AIBU to think migrant sex crime data should be published? And to wonder why Labour are blocking the release of that data?

[Fabiansrule]

Labour Blocks Release of Migrant Crime Data

'Victims of serious crimes and their families have joined forces to demand that the Labour government publish detailed data on offences committed by foreign nationals, accusing ministers of withholding information that is “clearly and legitimately in the public interest”.

Among the signatories are victims of high-profile sexual offences and families of murder victims. One signatory is a 14-year-old victim of a sexual assault in Epping allegedly committed by an illegal immigrant, in the same Essex town where asylum seekers were housed at the controversial Bell Hotel.
Fiona Goddard, a survivor of rape-gang grooming who has campaigned publicly about her experiences, has also signed the letter.

Eight relatives of Rhiannon Whyte, a hotel worker murdered by a Sudanese national, are also among those backing the demand.'

https://europeanconservative.com/articles/news-corner/labour-blocks-release-of-migrant-crime-data/

It’s easy to find.

The Centre for Migration Control is not some kind of respected research organisation. It is a one man band run by a right wing activist and former Reform member who agitates against immigration. I think it is really important to note that as is the fact that many or most of CMC’s claims have been found to be very unreliable.

How helpful. If it's easy to find then just link.

What's the problem with you doing that?

So the Ministry of Justice and Police National Computer information are also skewed?
Really ?

MNHQ busy deleting free speech as usual.

Reporting my comments really says a lot more about the inability of some posters to justify their behaviour than it does about my response to it.

Because it’s your time and request. Just put appeal IOC Labour it’s in the press now.

This is her modus operandi.

I was responding and it was gone, I didn’t report. But good on mnhq it probably helps.

@mumumental Well, is it?

And @blossomtoes you've metaphorically (apparently) likened me to a pig but you still haven't answered the question .. why would releasing the data affect 'xenophobia?

And yours is this.

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Yes, this confused me, too. If the data shows that migrants are no likelier to commit sexual assault than anyone else, why would releasing that data result in vigilante attacks? It makes no sense.

@Fabiansrule and @EasternStandard

Any chance of a relevant link?

My posts crossed no line. It's disappointing to see Mumsnet kowtowing to racism and prejudice when you're in a strong position to oppose its normalisation.

How do you make this connection? Is it because the guy at CMC cites their statistics in a highly selective manner to give a misleading impression, by chance?

To be clear, people of any political persuasion can play this nasty game. That is why we need to rely on professional statisticians and others who have been trained to eliminate bias for our data.

Let’s look at this
The migration observatory issued a report two weeks ago saying that the data
https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/migrants-and-crime-in-the-uk/
Non-citizens in England and Wales accounted for 13.1% (or 43,250) of cautions and convictions in 2024 and 12.1% of the prison population (10,450 foreign national prisoners) in June 2025 (Figure 1). There is currently no official estimate of non-citizens’ share of the adult population. However, Migration Observatory calculations suggest that by 2025, roughly 13.5% of the adult population were non-citizens. In other words, the overall rate of convictions and incarceration was roughly similar for citizens and non-citizens.
Foreign nationals made up 18.7% of entries into prisons in 2025, higher than their share of either convictions or the prison population. This is driven by the fact that non-citizens are less likely than British citizens to be granted bail while awaiting trial. See the section ‘Does the criminal justice system deal differently with citizens and non-citizens?’ below for more information

The most common non-UK nationalities of people in English and Welsh prisons at the end of 2025 were Albanian, Irish, and Polish.

Your comment wrt to London:
London force data foreign nationals were reported to account for roughly 40–47% of those charged for sexual offences in 2024

London as a whole is 41% foreign national population. Within the highest crime area, West London, 47% are foreign nationals. The second highest crime area in London is central London with 44% foreign nationals. In addition, 21 million foreign tourists were in London during 2024 and the number of arrests would have included foreign tourists as well. Based on this contextual information about the diversity of London, the data on London charges for sexual assault appears to show no evidence of foreign nationals being more likely to offend than British nationals.

Well we have had an armoured vehicle gate installed and the babies / toddlers have lockdown drills.

So no nothings happened thank god

It brings me to Olympic committee and appeals. Not at all relevant to this thread. @Fabiansrule Are you happy with this reply?

ICO and Labour, appeal

If data were published anyway it only tells you about sexual crime which comes to court and is successfully prosecuted. The vast majority goes unreported.

Let me know what Reform or Restore propose with regard to tackling sex crime which is not race or immigration related. Let me know if they have any policies to protect or enhance women's rights which are not race or immigration related.

I won't be holding my breath.

Why though? As you are convinced this is the only reason, what is it? What is the reason?

What on earth do you think asylum seekers are going to do to babies and toddlers? You really must spell it out otherwise you are engaging in monstering people based on their ethnic background.

No, I think you will find I didn't say that. However CMC's methodology has been very much criticised by experts. Google what Ben Brindle from Oxford University has said for example.