AIBU to think migrant sex crime data should be published? And to wonder why Labour are blocking the release of that data?

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Labour Blocks Release of Migrant Crime Data

'Victims of serious crimes and their families have joined forces to demand that the Labour government publish detailed data on offences committed by foreign nationals, accusing ministers of withholding information that is “clearly and legitimately in the public interest”.

Among the signatories are victims of high-profile sexual offences and families of murder victims. One signatory is a 14-year-old victim of a sexual assault in Epping allegedly committed by an illegal immigrant, in the same Essex town where asylum seekers were housed at the controversial Bell Hotel.
Fiona Goddard, a survivor of rape-gang grooming who has campaigned publicly about her experiences, has also signed the letter.

Eight relatives of Rhiannon Whyte, a hotel worker murdered by a Sudanese national, are also among those backing the demand.'

https://europeanconservative.com/articles/news-corner/labour-blocks-release-of-migrant-crime-data/

Not everything is a conspiracy theory.

Stop letting your algorithm brainwash you.

So it’s going to be assessed still? And Labour might be ruled against and have to publish

Yes that's true but we have a two tier justice system here and many women do not understand their rights because they believe other things are more important and we are hands off when it comes to different culture..

I read an awful story years ago in the times of a young girl who had escaped somerhng awful forced marriage or fgm or sexual abuse and she ran away and a "community leader " spoke out and took her back.

How awful is that ???
We allow forced marriages and all sorts.

We are not able to combat this and so there are millions of women in the UK living under different laws that are not UK laws.

They are actively trying not to publish, it might be overruled

Read a few reports of these men committing crimes all over Europe and then getting caught in UK for a crime and these other crimes come out of the woodwork. Does this mean we are the end of the line and the worst of the worst are pitching up at 40 saying they are 16! The other tribe that seems to turn up on X & fb daily are the ones who have a visa to study but decide whilst away from their rather strict culture decide to groom 14 year old girls on WhatsApp. We not only need statistics on these creeps but feedback on outcomes then we know they have been well and truly deported on release and if not why not! And who will do something about this and their feckin family life is more important than our daughters!

Sure, I also think that data should be released!

I'm just really unpersuaded there's a group of people saying "man, I'd just love to do some racist assaults, but I really need the official stats before I start".

The men of greatest risk to any of us statistically, by far, are the men we know.

I'm more interested in hearing your take.

The legal case is currently pending before the First-tier Tribunal (General Regulatory Chamber)

It was recently reported that a very mentally unwell Sundanese man was rejected for alsyum in France and yet managed to get here via the boats and ended up attacking a woman 30 times with a broken bottle.
Allowing this style of immigration we just can't vet people

I would just point to what the rape crisis centres said that people need to stop politicising sexual violence against women. We are having a 2 tier system. Where rapes against women committed by British men are seemingly getting none of this attention and all of it going to migrants. They’re both wrong and both need to be tackled. But because the men are British nothing gets done.

The vast majority of women who go to UK Rape crisis centres are being attacked by people they know, men they are in a relationship with. It’s practically legal for rape to occur in this country just look at the pathetic low conviction rates. And even when there is evidence as in the case of those poor girls raped and filmed by those teenage boys the system is rigged in the boys favour.

Yes so why add to it ?

Why have more ?

I think you should pay more attention to how I phrased my first question.

So do you think the stats will show immigrants commit fewer crimes? Then great, publish the figures and shut them up? Would this not be the best way to close down the argument for good?

You need to have a look at the stats published by Sweden, Denmark and Germany.

Are you suggesting we end immigration?

But that's obviously perfectly sensible. Immigrants who may have a criminal record elsewhere are patently different to NEETS who definitely don't have a criminal record, regardless of what other issues they may have.

Immigrants are also different to native-born people, in that we have a choice about whether we have them or not. I don't understand the frequently trotted-out argument that goes along the lines of 'we have bad people here already so we shouldn't care about the additional bad people we might be letting in'.

Nonsense.
Who’s this everyone.
Let me guess you are another one in a safe area with luxury beliefs.

Indeed. We are obliged to deal with our own sex pests. We don’t have to import more (if that’s what the statistics show).

Same. Especially when if there’s a risk women and girls usually bear the brunt.

I’m not sure why Labour are so against the information being known. They might lose and have to share it anyway.

Are you ? Is that the only solution you can think of to stop people coming here in boats unvetted ?

How do you propose we stop the irg using boat routes etc ?

Stop it all ?

In that case the data will show that and white British men will be wildly over represented by the data per capita.
We want to know what the actual data shows because we have a right to the facts.

Defend your point which was "why add to it...why have more?".

That wasn't my opinion. It was yours.

@Blooko I agree.

Did anyone see the case about the tube sex offender Simon levy ??

Convicted of several murders and multiple gropings and sex offences in the tube mainly over many years. He was caught and let go many times.

How good are our policing systems ??
Can they cope with more sexual deviants ??

Id say. No.

We should definitely not be allowing undocumented men to wander freely around.

Why do we all have passports, undergo biometric fingerprinting, eyeball recognition etc to move between countries, yet men can make their way into this country illegally , then claim asylum - and are miraculously then not illegal and are totally at liberty. It makes no sense .