Reform want to cut PIP

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Reform want to cut benefits for disabled people. They want businesses to pay more towards sickness etc. I find it repulsive that they want to do this. When will people understand that they are a bunch of self interested sharks who want to make a stack of dosh for themselves while in govt and that they font give a damn about anyone in need. Why cant the most vulnerable ppl who vote for them see thus. It's astonishing. It's ac joke. I eish ppl who get what Reform.iscreally about and how it manipulates would make sn extra effort to tslk to.ppl who dont seem to get it.

They don't "exchange it for a car worth 12 times the amount of the benefit". They use it to lease one for three years. The more expensive cars require a large deposit.

There is no such thing as "enhanced Motability benefit".

How do you know the benefit status of the people driving "Beemers"?

Fiction needs to convince the reader to suspend disbelief. Big fat fucking fail for you. 0/10

How do you suggest my son ‘earns’ his benefit then? Whilst he is an adult, he can’t walk or talk, uses oxygen, is tube feed, has daily seizures, doubly incontinent…shall I go on?

No
Those that get HRM get £80 / week which they can exchange for a car on the mobility scheme
For a high value car they will have to pay a huge deposit out of their own pocket.

"the dwindling bunch of taxpayers who fund them all"

The total number of income tax payers in the UK has increased significantly over the last 10 years, rising from roughly 31 million mid-decade to approximately 36.7 million by the 2023/24 tax year

No they are saying all employers will be responsible for the first two years of sick pay so that’s you too if you go off sick. Everybody else who has the misfortune of ever being ill or need to be off work will be forever penalised as no company will want you due to added risk of bills for them.

Yrs @ twogreenbottles. You"ve rrally got your info wrong there. What on earth are you talking about.

Read the post properly. I didnt refer to disabled people, I referred to the idlers who dont want to work and are being encouraged to stay idle by the benefits system

While I do think PIP needs some adapting, if Reform sticks with this they need to drop their anti working from home stance.

Working from home helps a lot of disabled people and people with mental health conditions and struggles stay in work. If you want as many people to work as possible, you need to support flexible working.

Because it’s being attributed in situations when it’s not really needed and without proper verification and that money could be better spent elsewhere or increasing it for legitimate claimants?

(Allegedly) just last week someone I know well and therefore also know the situation well has (allegedly) been attributed an (allegedly) insane amount that she frankly does not need. The statement written by the friend was (allegedly) grossly exaggerated, this person does not (allegedly) need prompting, picking up, help getting dressed etc. She does suffer with some anxiety but she gets everywhere just fine on her own two feet, the only place that seemingly sets off this anxiety is… the workplace.
She’s absolutely fine going out with friends, dates, looking after herself, etc. Her anxiety is hugely driven by extremely bad spending habits and financial irresponsibly, which is what should be addressed. I can bet anything that (allegedly) in 3 years time she’ll be in the same debt that she is now because this extra money is (allegedly) going straight into holidays and botox.

Allegedly, allegedly, etc and so forth.

Because If you don’t get the enhanced rate, you’ll have to return your vehicle.

I may tear up my Reform Membership over this ! Who is going to employ 55-60 year old disabled people with one leg or neurodiverse . Absolutely crackers and fallen right in the lap of the left wing media ! The country has many overlapping problems and has spending and huge debts as well situations on the ground that could spill over in to serious conflict. However, trying to save £50 Billion in an area which in reality is not saveable, because the state will in effect have to pay employers to employ disabled people. There is also a difference from a 20-30 year old disabled person who should be supported and encouraged to go to University and then 'Sponsored' in to a an appropriate job or career. This could be done by reintroducing new style 'Remploy' type organisations. There, is literally no chance of a 55-60 old disabled person being employed . So would a 55-60 year old be eligible for 'Health Insurance' because employment is impossible. Do the people at Reform not realise why Disability Payments are higher for disabled people, because Job Seekers is supposed to be 'temporary' where as Disabled Benefits are higher are because they are unlikely to ever work.

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I might...

Quite thankfully my son doesnt have any health issues
But at 16 hes totallly non verbal can only communicate on a very basic level
Has little undrstanding of the world around him.
Has the mind of a toddler etc , etc.

Doubt it. They'll vote for them anyway then be in the daily Mail with a sad face when they lose their pip.

They’ve said companies can take out insurance to cover the extra bills to them. In order to get better deals from insurance companies they’re going to have to show robust vetting processes re employment which will surely mean scrutinising medical records. Those with any history will be screwed and find it even harder to get work. It’s madness and so so stupid.

Spot on. Everything you pointed out is true. They are full of c*.They havent got one workable policy between them. Can you imagine the shambles. They'd make Boris's govt look like it had been run on the mechanism of a Swiss clock. What a bloody joke.

This is just word salad, you are not saying anything of note just sound bites.

I haven’t checked but how does that relate to % of population.
Of course more taxpayers. But you would expect an increase when the population has grown by millions over the last fifty years.
What has changed though is the number of self employed people. People who previously were PAYE and employed by their employer are now self employed. And pay far less tax because of it. Those figures have increased quite considerably.

That and the numbers of people and businesses that do not pay what they should. Shocking amounts of defaulters.

I suspect if you look as per % of population the number of taxpayers is not as healthy as it should be.

She has the enhanced rate and it was still crap. Much better for us to scrape together for a car for her and she keeps her monthly payment which is crucial.

If we stopped funding all the scroungers that are coming over the Channel we might have some spare cash to spend on our own people.

The Channel Crossing Crisis has placed an enormous burden on the asylum system. In May 2025, the National Audit Office produced a report suggesting that the asylum system is likely to cost over £15bn over ten years.

If that is the case why is it awarded to people who aren’t working. I know someone who receives it who hasn’t had a job for over ten years. They had a minor stroke a couple of years ago, applied for pip and got it. They are capable of working but don’t want to. They have an issue with both alcohol and drugs, and life is much easier without the responsibility of having to get up and go to work every day. They have a nice life.

Robert Jenrick has spent months telling us all how Labour policies are making things difficult for businesses.

Robert Jenrick is now telling us businesses will have to fund sick pay for employees for two years.

I heard they were going to target payments at folk with the most serious disabilities. Good idea imho.

It’s not a word salad, just a blatant (allegedly) case of misattribution of funds. I have no issue with PIP but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t need looking into so that situations like these are avoided and the money can be allocated to users that actually need the support.

How do we do that then? You know it got worse because of Nigel's Brexit don't you?

It definitely needs a solution. Let's hear some. "Stop the boats" isn't a solution, it's a sound bite.