Where do you think Jewish people come from?

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Antisemitism is at full volume at the moment and I caveat this post with saying that I have absolutely no wish to make Jewish MNers feel uncomfortable but as an an atheist with no connection to Israel this really makes my blood boil.

I see so many SM posts about the Jews having 'colonized' Israel and Judea & Samaria, not having any claim to the land, not being indigenous and of course being 'Europeans settlers'.

They can't answer where they actually come from though so I thought anyone on here who shares their views might be able to give an answer and how they came to that conclusion.

I understand that Jews are an ethnicity with Judaism as their religion. Being Jewish is not a religion. Jews are still today spread out all over the world with the majority living in Israel and the US.

This has come into focus since the UK Government sanctions on Jewish businesses in Judea & Samaria recently with Jewish communities living there classed as 'illegal settlers'.

It's almost as if Jews and Judea have no connection at all.

So AIBU to ask where the Jews originated from if not from there?

I don't feel this belongs on the CITME board as although the war in Gaza has amplified beliefs, this not directly about that.

Why would Jews who have never been to or lived in Israel consider themselves Israeli?

Is that why there have been antisemitism and attacks on Jews since the Oct 7th genocide do you think? Because people who want to harm Israelis, and the antisemites, get confused like you just did?

Do you hope all immigrants to Europe consider themselves Europeans because I think you might be disappointed?

Gosh, didn’t realise the robot from Oz was so relevant.
Also had no idea that in all my years of research, I was just looking at jihadist sponsored AI. Silly me.

Sorry but the stealing houses is not terrorist propaganda.
Israel has seized around 55000 buildings since 1967.

One example is the The Basbous family* *homes in the Batn al-Hawa neighborhood of Silwan, East Jerusalem, were forcibly evicted and seized by Israeli authorities and settler organizations in early 2026.

There are hundreds of more cases like this.

From what I’ve read, this is exactly how the vast majority of German Jews felt during the Weimar Republic - they were completely integrated into the mainstream society and considered themselves European.
We all know how much their 'European' identity protected them when the tide turned.

I asked for your opinion.

If you didn't want to give it why bother to respond?

Germany has paid Israel around 85 Billion Euros in reparations.

Yes. That is indeed a big problem. But that's not what the OP was about.

I think it odd that Jews want to live in Palestine, but don't recognise that Palestinians live there. Where do they think Palestinians should live? (The clue is in the name).

Everyone's true ancestral homeland is Africa. That's where homo sapiens evolved. Did you not know that?

I'm struggling to understand the point of this thread.

In the wild, most people don't actually know about Jews or even claim to. My experience as a British-born Jew is that a dreadful conflict has made a lot of people "overnight experts".

Interesting thread. only read half of it so far, but placemarking to come back when I’m not so tired.

Same.

how on earth can Jews returning to their ancestral land (having survived an actual genocide) possibly be regarded as colonisers?

DARVO

The actual colonisers are DENYing what they've done; they're ATTACKing the people seeking to claim their ancestral lands; and they've REVERSED the VICTIM and OFFENDER so that the colonisers are the victims defending thier land and the people whose land is was originally have become the colonisers stealing land.

So they were tenants who decided they were entitled to ownership after the Jews were killed/kicked out in 1948 war and after years of legal battles, which they lost to the owner who proved ownership from 1881, they are now crying victim?

As I said terrorist propaganda.

100%. People can even feel superior about being atheists - imagine, eh, @Eyesopenwideawake ?!

No it didn't. That figure is for compensation to all survivors of Nazi persecution. Only a small amount of that (less than €2bn) went to Israel and that was to support the large number of survivors that Israel was supporting.

Edited to add, this should begin….I agree.

I’m Jewish and regard myself as European and nothing done to dispossess and murder hundreds of thousands since 1948 is done in the name of my heritage.

Zionism is a political movement not Judaism ..it is a supremacist and apartheid belief system. Used by the West to have a stake, political interference in oil resource rich parts of the world. See Sudan for similar resource wars.

There is a growing resistance movement in Israel.

No distraction from state sanction executions in the West Bank, Gaza, Lebanon and beyond, mass detention without trial and genocide OP

Philosophical discussions about ancient origins are an insult to the thousands of child amputees suffering now

Well I would imagine your research was pretty one sided but that is obvious from your blatant bias.

No other country created from the ashes of various conflicts has to justify its existence. Israel has as much right to exist as every other country. If Israel has no right to exist,then presumably Germany should also still encompass half the Baltic, Prussia and Ukraine, which it lost as a result of losing a war it started? Nobody thinks that. I can hope the terrible israeli government is voted out, without ever questioning the existence of Israel. In much the same way that I think the AFD ist a tragedy for Germany without therefore hoping Germany would somehow vanish.

Tbf people can claim to be pretty much anything anonymously online.

Great post

Cool, maybe the Britons should decolonise England and send all those with Anglo Saxon or Danish or Norman heritage packing? Or maybe they could be imprisoned in Cambridgeshire and bombed?

Oh sod off OP!
This is a parenting forum, not a place for Jew-Bashing!!

This thread was not supposed to be about the war in Gaza, as another outlet for antisemites to spout terrorist propaganda, so can we keep on topic? Any excuse!

My OP was pretty clear.

I'm off for a bath now anyway, not sure if I'll be back tonight so may come back tomorrow.

Who was in that area before jews? Humans have been around for 300,000 years...pretty sure there were people in that area called 'Palestine' well before judaism was founded, circa 1300 BCE...unless they all converted...which i dont think is the case...