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AIBU to think migrant sex crime data should be published? And to wonder why Labour are blocking the release of that data?

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Fabiansrule · 28/08/2026 16:25

Labour Blocks Release of Migrant Crime Data

'Victims of serious crimes and their families have joined forces to demand that the Labour government publish detailed data on offences committed by foreign nationals, accusing ministers of withholding information that is “clearly and legitimately in the public interest”.

Among the signatories are victims of high-profile sexual offences and families of murder victims. One signatory is a 14-year-old victim of a sexual assault in Epping allegedly committed by an illegal immigrant, in the same Essex town where asylum seekers were housed at the controversial Bell Hotel.
Fiona Goddard, a survivor of rape-gang grooming who has campaigned publicly about her experiences, has also signed the letter.

Eight relatives of Rhiannon Whyte, a hotel worker murdered by a Sudanese national, are also among those backing the demand.'

https://europeanconservative.com/articles/news-corner/labour-blocks-release-of-migrant-crime-data/

Labour Blocks Release of Migrant Crime Data

The British government voted down an opposition proposal for transparency on migrant offences, sparking Conservative Party criticism.

https://europeanconservative.com/articles/news-corner/labour-blocks-release-of-migrant-crime-data/

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EasternStandard · 29/08/2026 11:59

Myoldmansascouser · 29/08/2026 11:59

Why?
People need to know the fate of these poor females - it could be your sister or daughter.

It’s amazing the post that gets the !

What the family have faced has been atrocious.

NullaEffugium · 29/08/2026 12:00

Winter2020 · 29/08/2026 11:52

So all data that shows anything you don't want to be true is discredited?

Do you think growing up in a culture where women must be covered from the top of their heads to the tips of their toes and even, in some countries, stay away from windows lest they tempt men has zero effect on these men? Do you think all men all around the world are the same and have the same risk profile despite growing up in massively different cultures? Do you think that is likely?

Why don't we collect/publish the data and actually find out?

No, I’m not like that. If data is validated, then I accept it. The data presented here is raw, unverified, poorly and obviously manipulated. It doesn’t matter what it says because it’s not worth the paper it is printed on.

I have no vested interest other than to have data that accurately represents the reality and then we have a chance at determining root causes and then the solutions.

I am in support of collecting the data and having it professionally analysed by PhD level statisticians who specialise in sociology, preferably in crime. Their reports are what should then be released to the public with fact sheets in layman’s terms for easy understanding by the general public.

Yes I think growing up in a different culture affects people, but it doesn’t follow that growing up in a culture means the person will 100% agree with it and want to continue to live that way. The % that do agree and want to live that way are the least likely to emigrate. It is the % that find their home country and culture incompatible with their own values that will risk their lives or spend their life savings to get out of that environment and they will invariably choose to emigrate to a country that aligns with their own values.

ClarkeandNewman · 29/08/2026 12:00

Myoldmansascouser · 29/08/2026 11:56

This is what I could find out - so make of it what you will.

Freedom-of-information extracts of Ministry of Justice and Police National Computer data published in 2024–25 show that known foreign nationals accounted for roughly 14–15% of sexual-offence convictions in 2024 (commonly phrased as “one in seven”), with an additional share of convictions listed as “unknown” nationality that some outlets add to reach estimates as high as about 23% when combined .
Separate breakdowns focusing specifically on sexual assaults against women found foreign nationals made up about 26% of convictions in one recent year — a figure repeatedly cited by outlets and researchers using MoJ data.
At the charging and arrest stage, analyses by the Centre for Migration Control and force-level FOIs report thousands of arrests of foreign nationals for sexual offences — more than 9,000 in the first ten months of one recent year across 41 forces — and in London force data foreign nationals were reported to account for roughly 40–47% of those charged for sexual offences in 2024 when unknowns are excluded

What on earth do you imagine that tells us?

EasternStandard · 29/08/2026 12:01

poetryandwine · 29/08/2026 11:59

The ICO is not a court of law and their decisions can be challenged in court.

Well let’s see. We have a good FOI system and Labour’s objections were rejected. So if they could have used the better ones you think they have they are keeping it quiet.

ClarkeandNewman · 29/08/2026 12:01

Missingmymeds · 29/08/2026 11:58

Because if it was good news ...if the rates were lower in newcomers than statistics for natives in UK ..then government would be singing from rooftops how this was good for UK ...
But what government is actually saying is ...every area must take their share ,as that's only fair ...
That doesn't make it sound like something positive to me ....

But where is your evidence for any of this?

MaturingCheeseball · 29/08/2026 12:01

poetryandwine · 29/08/2026 11:59

The ICO is not a court of law and their decisions can be challenged in court.

That sounds rather sinister.

Myoldmansascouser · 29/08/2026 12:02

ClarkeandNewman · 29/08/2026 12:00

What on earth do you imagine that tells us?

That's for those reading it to decide. I've provided some information for perusal, so don't 'shoot the messenger'.

poetryandwine · 29/08/2026 12:02

MaturingCheeseball · 29/08/2026 12:01

That sounds rather sinister.

How so?

ClarkeandNewman · 29/08/2026 12:03

Myoldmansascouser · 29/08/2026 11:59

Why?
People need to know the fate of these poor females - it could be your sister or daughter.

And if it was, the last thing I'd want is ghouls delighting in the details on parenting forums. Such prurience is stomach turning to most of us.

EasternStandard · 29/08/2026 12:05

ClarkeandNewman · 29/08/2026 12:03

And if it was, the last thing I'd want is ghouls delighting in the details on parenting forums. Such prurience is stomach turning to most of us.

Don’t be silly you’ve spent your time working against the family’s wishes.

They have asked for this information.

Missingmymeds · 29/08/2026 12:05

ClarkeandNewman · 29/08/2026 12:01

But where is your evidence for any of this?

Well .. government is not releasing any information that would counteract any negative opinions..are they ..wonder why that is ...

Dreameth · 29/08/2026 12:07

Well that was a month ago, and my kid still goes to nursery next to an asylum hotel so… when’s that coming in?

MaturingCheeseball · 29/08/2026 12:07

poetryandwine · 29/08/2026 12:02

How so?

It sounds as if you support any method possible of suppressing the publishing of data.

ClarkeandNewman · 29/08/2026 12:08

Myoldmansascouser · 29/08/2026 12:02

That's for those reading it to decide. I've provided some information for perusal, so don't 'shoot the messenger'.

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I wouldn't even go so far as to describe you as a messenger!

Fabiansrule · 29/08/2026 12:08

Dreameth · 29/08/2026 12:07

Well that was a month ago, and my kid still goes to nursery next to an asylum hotel so… when’s that coming in?

Good question. Afaik, Labour haven't provided dates. Have you noticed any issues?

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placemats · 29/08/2026 12:09

Fabiansrule · 28/08/2026 16:25

Labour Blocks Release of Migrant Crime Data

'Victims of serious crimes and their families have joined forces to demand that the Labour government publish detailed data on offences committed by foreign nationals, accusing ministers of withholding information that is “clearly and legitimately in the public interest”.

Among the signatories are victims of high-profile sexual offences and families of murder victims. One signatory is a 14-year-old victim of a sexual assault in Epping allegedly committed by an illegal immigrant, in the same Essex town where asylum seekers were housed at the controversial Bell Hotel.
Fiona Goddard, a survivor of rape-gang grooming who has campaigned publicly about her experiences, has also signed the letter.

Eight relatives of Rhiannon Whyte, a hotel worker murdered by a Sudanese national, are also among those backing the demand.'

https://europeanconservative.com/articles/news-corner/labour-blocks-release-of-migrant-crime-data/

Why are you adding a link that's over a year ago when Starmer was Prime Minister and Jenrick a member of the Conservative Shadow Cabinet?

Starmer is no longer Prime Minister and Jenrick is a member of Reform, so no longer a member of the official opposition party, Conservatives.

Catza · 29/08/2026 12:09

Missingmymeds · 29/08/2026 12:05

Well .. government is not releasing any information that would counteract any negative opinions..are they ..wonder why that is ...

It's been explained multiple times in this thread by people with some knowledge of government structures and data analysis why this may be.

poetryandwine · 29/08/2026 12:10

MaturingCheeseball · 29/08/2026 12:07

It sounds as if you support any method possible of suppressing the publishing of data.

You have only to read my other posts to know that is grossly incorrect.

ClarkeandNewman · 29/08/2026 12:10

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EasternStandard · 29/08/2026 12:10

placemats · 29/08/2026 12:09

Why are you adding a link that's over a year ago when Starmer was Prime Minister and Jenrick a member of the Conservative Shadow Cabinet?

Starmer is no longer Prime Minister and Jenrick is a member of Reform, so no longer a member of the official opposition party, Conservatives.

The appeal is current.

ClarkeandNewman · 29/08/2026 12:11

Missingmymeds · 29/08/2026 12:05

Well .. government is not releasing any information that would counteract any negative opinions..are they ..wonder why that is ...

No. Evidence. It means backing up opinion with facts. It doesn't mean conspiracy and nudge nudge surmisal.

Myoldmansascouser · 29/08/2026 12:11

ClarkeandNewman · 29/08/2026 12:03

And if it was, the last thing I'd want is ghouls delighting in the details on parenting forums. Such prurience is stomach turning to most of us.

If you think anyone is 'delighting' in any of this, that says a lot more about you that the posters.
For some people it's OK if it's an anonymous female that gets assaulted, but to have to countenance the idea it could happen to one of their family members makes them irate.
Really they should use that ire to lobby MPs, councillors or anyone that has any authority in government/local government and ask what they are going to do about keeping W & G safe.

placemats · 29/08/2026 12:11

EasternStandard · 29/08/2026 12:10

The appeal is current.

Can you link to that?

EasternStandard · 29/08/2026 12:12

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You sound a bit overworked. Take a breather.

The family want the information. Labour and their supporters have ostracised them and treated them abominably. Thankfully they have the FOI system and support.

ClarkeandNewman · 29/08/2026 12:13

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