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AIBU to tell my neighbour’s Year 6 child to stop walking to school with us?

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Msjamtoast · Yesterday 10:13

I have two children, one in Year 4 and one in Reception. Every morning I walk them to school.
For the past two weeks, a neighbour’s Year 6 child has been coming along with us every morning. Our children know each other and sometimes play together locally, but the parents and I have never actually spoken. When the children play together, the parents don’t usually come out, so we’ve never met or had any arrangement about walking to school together.
The child told my Year 4 child that his mum had said it was dangerous for him to walk to school alone and that he should walk with us.
I’m uncomfortable with this. I’m already responsible for my two children, including a Reception child, and I don’t want to take responsibility for another family’s child.
If his parents feel he isn’t safe walking to school alone, I feel they should make their own arrangements rather than relying on us.
Would you tell the child he needs to make his own arrangements, or just let him continue walking with us?
Has anyone else experienced something similar with a neighbour’s child joining your school run?

OP posts:
Myselforsomeonelikeme · Yesterday 16:35

Definitely speak to the parents rather than the child. He may be covering for uninterested parents and then it would be a shame to stop him walking with you if he feels safer

MissyB1 · Yesterday 16:36

RedToothBrush · Yesterday 16:23

This.

It's not the kids fault.

You are not happy with the responsibility, tell them.

If he continues to walk with you after this, stop and tell him to walk by himself and you will be speaking to the school.

What did I just read?! That OP should tell the poor kid thst he's not allowed to walk on the same pavement in the same direction as OP and her kids at the same time as them? Or she will get him into trouble at school? She doesn't own the pavement! And if she has a pop at him for chatting to her kids that would be just nasty.

Ilovelurchers · Yesterday 16:38

Just to be clear, does he actually cause a problem on the walk (is he cheeky or a pain or argues with your kids or whatever). Or is it just a feeling of responsibility for him you don't like?

If he is polite and friendly on the walk I would let him join. I mean, what is the alternative - turn and snarl at him and forbid him to be near you?

Just make it clear to him if he mentions anything that you aren't responsible for him if anything happens.

I think it's quite sweet that he wants to walk with your younger child, to be fair. And nice for your kid to have a friend in an older year group. Providing he is a nice kid and a decent role model.

Deathinvegas · Yesterday 16:38

A 10 year old likes and wants to walk to school with your child.
The child is old enough to be responsible for himself, the only person who has said your responsibility for him is you.
What are you going to do force him to walk 3 paces behind or in front of you or does he have to cross to the over side of the road?

TicklishReader · Yesterday 16:38

KilkennyCats · Yesterday 16:34

Imagine being that kid.
Having your friend’s mum knock on your door to tell your parents to keep you away from them on the school run. And then tell you this to your face, alongside a threat to report to the school (!) should you dare to speak to your friend as you pass by thereafter.
You’d wonder how some people were actually raised themselves, that they’d think this was in any way the act of a reasonable person.

DS1 would have thought I had lost the plot if I told his friend to politely fuck off.

Timeforachange26 · Yesterday 16:39

KilkennyCats · Yesterday 16:34

Imagine being that kid.
Having your friend’s mum knock on your door to tell your parents to keep you away from them on the school run. And then tell you this to your face, alongside a threat to report to the school (!) should you dare to speak to your friend as you pass by thereafter.
You’d wonder how some people were actually raised themselves, that they’d think this was in any way the act of a reasonable person.

It's pretty poor.

Timeforachange26 · Yesterday 16:44

Anotherdayofrain · Yesterday 11:04

That's exactly how they do it. They don't let the child out unless a parent or an other named adult it there to pick them up.

And how does that ensure they are walked in? I used to drop mine off at back gate and could see her go in by time id turned that car. But no way of school knowing id down that and she hadn't walked

Teenytinypineapple · Yesterday 16:46

Msjamtoast · Yesterday 11:19

Thank you for all the replies, everyone!
Just to add, his mum picks him up from school, so he doesn’t tag along with us on the way home.
We’ve actually tried leaving 5 minutes earlier or 5 minutes later to avoid him, but he lives on the same street as us. Every morning, he watches us leave and then runs out from his house to join us on the way to school. I have never waited for him or knocked on his door to ask him to come to school with us.
According to our school’s rules, children from Year 5 are allowed to walk to and from school by themselves, so he doesn’t need an adult to accompany him.
However, his mum apparently wants him to walk with us for safety reasons, while she stays at home. This is what her son has told my child, anyway.
I would better chat with his mum !

Do let us know how the chat with the child's Mum, goes. You could explain that the walk to school is often a time your children open up and talk to you but they don't when this other kid is around so it's having an impact.

If it was me, I'd offer to help now and again (and then probably regret it!) but explain that I'd need her to check with me first (rather than just letting him run out to catch up with us).

Looking forward to the update!

Timeforachange26 · Yesterday 16:48

theneighbourgotmycake · Yesterday 13:22

exactly, all the way to year 5, the teacher only release the child when they see the adult
Completely understandable, but it's a pain when you take the dog for a walk at the same time (obviously not allowed on school property), you can't just meet the kids at the gates

and in year 5 and 6, parents can sign a form to allow the kids to be alone.

This must be fairly new. My kids used to meet at school gate. Well younger 2. Eldest walked herself home from year 4 ( school was 3 mins walk rather than across town)

Drknittingfrog · Yesterday 16:48

I would definitely clarify with the neighbour why the child feels he needs to walk with you. And if you want the time to chat with your 2, then be honest and say that you don't mind once or twice a week but that you also enjoy having that time to chat heart to heart with your children.
I live in Switzerland and children are encouraged to walk alone to school from the age of 5, so they all collect each other on snap groups on the way to school and the mum network is strong. As they sometimes start at 7.30 it is nice that they walk together in the dark 🙈

Autumnalbride · Yesterday 16:50

Kids have a way of interpreting things and explaining them in a way that sounds different to adults than it does in their heads.

His parents probably told him to take a specific route because there will be other families around and there will be safety in numbers and people he can chat to rather than "go with that specific family'

But even so, unless it's time you get with your children that you treasure because you don't get much else, then I don't really see what your problem is.

mcmuffin22 · Yesterday 16:51

GetBernie · Yesterday 16:31

The OP said: The child told my Year 4 child that his mum had said it was dangerous for him to walk to school alone and that he should walk with us.

If she thinks it's not safe then she should walk him there herself, not rely on someone else to look out for her kid.

The child could have made it up.

Or maybe that is exactly what the parent DID say. Either way it is causing absolutely no issue for the child to be walking along with them apart from OP's weird hang up about being responsible (which no one has asked her to be). The alternative is to tell the child that they can't walk with them any more which is terrible role modelling for her own kids and also just really mean. But at least it will teach those other parents a lesson, eh?

Isobel201 · Yesterday 16:52

Does he walk in on his own if you never pass the house? I wonder how he's going to get on next September when presumably he will be moving into secondary school.

ManCage · Yesterday 16:54

Why is it a weird hangup to feel responsible? The majority of comments criticising OP are about precisely that, that she should accept responsibility for the boy’s safety

Moonnstarz · Yesterday 16:56

I think I would do as others have said and knock on the door and talk to the mum.
Say there seems to be some miscommunication and her son has said he has been told he has to walk with you for safety reasons but no one has told you that. I would focus on this being a concern and that you aren't willing to be the supervising adult.

TicklishReader · Yesterday 16:57

Isobel201 · Yesterday 16:52

Does he walk in on his own if you never pass the house? I wonder how he's going to get on next September when presumably he will be moving into secondary school.

He will probably take the bus or walk there.

theneighbourgotmycake · Yesterday 17:03

Timeforachange26 · Yesterday 16:24

But he is year 6

the neighbour's child is in Y4, he wouldn't be allowed to go alone with a Y6 as suggested in the post I am replying to

stichguru · Yesterday 17:05

How far is the walk? Is the walk busy with people? Does the child seem like a pretty reasonable, intelligent for a year 6 or is he backward or silly in some way?

It all seems odd. I mean no absolutely if the child is only allowed to walk on his own because you are there, then you should have been asked to take him and mum should be taking her himself if you said no, or not every morning,

However a year 6 not being allowed to walk on their own is odd unless his general awareness/behaviour is markedly backward for his age. My son started walking in year 4 when his dad and I both had covid (school knew and were ok with it, and it was 4 mins door to door.) By year 5 and into year 6, many of the kids walked alone and it was very normal. It's almost stranger if this kid is only allowed to walk alone because you are there.

I also wonder could there have been misunderstanding like maybe the kid is a little weary of walking by themselves and mum has said it's busy out there with lots of other mums and kiddo has interpreted that as "cling to a particular other mum"?

SheThinksShesAllThat · Yesterday 17:08

Pansykavalier · Yesterday 10:15

What exactly is your problem

This!!!!!

sorry but your walking to school to same way. What do you want him to do leave 2 mins later than you and walk behind you. You say you haven’t spoken to the parents so how do you know he is told to walk with you.
This really isn’t a big deal! And if this really is the worst thing in your life you may want to check yourself.

RedToothBrush · Yesterday 17:08

MissyB1 · Yesterday 16:36

What did I just read?! That OP should tell the poor kid thst he's not allowed to walk on the same pavement in the same direction as OP and her kids at the same time as them? Or she will get him into trouble at school? She doesn't own the pavement! And if she has a pop at him for chatting to her kids that would be just nasty.

I will not be walking with you. You are free to walk by yourself, but I will not be taking responsibility for you. And yes to the school say you feel harassed and put in a position where it is assumed that you are taking responsibility.

The point is the assumption of responsibility. The kid is free to walk at any time but if they are harassing you to walk with you because the parents don't want to take responsibility, I'd absolutely say it because otherwise you could end up with problem.

Imseriouslyyouguys · Yesterday 17:12

Morecoffeeneedef · Yesterday 11:26

An 11 is old enough to walk alone unless there's some particular problem. You haven't agreed to be responsible for him so you aren't. Let him tag along if he wants.

I wouldn’t have wanted a random neighbourhood kid tagging along on our school run walks. It was some of our best time together for chatting and I wouldn’t have wanted anyone else ruining that.

Mozartsbiggestfan · Yesterday 17:13

I get it. I wouldn’t want to take on the extra responsibility of another child early morning, it’s just another thing to think about. It would also irk me that the parent hasn’t spoken to me. Are you sure the parent knows about it? I’d be curious to know what happens if your kids stay home one day. Does he walk home with you as well?

TicklishReader · Yesterday 17:14

RedToothBrush · Yesterday 17:08

I will not be walking with you. You are free to walk by yourself, but I will not be taking responsibility for you. And yes to the school say you feel harassed and put in a position where it is assumed that you are taking responsibility.

The point is the assumption of responsibility. The kid is free to walk at any time but if they are harassing you to walk with you because the parents don't want to take responsibility, I'd absolutely say it because otherwise you could end up with problem.

The OP hasn't given any suggestion of harassment. The boy is a friend of her children.

Morecoffeeneedef · Yesterday 17:16

Imseriouslyyouguys · Yesterday 17:12

I wouldn’t have wanted a random neighbourhood kid tagging along on our school run walks. It was some of our best time together for chatting and I wouldn’t have wanted anyone else ruining that.

Fair enough but OP hasn't said that, she's worried about being held responsible for any problems.

Imseriouslyyouguys · Yesterday 17:18

Morecoffeeneedef · Yesterday 17:16

Fair enough but OP hasn't said that, she's worried about being held responsible for any problems.

Yep that’s the other element to it, but your post I was responding to said “let him tag along” - valuable family time is another reason not to want this.