AIBU to be angry that my husband is unconcerned about women’s safety?

[Peedoffdoesntcutit]

To be pissed off with my husband. I said how upset I am that the child abuse and rape leaflet from the government is judged as necessary and we are continuing to let these men into our country who pose a threat to women. He just shrugged - I said doesn’t it bother you these men are coming into our society. We have daughters , I am a woman. I absolutely do not feel safe anymore where we live and would not walk on my own anymore. He said no not really. Absolutely furious with him. Does he not have to care as he’s a big tall man? I’m so pissed off, I’ve walked off and he’s given me the ick.

Absolutely

Statistically as a British woman you are most likely to be raped and/or murdered by your husband or partner, and children under 5 statistically are more likely to be murdered by a parent.

I'm not sure where that leaves your post Op?

Agree we have loads of homegrown perverts, why we need to increase the total number of perverts is beyond me. No-one should get a free pass because of their skin colour, including ethnic minority men. If you commit a crime as a non Uk national you should be sent to jail and then deported. If you come as an asylum seeker and then go raping then I’m going to struggle to take your claims of vulnerability seriously.

Yes, maybe she is working on how to make it relevant, when it is clearly not.

Blimey, deleted for asking a question when blatant prejudice and racism is left unchecked. Wow!

Me neither- I have no right to be scared of the men coming into our country by illegal means, some undocumented , and some who then go on to rape and abuse women and children and need a leaflet to explain the correct behaviour to them. I should have a word with myself and silence this perceived threat my brain has formed. You are 💯 correct and have changed my opinion- thank you 😘

Remember when it was black men who were the uneducated savages that were a danger to women? Just another scapegoat rather than deal with the real problem.

Do the 12/13 year old girls who've been kidnapped on their way to school and raped, care about that? Or the children given no protection coming out of school? Or the drunk, vulnerable women taken and gang raped, or the one on the bench, raped to death? The glee that the asylum seeker showed as he stabbed the woman worker to death and afterwards, should have got him deported, not cost us £60k a year.
You wouldn't leave your 13 year old DD to walk around most African countries, or Pakistan, but we allow the same men to congregate around schools and parks.
There's a lot of support for benefit cuts, but an unlimited budget for asylum seekers. We have a low birth rate because Universal credit, the two child cap, austerity, the bedroom tax was a punishment against the poor.

Was the tea analogy created for immigrants? I thought that was developed mainly for British men as there were so many of them raping women. Isn't consent part of the PSHE curriculum in the UK now too because us British people couldn't grasp what constitues as sexual consent?
I can't believe how daft people are to be falling over themselves blasting this after praising the introduction of education around consent for British men.

So you prejudiced? Maybe xenophobic. Are you as concerned with the number of white men who are convicted of child sex crimes, it’s going up yoy.

I believe your post says everything we need to know. I see you . . .

What do you see… please expand

No we do not have a safe culture for women in the UK - NEVER HAVE (although its arguably got slightly better in the last 20 years) but in large part women are not seen as equal or respected.
Tha vast majority of VAWG in the UK is purpetrated by british men.

Oh good lord. This is making me so cross.

There is no "safe culture for women" in the UK. In my life the people who would have benefited from a leaflet were the white British men.

Crack on. Work yourself into a froth. Heaven forfend you look behind you.

yanbu @Peedoffdoesntcutit . I dated a guy once and we got into a similar discussion, not about illegal or legal immigrants, but about rape and women’s safety and his attitude was exactly the same. He shrugged and said why are you telling me? What’s it got to do with me?. I just couldn’t look at him after that and ended it. Yuk! It’s called empathy.

The vast majority of VAWG in the UK is purpetrated by british men.

And that would be because the majority of men in this country are…British men.

Just because British men rape and abuse women and children, doesn’t mean it’s a fucking free for all for men from elsewhere to come to Britain to rape and abuse women and children too.

Why would they?

We already educate children about consent at school.

These leaflets are designed for grown ass adult men, who are well beyond that stage in life.

Exactly this. But there are women on here saying “how dare you be enraged by these illegal migrants coming in with their culture that is oppressive to women, when we have home grown problems.” Em yes we know that and we are enraged about that as well - but this thread and post isn’t about that but please feel free to make one about it yourself and chat about that freely. You can be enraged by both British men and those coming in to the country huddling their leaflet and not want either.

I’m afraid you’re horribly unaware of what’s happening if you think we have a safe culture for women.

Not safe, but safer.

I’ll take that any day over the alternatives.

Your deluded if you think white British men are safe for woman

So you’re saying- no woman can feel scared by the threat of men coming from cultures that are oppressive to women, in to our society because we must only speak about the men that are already living here? We must silence the concern and only speak about British (white - unsure why you mentioned colour?) men- or you will be so
cross?

Clearly you live a very sheltered life if you believe that. Look up statistics of white men raping/murdering/abusing their partners and daughters, race is irrelevant. Men are the issue.

I’m genuinely stunned at how ill informed so many of the comments are here. Here are some facts, for everyone who is committed to virtue signals to feel good about themselves whilst being completely wrong. Please, please do yourselves a favour and educate yourselves!

1. We DO have a safe culture for women in the UK, equal rights, and laws that protect us. That doesn’t mean that no British man abuses women, is misogynistic or commits rape, but they do so knowing it’s against the law. It’s completely different from other cultures where it’s legal to rape, where its legal to have sex with children, where women are legally viewed as less than men. Acting like the majority of British men are rapists, abusers and misogynists is just complete fabrication. In other cultures, it is the majority, it is their social norm!!!!!!
2. The UK does not routinely track or document the immigration status of criminal offences. This means it is not possible to track the crime or conviction rates for asylum seekers. This is a danger in itself, as currently the UK has no way of tracking the impact of asylum seekers on crime rates.
3. The UK does track ethnicity and nationality however, and that shows that Afghan nationals have a disproportionately higher per capita rate of sexual offences compared to the UK-born population. It’s so incredibly dumb to say more British men commit crime or sexual offences (you’re talking about absolute numbers, and they’re the majority of the population). If you look at the fact that Afghan men are a tiny percentage of the UK (but over 60% of those on small boats) alongside their crime rate per capita, you’ll realise that there is a real threat and risk. You people really need to understand the difference between total numbers and per capita!

I work as a doctor in A and E . I’m very aware of the abuse women suffer from men on a daily basis. In the UK, our laws protect women and say we can’t be raped or abused or attacked but yes of course this still happens- but it is less so than countries who oppress women’s rights. I have never said it is perfect, it’s far from it but it’s safer than the abuse women feel in for example Afgaistan under taliban rule. Where they are discriminated against daily by their taliban ‘government’ and can’t get an education or drive etc .

So yes the United Kingdom is very clearly legally and culturally different from these other Middle Eastern countries. Even though some men choose to not follow our law or rules.