Reform want to cut PIP

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Reform want to cut benefits for disabled people. They want businesses to pay more towards sickness etc. I find it repulsive that they want to do this. When will people understand that they are a bunch of self interested sharks who want to make a stack of dosh for themselves while in govt and that they font give a damn about anyone in need. Why cant the most vulnerable ppl who vote for them see thus. It's astonishing. It's ac joke. I eish ppl who get what Reform.iscreally about and how it manipulates would make sn extra effort to tslk to.ppl who dont seem to get it.

Which website?
There are several - no wonder I am confused !

Why not ask for the accounts of your local hospital then or email the MOJ and the MOD for a break down of their costs while you are at it. After all your taxes fund these too.

The official Motability Scheme one.

My son has autism as a standalone diagnosis.
He is 7, doubly incontinent, entirely non verbal, doesn’t understand spoken language, has absolutely no danger awareness and requires 24/7 supervision.
Explain why the fact that it being a ‘standalone diagnosis’ is an issue in terms of him being eligible for DLA?

https://www.which.co.uk/reviews/new-and-used-cars/article/motability-car-scheme-explained-aGss89b6MbnY?sourcecode=717AHJ&utm_source=bing&utmmedium=cpc&utmcontent=generic&&msclkid=59d63aad62141a1bffb0502f707f5f60&utmsource=bing&utmmedium=cpc&utmcampaign=Cars&utmterm=%2Fnew-and-used-cars%2F&utmcontent=CarsDSA&gclid=59d63aad62141a1bffb0502f707f5f60&gclsrc=3p.ds&gadsource=7&gadcampaignid=22171889508

https://www.motability.co.uk/

https://www.motability.co.uk/whats-available

The motability website! The one that you visit if you're looking to get a motability car.

Tbh nor have they said what they will replace PIP with, except it will only go to serious cases - which is a subjective judgement. While I think the number of people with 'nerves' would probably be better served with a job I doubt that's what Reform is at.
I have a friend on PIP. Unable to walk very far, unable to read (brain injury), able to cook simple meals but not do any basic household jobs that require balance. Over retirement age also. Definitely deserves PIP. I don't know anyone who gets PIP who doesn't deserve it.
Farage wants to run a health service like the US health industry - i.e. privatise the NHS completely and make everyone pay insurance. This probably sounds fine to some people because they know that several other European countries use insurance based systems and they know that e.g. Bupa doesn't cost a lot. They also assume that a) insurance will be regulated and therefore affordable and b) that anyone who can't pay insurance (children, the disabled on PIP, the homeless) will be covered by the government (as is the case in those European countries that have such systems). That's not the model Farage is thinking of, but the US model which is much less generous than any European system (which are based on the idea that a healthy workforce is a good thing to have and worth investing in) and doesn't see healthcare as something which everyone has a right to, but rather as a cash cow.

They do - I have been working in the mental health field for 35 years and have seen it. Also people have told me that they got AI to fill in their form - using all the correct key words.
There are people advertising their services to help fill in their forms (for a fee) on social media to get a positive result. Much harder obviously with physical disabilities.

I googled LLI which states that it is 'not a formal medical or psycholgical diagnosis'. So I definetly didn't ingnore that!

How does working in mental health mean you’ve seen it, you’ll have nothing to do with the process. A GPs note will not get you PIP as it’s allocated on need not what medication your GP gives you or a diagnosis.

AI wouldn’t have helped me fill
in my DD’s as I had to cross reference everything with the mountain of evidence we had. AI doesn’t know what evidence we have.

Fair enough, which shows that some people on the severe end of the spectrum have a justfible claim (which I think we all know). Does it not bother you that people with mild ASD/ ADHD are claiming and impacted the overall amount of money avaliable to fund PIP, and social benefits?
I think it needs reviewing because the system as it stands is not fair on the tax payer, but also not fair on the most disabled people.

Which is how it is.

My DSD who was born prematurely at 25 weeks and has brain damage as a result has just been give 0 on her PIP assessment, despite being unable to cook because she is a danger in the kitchen to herself and others, and meeting every single daily living criteria and both mobility criteria because of poor vision caused by oxygen therapy and a ventilator as a baby in the NICU. She also has a 33-year documented history from clinicians, educational psychologists, family members, school teachers, and an overseas local authority that labelled her as 52% disabled for their equivalent of PIP when she was living there.

She will be granted PIP eventually but we have to go through the mandatory reconsideration process and possibly an appeal tribunal.

PIP is very difficult to get, even when applicants meet the criteria, so stop talking about it as if they hand it out like sweeties. It is insulting and offensive to those who need it.

Right, so you read DS had other several diagnoses (whether you understood the term LLI or not) and still decided to post “Clearly his diability isn't simply ADHD”.

LLI is life-limiting illness. It is abbreviated to LLI.

Well that might be the case for you but an EHCP is a legal document and they dont just take the parents word for it they also go off what school says and everyone involved in their care
My son is severley autistic and non verbal he presents this way in all settings i cant lie about his needs they are very obvious
If a child has an EHCP its becsuse the LA has robust evidence they need it.

There are a lot of young people who
get PIP for MH and spend the cash posting their shopping “hauls” on TikTok. It’s disgusting. Whole system needs
an overhaul to ensure genuine claimants have what they need.

Spending their money on hauls does not mean they are not genuine.

Reform also want employers to pay sickness pay and for them to have insurance to cover it. What happens if you go for jobs with pre existing conditions? You won’t get employed because employers won’t want high premiums. Not just the disabled but all of us. So then you’ll be royally screwed as you’ll have no money from employment to pay for healthcare either.

There is no mild adhd and autism as you have to reach the threshold of significant impact on life to get a diagnosis .

This one ? https://www.motability.co.uk/find-a-vehicle

or this one https://www.which.co.uk/reviews/new-and-used-cars/article/motability-car-scheme-explained-aGss89b6MbnY?source_code=717AHJ&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_content=generic&&msclkid=32d524b52d45143d94044e37385f669a&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Cars&utm_term=%2Fnew-and-used-cars%2F&utm_content=Cars_DSA&gclid=32d524b52d45143d94044e37385f669a&gclsrc=3p.ds&gad_source=7&gad_campaignid=22171889508

or this one ? https://www.motabilityfoundation.org.uk/about-us/motability-scheme

How did AI help with the assessment?

Okay, well you need to say that then, because another medical abbreviation that LLI is used for is Low Latent Inhibition, which is used in the context of ADHD/ ASD and is not a formal medical or psychological condition.

So why have numbers of claiments with these conditions sky rocketed and present at much higher rates than in other comparable countries?

What a song and dance. Do you know how to use Google or AI? Are you just trying to fill the thread so it closes?

I don’t. You don’t need to understand. Whether you understood the term LLI or not, it was clear ADHD wasn’t his only diagnosis.

I can google but not sure about AI.

That's what I've been trying to do - Google the information.

If the thread does close just open #2