the contract. Landlord- Chinese student.

the poster suggested the other residents would sue the landlord for breach of the Chinese students contract.

I didn't. Their own tenancy agreement includes the communal areas, which this non-tenant is using.

You assume

OP already stated there's a language issue!

A tourist visa is valid for up to 6 months

If this were the case every single mother or father of a Chinese student would be living with their adult kids at uni.

I'm quite impressed that there is room for more than one person to lie down! Ds's room is too tiny. I wonder if the student has had to sleep on the floor.

3/4 beds 4ft were standard in DD’s Scottish uni halls so I can see how 2 females could share especially if petite.
Great news it’s all resolved.

Sounds like a very sensible and grown up approach from your daughter and the other students, I'm glad to hear that the daughter is going with them.

When I actually commented it wasn’t clear the issue was both of them. Also it’s hardly technical language. ‘Your mum. How long will she stay here? When will she go to …… country. Hardly rocket science.

Right so now you’ve decided it’s about communal areas- can you actually specify what you think the other students can sue their landlord for because someone who isn’t a tenant is using communal spaces? Or was it just a musing, because if so it’s not worth putting the energy into and either way, it def won’t happen

Maybe get your facts correct? We don't pay for foreign students!! They pay us!

Sounds like they’ve done that girl a massive favour. Well done them! Hope it all goes well for them all from here on.

Some do - lot's don't

It has nothing to do with her race and everything to do with fire safety laws and basic boundaries.
Firefighters rely on official room logs to rescue people in a blaze. If the building catches fire, emergency services won't know she's inside.
An occasional guest is one thing, someone's mother illegally squatting in a student flat for two weeks is entirely different. She is freeloading off utilities the paying flatmates fund, violating a legal tenancy agreement, and forcing students to live with a random parent.
Reporting a massive boundary violation isn't xenophobia, it's common sense.🙄

If you read the thread you’ll see the fire safety argument has been debunked several times. There are certainly no laws around it either

I love this idea that when there's a fire that the fire brigade only look for people who are "logged" as being in the building rather than sweeping every room systematically.

The way some people's minds work.

Good that she seems to have gone. It's a breach of contract having her living there.

Yep and when they’ve found them all they leave and let the fire burn.

or alternatively, they keep looking and looking and looking for the resident whose having a weekend in Ibiza 🤣

I mean surely it’s obvious it doesn’t work like that?!

So why are guests asked to sign in when they are staying over in uni accommodation? Glad you think mocking other people is hilarious btw.

They’re not at the universities I visit, so if you have seen some you need to sign in for probably best to ask them