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Reform want to cut PIP

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Daygloboo · 16/08/2026 09:15

Reform want to cut benefits for disabled people. They want businesses to pay more towards sickness etc. I find it repulsive that they want to do this. When will people understand that they are a bunch of self interested sharks who want to make a stack of dosh for themselves while in govt and that they font give a damn about anyone in need. Why cant the most vulnerable ppl who vote for them see thus. It's astonishing. It's ac joke. I eish ppl who get what Reform.iscreally about and how it manipulates would make sn extra effort to tslk to.ppl who dont seem to get it.

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EasternStandard · 16/08/2026 10:35

CaptainMyCaptain · 16/08/2026 09:29

I'm glad they have announced this because it might make some of their supporters stop and think as it will apply to a lot of them.

I don’t think this is the case as before the current dip in polls the only time Reform went down was when they talked about cutting the two child benefit cap.

Jenrick has since changed position on that as he probably realises their voters don’t want it.

On the op £50bn a year in cuts is a lot.

Orangemintcream · 16/08/2026 10:35

happybug1234 · 16/08/2026 10:32

This is exactly the thing I want to hear from a mainstream government. Cutting benefits is a key issue for me. I am sick of working my ass off for not much return. Meanwhile people claim tax free PIP are swanning around with a better lifestyle than us.

we went on holiday abroad recently and met a family with 3 kids, we got talking to them, they were in low wage occupations so wondered how they could afford the holiday, they then told us that all 3 kids had autism, so the PIP was paying for it no doubt.

Pretty sue anyone with a disability severe enough to get PIP would gladly swap lives with you.

x2boys · 16/08/2026 10:36

FirstdatesFred · 16/08/2026 10:30

It does seem ironic given the profile of reform voters. Not sure it’s the answer but I agree PIP has issues. I’ve always found it odd the monetary award has no connection to the actual extra costs you might incur or the cost implications of your particular needs. Hence it becomes part of a family’s general income. But then I acknowledge that it would be administratively impractical to have more different rates/require more details of how it’s spent.

Yes my sons DLA is part of our general income as will his PIP be once its awarded
But we spend a fortune on clothes , furniture etc as hes so destructive
Hes flooded the bathroom and kitchem several times causing a lot of damage as hes obssessd with running water.

probablyamunreasonable · 16/08/2026 10:36

PensionPTake · 16/08/2026 10:35

Kids don't get pip

Children get Disability Living Allowance.

Pickledonion1999 · 16/08/2026 10:36

KnittingBasket · 16/08/2026 10:35

They will have to reapply for PIP after normally 3 years.
The reapplication process is complicated, long drawn out, very worrying if you are relying on those benefits.

I know this because I support a relation with chronic disability. He is unable to function without ongoing assistance and is mostly bedbound. He will never be able to work again. He has to reapply every three years, often is told he no longer qualifies (on some technicality). We appeal - have several months of worry because the whole family would struggle if he lost his PIP. It's always reinstated but it's always a terrible worry.

The person you know will have to go through this soon.

Being alcoholic, addicted to drugs and suffereing after a stroke is far from most people's idea of 'a nice life'.

Edited to add - PIP is for people who need help managing their day to day life. That can mean helping them get to work - or it can me helping them get to the shop or the bath.0

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Loads are just having their awards automatically extended currently.

SodOffbacktoaibu · 16/08/2026 10:36

Mrsmch123 · 16/08/2026 10:29

I think the benefit system needs to be looked at. It's not about kicking people when they are down but to make benefits a short stop while people are struggling. Not a lifestyle choice as some people use it.

These are in work benefits we are discussing though. People have lifelong chronic illnesses so a stop gap isn't going to help them.

Livelovebehappy · 16/08/2026 10:36

Sounds good to me. Too many people climbing on this particular gravy train. And the fact you can claim regardless of whether you earn £150 a week or £150k a week is absolutely obscene. Of course people are going to rant and stamp their feet. Hard to have to give up something so generous when you’re used to getting it. The UK is slowing sinking to the level of a third world country. We need to save money, and in my opinion the first issue to look at is the Welfare bill.

placemats · 16/08/2026 10:36

Pickledonion1999 · 16/08/2026 10:32

This. It needs to be focused on the most disabled. I see way too many getting it for very little and people exaggerating difficulties to get it. The money saved needs to be ploughed into reducing NHS wait lists and better therapy.

Can you describe what most disabled means?

Also Reform want introduce an direct insurance based health care to replace the NHS.

What are your thoughts on the £5 million donation to Farage?

Orangemintcream · 16/08/2026 10:37

What is costing a shit tin is the interest repayment on the national debt but that never seems to be talked about.

GCAcademic · 16/08/2026 10:37

Reform will need to cut benefits massively. How else are they going to force people to do the jobs that we currently expect immigrants to do?

emuloc · 16/08/2026 10:38

Twogreenbottles · 16/08/2026 10:21

If we stopped funding all the scroungers that are coming over the Channel we might have some spare cash to spend on our own people.

The Channel Crossing Crisis has placed an enormous burden on the asylum system. In May 2025, the National Audit Office produced a report suggesting that the asylum system is likely to cost over £15bn over ten years.

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More nonsense.

EasternStandard · 16/08/2026 10:38

Orangemintcream · 16/08/2026 10:37

What is costing a shit tin is the interest repayment on the national debt but that never seems to be talked about.

True.

Pickledonion1999 · 16/08/2026 10:39

placemats · 16/08/2026 10:36

Can you describe what most disabled means?

Also Reform want introduce an direct insurance based health care to replace the NHS.

What are your thoughts on the £5 million donation to Farage?

I know someone who has gets PIP for anxiety yet is able to go out alone, ride a bike around the village, go away most weekends to her caravan. God knows how she qualifies for it. this is not severe disability.

ThePieceHall · 16/08/2026 10:39

happybug1234 · 16/08/2026 10:32

This is exactly the thing I want to hear from a mainstream government. Cutting benefits is a key issue for me. I am sick of working my ass off for not much return. Meanwhile people claim tax free PIP are swanning around with a better lifestyle than us.

we went on holiday abroad recently and met a family with 3 kids, we got talking to them, they were in low wage occupations so wondered how they could afford the holiday, they then told us that all 3 kids had autism, so the PIP was paying for it no doubt.

Kids don’t get PIP. Also, my teenager is blind and has a rare autoimmune disease that requires weekly chemotherapy. She would like a job, like her peers, but which cafe would hire a blind waitress or which shop a cashier who can’t see the banknotes or the contactless device?

SodOffbacktoaibu · 16/08/2026 10:39

Livelovebehappy · 16/08/2026 10:36

Sounds good to me. Too many people climbing on this particular gravy train. And the fact you can claim regardless of whether you earn £150 a week or £150k a week is absolutely obscene. Of course people are going to rant and stamp their feet. Hard to have to give up something so generous when you’re used to getting it. The UK is slowing sinking to the level of a third world country. We need to save money, and in my opinion the first issue to look at is the Welfare bill.

State pension applies too no matter what you earn. Should we scrap that too for people with loads of private pension? If not, why not? It's the same principle.

Can you show me the data where people earning £150k are bothering to claim PIP?

LuckyHazelFox · 16/08/2026 10:39

No wonder they are so unpopular on here.

Bikenutz · 16/08/2026 10:40

Areas with high numbers of benefit claimants, such as Clacton, strongly support parties proposing welfare cuts. Many voters either believe they won’t personally be affected because they believe their claim or those of friends and family are genuine and others are not, or prioritise other issues above their own financial interests.

LathkillDale · 16/08/2026 10:40

Meadowfinch · 16/08/2026 10:27

I spent the last two years working with Motability customers. Changes were made in July so claimants could no longer choose luxury models like BMW, Mercedes, Lexus etc. The lease now covers 10,000 miles a year rather than 20,000. Tyres are limited to six in a three year lease rather than unlimited. Insurance coverage has been tightened. They tried to include a black box style tracker but made such a hash of it, that has been suspended.

Now the scheme offers a more basic car to people who genuinely need one, and fewer people are applying for them because they can't have all the bells and whistles, leather seats and high end marques.

A sensible compromise.

DD1 has severe, uncontrolled epilepsy. When she has a seizure, she is incontinent. She wears incontinence pants, but there is a limit to what they can take. While we do have a waterproof mat for her to sit on in the car, she can still wet or worse over the edges of it. (She can have urine or diarrhoea down to her ankles after a big seizure)

We have leather seats in her Motability car, because they are easier to clean. Nobody wants to buy a three year old car, with cloth seats stinking of urine, etc? Do they?

Why make pronouncements on conditions, you haven’t even conceived exist?

Dontcallmescarface · 16/08/2026 10:40

malefields · 16/08/2026 10:27

Which makes no sense, someone earning that money does not need any additional money.

Well someone earning that money will still be paying far more tax than they will ever receive in PIP every year.

emuloc · 16/08/2026 10:41

Pickledonion1999 · 16/08/2026 10:36

Loads are just having their awards automatically extended currently.

Good, it is to help with the backlog of claimants, due to the inefficiency of the whole system. They should concentrate on sorting that out!

Daygloboo · 16/08/2026 10:42

EvelynBeatrice · 16/08/2026 10:28

Why do you think there are so many more people claiming this in the U.K. than in comparable countries? Don’t you think that there is any abuse of the system?

I read that their proposals are based on the Netherlands system. It’s not known for being an evil country that lets the poor and disabled starve.

I share your concerns about Reform but I do think that the benefits system needs reformed. Rather than reduce the bill, I’d like to see the benefits redirected to enhance the lives of those truly in need - the severely disabled, their carers, the parent of children who cannot work due to the severity of their offspring’s conditions. Young people who are scared depressed and insufficiently educated or socialised to work do need help - but lifelong disability benefits are not the answer.

The Netherlands and Scandinavia have built support into their systems in all sorts of ways and ppl are respected no.matter who they are. You can therefore have that system in the Netherlands because it's just one part of a support net that catches ppl when they fall. The whole mi ndset of those countries is different. Over here there is much more ill will and mean mindedness stoked by a miserable media that tells lies about disabled ppl. Ppl are brainwashed in this country ans Reform just uses that mindset to further divide and rule. There has been an orchestrated effort by the right now for a long time to divide and smash the working class so that the old solidarities dont exist. Once ppl are divided from each other there is no solid powerbase from which they can bargain for better conditions. And I'm no raving red flag waving lunatic saying that. I'm just an ordinary average person observing the shift that has been going on. I brlieve the British are a decent lot and for years now our goodwoll has been manipulated and sistorted for the benefit if a few..zPeople need to get a grip and wake up..

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Ginmonkeyagain · 16/08/2026 10:43

@charliehungerford fuck me, your bar for a "nice life" is pretty low if you think a drug and alcohol addicted stroke victim who is dependent on state benefits is living the high life.

x2boys · 16/08/2026 10:43

happybug1234 · 16/08/2026 10:32

This is exactly the thing I want to hear from a mainstream government. Cutting benefits is a key issue for me. I am sick of working my ass off for not much return. Meanwhile people claim tax free PIP are swanning around with a better lifestyle than us.

we went on holiday abroad recently and met a family with 3 kids, we got talking to them, they were in low wage occupations so wondered how they could afford the holiday, they then told us that all 3 kids had autism, so the PIP was paying for it no doubt.

Thats an awful lot of very personal info to share with a complete stanger
The kids would be getting DLA not PIP
If it makes you feel any better my son is profoundly autistic and currently gets the highest rates of DLA and we havent been abroad for 18 years
We last a caravan holiday two years ago
Not had any kind of holiday since as we cant afford it.

placemats · 16/08/2026 10:43

Pickledonion1999 · 16/08/2026 10:39

I know someone who has gets PIP for anxiety yet is able to go out alone, ride a bike around the village, go away most weekends to her caravan. God knows how she qualifies for it. this is not severe disability.

You haven't answered my question. What do you mean by severe disability? And can they not enjoy a day out?

Notmycircusnotmyotter · 16/08/2026 10:43

It'll be a popular policy. The benefits bill has to be tackled in a meaningful way, not tiny trims.

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