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AIBU to ask for help re DD who has gone away for weekend when she should have been working

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NCforobviousreasons1 · Yesterday 17:16

How would you deal with the disrespect of an almost 19 yr old DD who has been paid for a job in advance this weekend by me and DH, not done it and used the money to go away for an impromptu weekend instead “because she’s an adult with free will”. Job can’t be done at any other time. Asked her to transfer the money back and she switched off phone. She’s due home on Monday.
No other real problems with her, generally good (but bad with money and entitled)

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Birdsongsinging · Yesterday 19:04

trikonasanallama · Yesterday 18:46

You sound like you're having a toddler tantrum.

If my 18yr did this, I would talk to them first. I would understand what happened, and then apply consequences. I wouldn't treat them like a child and start removing posessions.

If they continued to insist that they hadn't done anything wrong/were an adult/refused to pay the money back etc then of course there would be consequences - yes, including removing the car if appropriate - but so many of these responses are childish and knee jerky.

I agree with this. If you are trying to show someone how to behave like an adult then you have to model that behaviour. Which means talking to them first and working how why they thought this was at all acceptable behaviour. Then getting them to pay back the money and realise that you now don't trust them at all.

MellowSubmarine · Yesterday 19:06

Do you pay for anything else for her OP? Eg a gym contract that can be cancelled until you get the money back, a preferred shampoo you buy on your weekly shop etc. I’d cancel any spending on her that is along those lines until the money was recouped, because she’s stolen it.
And tbh, depending on her attitude when she got back, and what it was i was spending on her, I’d need convincing to start paying it again.

trikonasanallama · Yesterday 19:10

Heronwatcher · Yesterday 18:59

For me, yes I would talk to them but only after they had accepted their behaviour was appalling and made amends/ dealt with the consequences.

If you let people talk their way out of these things- a child will always know which of their parents’ buttons to push to get some sympathy- without making it clear that some behaviour is completely inexcusable whatever the situation, then these people go on to behave exactly the same way again, again and again. And it does them no favours as they become terrible employees, friends and partners in later life and then wonder why they are so miserable/ can’t hold a job down/ have to live with their parents until they’re 40!

Isn't that what I said? I don't think they can talk their way out of it - there should be consequences - I just don't think the right approach is to start changing locks or taking away posessions.

Peakyblinder18 · Yesterday 19:10

@NCforobviousreasons1 it's not just you being disappointed and the fact you paid up front.
She also broke her word and let down passengers travelling to an airport. No doubt that was stressful for them.
That's a shitty thing for anyone to do. DD needs to learn that.

Pingsung · Yesterday 19:22

I'm guessing it was you she was supposed to be picking up ? She felt safe in doing a horrible thing because she knows that as parents we always forgive. If it was to someone else then it becomes even more unacceptable if thats possible!

ApiratesaysYarrr · Yesterday 19:27

The reality is that she needs to repay probably double the amount - the £120 that she was given and the cost of organising a taxi for the people let down (I imagine that it's OP who was supposed to be picked up from the airport as this would be a reason for giving money in advance to ensure that petrol is in the car etc.

JoshLymanSwagger · Yesterday 19:30

"I'm an adult now"

Well, Okay.

Where are you going to live? Who will pay for your food? Where will you earn money to pay for your lifestyle and PHONE?🤔

In future @NCforobviousreasons1 she gets "paid" once she's done the "job" - although a taxi would be less stressful.

If she lives at home she should be making a contribution towards the household bills out of her "adult" salary from her "I'm an adult now" career.🤦🏻‍♀️

pictoosh · Yesterday 19:32

LarryForPrimeMinister · Yesterday 19:01

I would tell her she has three months to move out. She's literally stealing off you, come down hard.

Sure you would.

viques · Yesterday 19:32

NCforobviousreasons1 · Yesterday 17:30

You guessed correctly! Taking someone to the airport. She was paid £120. She’s usually reliable which is why no worry about paying her early.
Bad with money in that she doesn’t save but spends as soon as she earns.
Entitled = an example being that she’ll agree to something but then if a better offer comes along complains that she’s being taken advantage of as opposed to realising that’s life!
This is out of character but she’s started getting more “I’m an adult now” so as a pp mentioned, my view is to go down the adult responsibilities route or sell some of her items of my choosing to repay it.

I wonder who pays for her car insurance?

Making a wild guess here, but I can’t imagine that your entitled 19 year old is finding the wherewithal to pay for her own insurance, and am willing to bet that she isn’t driving a twelve year old fiesta.

Hairsnakes · Yesterday 19:34

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catsflorafauna · Yesterday 19:41

Wow. That is unbelievably cheeky.

If she’s got some newish GHDs they would be cost comparable to replace, with the money she has taken from you (which she’s obvs spent but it’s the principle). I would sell them (you would get half the price for them). It’s ann example of if you take money and don’t pay it back then the bailiffs will take your personal belongings to recoup.

ChocolateCinderToffee · Yesterday 19:45

At her age, I was living independently and responsible for my own money. I suggest you tell her she has three months to find a flatshare and move out.

JoshLymanSwagger · Yesterday 19:45

viques · Yesterday 19:32

I wonder who pays for her car insurance?

Making a wild guess here, but I can’t imagine that your entitled 19 year old is finding the wherewithal to pay for her own insurance, and am willing to bet that she isn’t driving a twelve year old fiesta.

As a 54yo with a 14yo Fiesta, I am taking umbrage at your post! 😁

Hairsnakes · Yesterday 19:50

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ImmortalSnowman · Yesterday 19:52

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I am and my kids would never steal from someone in the first place. Nor would they be taking money and not doing the job they were paid to do. They certainly wouldn't be telling me they were an adult and then turning off their phone either after stealing money and thinking they could remain living here. They have something called respect.

@NCforobviousreasons1 is greatly lacking in this, assume you have no consequences for behaving like an entitled brat and a thief for yours?

JoshLymanSwagger · Yesterday 19:56

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Bit difficult - she's been dead for quite a while now...

My first insurance policy cost about £1100 for an ancient 5th hand astra (that my dad "gave" me as a "gift"🙄 because he decided to stop driving).

TurkishShepherd · Yesterday 19:58

trikonasanallama · Yesterday 18:46

You sound like you're having a toddler tantrum.

If my 18yr did this, I would talk to them first. I would understand what happened, and then apply consequences. I wouldn't treat them like a child and start removing posessions.

If they continued to insist that they hadn't done anything wrong/were an adult/refused to pay the money back etc then of course there would be consequences - yes, including removing the car if appropriate - but so many of these responses are childish and knee jerky.

If your 18 year old needs a talk to understand she's behaved in a shitty way, I'd suggest your parenting is not as wonderful as you think.

She should be way beyond teachable moments about responsibility, acting with integrity and not stealing from your Mum.

Hairsnakes · Yesterday 20:00

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Franjipanl8r · Yesterday 20:03

I bet you and DH have driven her loads of places without charging her over the years. If she wants money and independence, she can leave home and get a proper job. Don’t hand out loads of cash for doing family favours, that’s a very slippery slope but I guess you’ve learnt that now.

LizandDerekGoals · Yesterday 20:05

Vaguelyclassical · Yesterday 18:33

I'm sorry, but I may die of frustration if I don't find out if the person who was supposed to be driven to the airport by the feckless daughter actually got there!

There must be taxis and ubers.

JoshLymanSwagger · Yesterday 20:07

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It's not just the insurance. It's tyres, battery, exhaust, brakes and every other little thing including replacing the ignition lock barrel that adds up.

Anyway...I guess we agree that
Cars = expensive to insure, tax and maintain;
Cars = need a job to pay for them.

Vaguelyclassical · Yesterday 20:07

LizandDerekGoals · Yesterday 20:05

There must be taxis and ubers.

Oh I don't doubt it, but as somebody who believes there is no such thing as being too early at the airport, the idea of a guaranteed ride from a family member just disappearing at somebody's irresponsible whim has my blood boiling! I need reassurance of at least a partially happy outcome.

BoredZelda · Yesterday 20:07

Heronwatcher · Yesterday 18:59

For me, yes I would talk to them but only after they had accepted their behaviour was appalling and made amends/ dealt with the consequences.

If you let people talk their way out of these things- a child will always know which of their parents’ buttons to push to get some sympathy- without making it clear that some behaviour is completely inexcusable whatever the situation, then these people go on to behave exactly the same way again, again and again. And it does them no favours as they become terrible employees, friends and partners in later life and then wonder why they are so miserable/ can’t hold a job down/ have to live with their parents until they’re 40!

And if they never accepted that, you just wouldn’t talk to them?

Extrapolating this to adult employee behaviour is absolutely wild.

ImmortalSnowman · Yesterday 20:09

trikonasanallama · Yesterday 18:08

Many daft posters immediately after this! Horrendous parenting

Horrendous parenting because we aren't raising ignorant thieves? You can be happy for your children to steal and be disrespectful, others aren't.

Hairsnakes · Yesterday 20:10

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