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AIBU to expect acceptance when DH declines niece's wedding abroad?

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DestinationForOne · Today 08:26

Dh niece is getting married next year abroad.

MIL seems to be in charge of organising most of it and to be honest is acting like its mostly about her !
She keeps saying how she wants her dc all there as she needs them there etc.

MIL/FIL are offering to pay but only for dh flight and hotel as they want him there as their son and not a husband / father as want his focus ‘on the family for once’.
It’s a 5 day trip.

They don’t know but we have been ttc so we have no idea what next year might look like for us. Dh has declined going and this has cause ww3. We’ve never argued with them before and it’s quite upsetting . AIBU to think they should be more accepting of Dh declining to go?

OP posts:
Speakeasier · Today 15:08

farmlass · Today 09:49

I think that’s so sad when people say I only want the nuclear family there.
One of our greatest joys is seeing our kids happy with partners and their own kids and we’ve always included them!
I really don’t understand this attitude .
How did she think she got HER family without getting a partner and his family ,
Shes small minded and mean .
Don’t put yourself out .

I know it’s bonkers. My sons are my priority a lot of the time but their partners are their priority and that’s absolutely right.

I can’t imagine ever doing this. It wouldn’t enter my head. How crazy to consider your own grandchildren not part of your ‘real family’.

CreamSecond · Today 15:10

Well it’s nice that you thought it was great

I didn't think it was 'great'. I simply wasn't bothered by it. Neither were any of the other spurned spouses.

Notonthestairs · Today 15:12

CreamSecond · Today 15:10

Well it’s nice that you thought it was great

I didn't think it was 'great'. I simply wasn't bothered by it. Neither were any of the other spurned spouses.

But the OP’s husband is bothered.

ACynicalDad · Today 15:12

I got married overseas, my parents and siblings flew half way around the world for a long weekend, the rest of the family stayed, one s-i-l with a two month old baby. It wasn't a destination wedding and them coming meant the world to me, my wife and her family. I'd try to make it work for a few days.

Two2TooAlsoToToward · Today 15:12

How is the MIL even involved in the invitations for her granddaughter’s wedding? When we got married, we discussed the list with our parents only.

Bridesmaidorexfriend · Today 15:16

CreamSecond · Today 15:07

Their hope is that she will be heavily pregnant or just have given birth. He, rightly, doesn’t want to leave his family, who aren’t even invited, to go to his nieces wedding. So there’s no arguing whether that’s a proper excuse or not

Of course her being heavily pregnant of having a newborn would absolutely be a reason not to go. But op is not pregnant and there is no guarantee it will happen within the next 3 months. If it does then he can drop out.
But is it likely? I wouldn't bet on it.

But he doesn’t want to go? That’s the consequence of deciding to not invite his wife and kids. People have autonomy and they can decide not to go to things for whatever reason. If my DN was getting married abroad I would absolutely expect that she would be able to recognise that a lot of people won’t want to come. Destination weddings are lovely but they’re a lot of effort for guests. A neice’s wedding to me is low on the list of what I would make an effort to attend. 1 hour drive and my wife’s invited, yeah fine, an international flight, 5 days leave and my family aren’t invited. No thanks

ChalkOutlines · Today 15:17

ACynicalDad · Today 15:12

I got married overseas, my parents and siblings flew half way around the world for a long weekend, the rest of the family stayed, one s-i-l with a two month old baby. It wasn't a destination wedding and them coming meant the world to me, my wife and her family. I'd try to make it work for a few days.

I bet you didn’t prohibit your siblings from bringing their spouses or children though.

CreamSecond · Today 15:21

But the OP’s husband is bothered

And I think that's being a bit dramatic. This is AIBU.

Bridesmaidorexfriend · Today 15:22

ACynicalDad · Today 15:12

I got married overseas, my parents and siblings flew half way around the world for a long weekend, the rest of the family stayed, one s-i-l with a two month old baby. It wasn't a destination wedding and them coming meant the world to me, my wife and her family. I'd try to make it work for a few days.

I got married abroad, I invited only 20 close friends and family but I told them all not to feel obligated to come and had expected that none would. If we did it alone, I’d still have been happy. We had 6 attendees, it was lovely. But I didn’t even invited aunts and uncles because I never would’ve expected people to spend their time and money and I didn’t judge anyone for not comjng

rosiebr · Today 15:27

Your MIL is so weird. You don’t invite people to funerals. So you turned up and she deemed it odd because it was ‘family only’. If I was your DH, I would be starting to push away from what is an incredibly strange dynamic. So if your DC gets married in the future; your MIL would expect the only people to be there is her own sister and her niece (no partners including the one the niece is about to marry?). It is so so odd.

WhatIsntInAName · Today 15:29

SamTR1 · Today 15:08

Do your research before marrying into a bonkers family.

People don't choose to be born into a bonkers family. If they're a wet lettuce about them and continue to the bonkers give them a wide berth. But if they know their family is bonkers and stand up to it then why is it a problem?

rosiebr · Today 15:29

Oh wait strike that, it’s your DH niece so technically the same generation as your own children. So in future, niece will be excluded from your children’s weddings (should your MIL logic stack up). Does she not see how weird that is?!

Notonthestairs · Today 15:36

rosiebr · Today 15:29

Oh wait strike that, it’s your DH niece so technically the same generation as your own children. So in future, niece will be excluded from your children’s weddings (should your MIL logic stack up). Does she not see how weird that is?!

There are other teenage grandchildren so your theory may well be tested.

Although maybe MIL won't be as interested in their guest lists as they aren't core family to begin with.

StandFirm · Today 15:54

Perhaps a little morbid of me, but I dread to think how inheritance conversations will pan out...

Nofeckingway · Today 15:55

Is her name Peggy Mitchell ?

SerafinasGoose · Today 15:58

BakersKitchen · Today 09:50

I don’t understand why you can’t just say you’ll go and then if there is a genuine reason why you can’t (newborn, fertility treatment, late in pregnancy) at the time, explain that then? Seems like you are just borrowing trouble. Of course they won’t understand if you haven’t given a reason and they have offered to pay. It just looks like you don’t want to go which I suspect is true.

Edited

I disagree. If you know you don't intend to go then it's pointless playing elaborate games or being flaky later on. That really would be borrowing trouble. Better that everyone knows the score right off the bat and can plan accordingly.

Not wanting to go is a perfectly legitimate reason, albeit OP's DH isn't obligated to share it. Were I in his shoes, and had danced around MiL's golden child dynamic surrounding his DSis and her DD for most of my life, I probably wouldn't want to attend either. And that's okay. It's only a wedding: hardly the crime of the century. And it's a wedding that's going to cost time, resources and precious annual leave to attend: time that he might have preferred to expend elsewhere.

There's no necessity for people to twist themselves in knots over these simple situations, or to struggle so much saying a polite but firm 'no'.

WhereYouLeftIt · Today 16:38

DestinationForOne · Today 08:44

The reason he gave was that he felt they were rude in how they set out the expectation of him putting them first and excluding me and the dc. We haven’t told them about ttc for #3. MIL seems to be almost be acting in a jealous manner about dh being a husband / father and was talking in such a way about the dc ‘well of course if THEY are there it’ll ruin it and you won’t have time for anyone else’ and things like that just rude

Edited

"MIL/FIL are offering to pay but only for dh flight and hotel as they want him there as their son and not a husband / father as want his focus ‘on the family for once’."
"For once"? I'm very pleased to see that your husband's focus is on his wife and children, and not his mother. Always pleasing when a man is not a Mummy's Boy. Well done your husband! (Although I'll bet her 'for once' is an exagerration.)

Your MIL is not only rude but demented, and seems to see herself as a matriarch who need only snap her fingers and the whole family (by which she means those blood-related to her) must jump. Well, no - there's no 'must' about it. As your husband has just made clear.

"Yes we usually agree with most things and he’s pretty upset they are saying he needs to focus on the family as he regularly does !"
When you "usually agree", is it actual agreement or agreeing for the sake of peace? On the occasions when you haven't agree, what has MIL's reaction been before?

"The issue is that his sister is by far the favourite and her dd has an elevated position in the family so they think everyone should drop everything and be there to celebrate her."
And there's the nub of it.

"We’ve been together 15 years married 10"
And yet you are still not 'faaaaaammmmly' in the eyes of his mother. Sad

The only thing your husband can do is hold firm. His mother is totally in the wrong here, and can frankly go swivel. You and your joint children are his family, and his mother's inability to see that is her problem and hers alone. She most certainly does not get to make it your or your husband's problem. He's said 'no', and the 'no' stands.

It's undoubtedly upsetting to confront the reality that your mother sees you only as a child to be ordered about, and not as the independent adult you are; but - that's the reality she has now made clear to him.

Daygloboo · Today 16:41

DestinationForOne · Today 08:40

only dh is invited as they want him there in the capacity of his roles within their family so son/brother/uncle as if he attends with us he will prioritise his husband/father role and they want it to be ‘about family’ meaning them

Thats so rude. Tell them to fuck off.

PrettyPickle · Today 17:15

Just thought of something else I should have said in my minor essay I left earlier - MIL might also want to think about the message it gives to the poor guy that is marrying into the family - its a bit unwelcoming really and painting a clear picture of what he should expect in the future,

NattyRedFinch · Today 17:20

GeographicBox · Today 08:43

MIL is being an arsehole to pay for DH but not you or the kids. Whatever anyone else says, she’s basically saying she doesn’t care if you’re there or not, which is hugely disrespectful when you’ve been in the family for 15 years.

PPs who say the TTC is irrelevant are just being obtuse. Of course your husband wouldn’t want to leave you for the wedding if you might be heavily pregnant or have a <6 month old baby as well as your two existing children.

Only DH is invited.

FamingolosForDays · Today 17:38

Thats proper madness. So does she just not see your children then because they are not her family? I think my mum (and my PIL when they were around, bless them) loves our children more than they loved us!

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