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AIBU to tell my neighbour’s Year 6 child to stop walking to school with us?

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Msjamtoast · Yesterday 10:13

I have two children, one in Year 4 and one in Reception. Every morning I walk them to school.
For the past two weeks, a neighbour’s Year 6 child has been coming along with us every morning. Our children know each other and sometimes play together locally, but the parents and I have never actually spoken. When the children play together, the parents don’t usually come out, so we’ve never met or had any arrangement about walking to school together.
The child told my Year 4 child that his mum had said it was dangerous for him to walk to school alone and that he should walk with us.
I’m uncomfortable with this. I’m already responsible for my two children, including a Reception child, and I don’t want to take responsibility for another family’s child.
If his parents feel he isn’t safe walking to school alone, I feel they should make their own arrangements rather than relying on us.
Would you tell the child he needs to make his own arrangements, or just let him continue walking with us?
Has anyone else experienced something similar with a neighbour’s child joining your school run?

OP posts:
KilkennyCats · Yesterday 15:56

What happens if someone random starts talking to the neighbours child, are you supposed to intervene?
Would you not have the basic humanity to do that if you saw it even if he wasn’t actually walking with you? Some people…

KilkennyCats · Yesterday 15:57

TicklishReader · Yesterday 15:39

Awk, that's shitty.

You weren't doing any harm.

What an absolute cow.

1HappyTraveller · Yesterday 16:01

The parents know what they are doing. They are making sure that their child is ready early enough to be able to come with you.

It is not your responsibility. And it’s pretty cheeky that the expectation is that they can just walk with you.

I would go and speak to the parents directly and ask if everything is okay as the child has been walking with you for the past two weeks but you’re not sure why that is.

mcmuffin22 · Yesterday 16:02

Mountainlover26 · Yesterday 15:50

Sorry but in reality will that really happen at Secondary?

Sounds like parents dont want to do the school run but equally dont trust their child to walk alone. You cant have it both ways. Either trust them or they walk him themselves. The OP isnt running a free tag along service!

Yes in my experience it happens in secondary. Both of my children (at different secondary schools) have done that with friends from other years from their primary school. Luckily children are a bit more community minded than some parents.

OriginalSkang · Yesterday 16:02

PrettyLittleRose · Yesterday 13:10

@OriginalSkang · Today 10:20

If you saw him get run over or abducted or whatever on the school run and he was just walking ahead of you rather than with you, would you just say 'not my problem' and keep walking? I'm guessing not. I don't see an issue unless he is pissing you off in some way..

LOL, This is peak Mumsnet batshit. Take no notice of this @Msjamtoast The first few responses are telling you that YABU, and if you are NOT accommodating with this child, when they get will abducted, or knocked down by a car, and it will be YOUR FAULT!

This place is off-the-charts batshit sometimes. You can tell who the posters are who take the piss out of other parents and dump their kids on them. What a cheek, trying to make the OP feel bad for not wanting some random child coming to school with them and their children.

Don't put up with it @Msjamtoast Tell the parents that their child is not your responsibility and they can't come with you (to school,) anymore. Drive there for a few weeks to try and get rid of this child if you're too worried about speaking to the parents.

I had quite a few parents taking the piss out me and getting them to hang on to me and my DC, and walk to school with us, and cadge lifts when I dropped them off in the car when I had work. The parents had them come with us so they didn't have to take them to school. And they'd send them to play with my DC at OUR house, fairly often, because they couldn't be fucked with them. Never had my DC at theirs.

Some people are users and they take the piss. I allowed it to happen to me, and am annoyed with myself that I allowed it to happen. A year and a half or so it had been happening, before I was strong enough to stand up and say no. By then it had been going on so long, that the parents expected it, and were angry and arsey when I stopped it.

Don't be like me. Stop this now. You will get used over and over again by people who aren't arsed about their children. Ignore the posters telling you to #BEKIND

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Edited

I've no idea how you read that into what I said 😂

My point is that he is just walking along a street and if the OP saw him get hit by a car she wouldn't leave him to die anyway, so what is the problem?

Sartre · Yesterday 16:03

Ethelspagetti · Yesterday 15:31

Omg this was me! In year 6 my dad told me to walk home by myself. I was very nervous and walked back with my friend and her childminder! The child minder lived down the road from me! After a few weeks the child minder told me to not walk with them anymore because she gets paid to walk my friend home and not me! I didn’t realise and felt so embarrassed! Never tagged along with anyone else again!

Well this is harsh and they were shitty, as OP is being here. This child is doing no harm at all. He can walk alone at his age but he probably feels more comfortable chatting to his mate. OP, for some reason, thinks it’s ok to try and hide from this child because his existence is unbearable.

BunnyBunbunbun · Yesterday 16:09

Ethelspagetti · Yesterday 15:31

Omg this was me! In year 6 my dad told me to walk home by myself. I was very nervous and walked back with my friend and her childminder! The child minder lived down the road from me! After a few weeks the child minder told me to not walk with them anymore because she gets paid to walk my friend home and not me! I didn’t realise and felt so embarrassed! Never tagged along with anyone else again!

If you were nervous walking home alone then your dad was responsible for dealing with that, not a strange adult.

ManCage · Yesterday 16:10

Lots of posters are creating scenarios the OP never mentioned, scripting OPs responses to their imagined scenarios then criticising OP for their scripted response. Please deal with facts, not your personal hyperbole.

Boomer55 · Yesterday 16:12

A couple of kids used to tag on when I walked my primary age kids to school. As they were no problem, I was quite happy to bring them along with us. 🤷‍♀️

EmmaB1309 · Yesterday 16:13

Well you’re walking the same way, at the same time, so unless you want the poor kid to lag behind or run ahead so he isn’t walking ‘with’ you (which would be pretty petty), not sure there is much to be done.
Is it a particular risky route? Cos otherwise I’d have thought a year 6 would be capable of walking to school without adults. Doesn’t he have any friends?
Have a word with the parent. Maybe say you don’t mind him walking alongside you, as long as they know you aren’t responsible for him, and they shouldn’t rely on you keeping an eye on him because you have your own two to watch and maybe sometimes make alternative transport arrangements, or leave earlier than usual, etc….
If you really don’t want him walking with you at all (kinda mean but ok) then just leave a lot earlier one morning. They’ll get the message. I wouldn’t be saying it directly to the child.

KilkennyCats · Yesterday 16:14

BunnyBunbunbun · Yesterday 16:09

If you were nervous walking home alone then your dad was responsible for dealing with that, not a strange adult.

It was her friend’s childminder who lived on the same street. If they got out of school at the same time, she’d have had to make a conscious effort to walk ahead or behind her friend who was going exactly the same way.
Nobody normal does that.

mcmuffin22 · Yesterday 16:14

BunnyBunbunbun · Yesterday 16:09

If you were nervous walking home alone then your dad was responsible for dealing with that, not a strange adult.

I think part of the issue is that as a kid you kind of have to be left to get on with it and overcome your nervousness. We are only a few weeks into the school year so by half term this kid may be off walking with other friends (and OP's son may well be disappointed and ask to walk with him)..

BunnyBunbunbun · Yesterday 16:19

Msjamtoast · Yesterday 10:13

I have two children, one in Year 4 and one in Reception. Every morning I walk them to school.
For the past two weeks, a neighbour’s Year 6 child has been coming along with us every morning. Our children know each other and sometimes play together locally, but the parents and I have never actually spoken. When the children play together, the parents don’t usually come out, so we’ve never met or had any arrangement about walking to school together.
The child told my Year 4 child that his mum had said it was dangerous for him to walk to school alone and that he should walk with us.
I’m uncomfortable with this. I’m already responsible for my two children, including a Reception child, and I don’t want to take responsibility for another family’s child.
If his parents feel he isn’t safe walking to school alone, I feel they should make their own arrangements rather than relying on us.
Would you tell the child he needs to make his own arrangements, or just let him continue walking with us?
Has anyone else experienced something similar with a neighbour’s child joining your school run?

"The child told my Year 4 child that his mum had said it was dangerous for him to walk to school alone and that he should walk with us."

If his mum thinks it's too dangerous for him to walk to school alone then either she or another family member should take him to school, or, if that's not possible, then actually ask you personally if you're willing to accompany him to school. She shouldn't arbitrarily decide that a complete stranger that she's never even spoken to and who hasn't been notified about this is responsible for his safety.

You should speak to her directly, though, not arrange it all through the kid.

Netcurtainnelly · Yesterday 16:19

Must talk to the parent in a friendly way. You don't know they think
She might not have said anything.
Alot of aibu could be solved by having a chat.

honeybeetheoneandonly · Yesterday 16:20

Msjamtoast · Yesterday 11:19

Thank you for all the replies, everyone!
Just to add, his mum picks him up from school, so he doesn’t tag along with us on the way home.
We’ve actually tried leaving 5 minutes earlier or 5 minutes later to avoid him, but he lives on the same street as us. Every morning, he watches us leave and then runs out from his house to join us on the way to school. I have never waited for him or knocked on his door to ask him to come to school with us.
According to our school’s rules, children from Year 5 are allowed to walk to and from school by themselves, so he doesn’t need an adult to accompany him.
However, his mum apparently wants him to walk with us for safety reasons, while she stays at home. This is what her son has told my child, anyway.
I would better chat with his mum !

How did he get to school last year when he was in year 5? Did his parents walk with him for the full year?

Netcurtainnelly · Yesterday 16:22

1HappyTraveller · Yesterday 16:01

The parents know what they are doing. They are making sure that their child is ready early enough to be able to come with you.

It is not your responsibility. And it’s pretty cheeky that the expectation is that they can just walk with you.

I would go and speak to the parents directly and ask if everything is okay as the child has been walking with you for the past two weeks but you’re not sure why that is.

Don't do this it's very poor advice.

RedToothBrush · Yesterday 16:23

gamerchick · Yesterday 10:15

I would actually knock on his door and speak to his parents.

This.

It's not the kids fault.

You are not happy with the responsibility, tell them.

If he continues to walk with you after this, stop and tell him to walk by himself and you will be speaking to the school.

Timeforachange26 · Yesterday 16:24

theneighbourgotmycake · Yesterday 10:42

around here, y4 are not allowed to walk to or from school without an adult, that wouldn't work.

But he is year 6

Timeforachange26 · Yesterday 16:28

shuffleofftobuffalo · Yesterday 12:26

It’s the bit where the parents have told him to walk with you that I don’t like. That means that they will hold your responsible if anything happens. Knock on their door and knock it on the head, they need to take him themselves if they’re worried about him walking alone.

Is there any confirmation that this is actually true though or just what the kid said

Coconutter24 · Yesterday 16:29

Imseriouslyyouguys · Yesterday 11:19

Knock on their door and speak to the parents “Alfie says you’ve told him he needs to walk to school with us. Unfortunately I have my hands full with my own two as they’re much younger so I won’t be able to have him walk with us”.

And then the child needs to set off to school and walks 5 paces behind OP and her children?

Does the child cause any issues on the school run OP? Does your child enjoy walking with him? You’re well with in your rights to say you aren’t responsible for him because you’ve got your own children but if he’s walking the same way anyway and around the same time how can you stop him from joining your child?
What if he didn’t walk with you and walked behind a bit and something happened, he fell over, hit by a car, attempted kidnap….. wouldn’t you help or say something for any child in those positions anyway regardless of if they’re walking with you or not?

Coconutter24 · Yesterday 16:30

Timeforachange26 · Yesterday 16:24

But he is year 6

OPs child is year 4, that’s who they mean can’t walk alone

GetBernie · Yesterday 16:31

mcmuffin22 · Yesterday 15:19

She is not being used as that though. The child is walking to school - she has no responsibility for him. Also, op could look on the positive side - if the children end up at the same secondary school then her son will have a buddy a few years older than him to show him the ropes and hopefully look out for him.

The OP said: The child told my Year 4 child that his mum had said it was dangerous for him to walk to school alone and that he should walk with us.

If she thinks it's not safe then she should walk him there herself, not rely on someone else to look out for her kid.

1HappyTraveller · Yesterday 16:31

Netcurtainnelly · Yesterday 16:22

Don't do this it's very poor advice.

Why? No sarcasm. Interested to hear why you feel this is a bad suggestion?

Are you coming from a safeguarding perspective or is there something else I am missing?

You suggested to speak to the parents in your own reply on this thread. I have suggested the same so I am a little confused by your reply here.

KilkennyCats · Yesterday 16:34

RedToothBrush · Yesterday 16:23

This.

It's not the kids fault.

You are not happy with the responsibility, tell them.

If he continues to walk with you after this, stop and tell him to walk by himself and you will be speaking to the school.

Imagine being that kid.
Having your friend’s mum knock on your door to tell your parents to keep you away from them on the school run. And then tell you this to your face, alongside a threat to report to the school (!) should you dare to speak to your friend as you pass by thereafter.
You’d wonder how some people were actually raised themselves, that they’d think this was in any way the act of a reasonable person.

Lentilcakes · Yesterday 16:34

I’d def be knocking on the parents’ door - I wouldn’t be comfortable with a kid walking with me without it being ‘official’ - are you responsible for him or is he an independent traveller (my DC school had a list of year 6s who walked on their own).
What happens if you or DC are ill, or something happens on the way in (child falls or you need to pop to a shop etc).