Reform want to cut PIP

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Reform want to cut benefits for disabled people. They want businesses to pay more towards sickness etc. I find it repulsive that they want to do this. When will people understand that they are a bunch of self interested sharks who want to make a stack of dosh for themselves while in govt and that they font give a damn about anyone in need. Why cant the most vulnerable ppl who vote for them see thus. It's astonishing. It's ac joke. I eish ppl who get what Reform.iscreally about and how it manipulates would make sn extra effort to tslk to.ppl who dont seem to get it.

Even the DWP don't ask such things. The brass neck of some people on here is ridiculous.

Clearly his diability isn't simply ADHD and the PIP isn't really providing support for his ADHD symptoms it is his physical symptom. ADHD alone does not require feed pumps, seating, bed, rise and fall bath, changing table, nebs, hoist, through floor lift, etc. or motobility cars.

Where the voting public (and we do live in a democartic society) are bothered about the cost of PIP for ADHD, neurodivergence or depression is when it is a standalone diagnosis.

@KeepPumping

Farage is a performer, I think he likes being a disrupted.
To be PM ge's have to turn up to fhe office every day, and night, PMs questions etc etc.
He would be under scrutiny, be held accountable- the issue of the £5m shows he really doesn't like thato

I'm trying, as a voter, to understand what a parent of a child with ADHD (as an isolated condition) has to spend PIP on that all/ majority of parents don't have to spend on their kids.
Why is it crass to want to make an informed choice about the political party i vote for?

Absolutely, well said.

Perhaps you missed my pp where I said “DS2 has ADHD (among several other diagnoses including an LLI).” Or maybe you just ignored it?

Although DS2’s ADHD does result in higher electricity, water, clothing and food bills. It does result in equipment being bought. It did result in medical assessments costs. It has resulted in pre-action letters and independent assessments for EHCP purposes. It has resulted in more hospital trips.

DS2 does have a motabilty car. Even the LA acknowledge there is a need for transport.

I did also say I could continue listing costs associated with their disabilities. I would be here all day if I was to provide an exhaustive list.

It is none of your business. Explain why you think it is.

Sounds to me like they want to vote for a party who would take money off of disabled kids.

Most of these costs don't seem to relate to an ADHD or Anxiety diagnosis.

Cause we’re funding it?

It does a bit, doesn't it? With a side helping of "disabled people owe me an explanation of how they spend their money". Very Jeremy Clarkson-esque.

I will C&P my reply to the pp.

“Perhaps you missed my pp where I said “DS2 has ADHD (among several other diagnoses including an LLI).” Or maybe you just ignored it?

Although DS2’s ADHD does result in higher electricity, water, clothing and food bills. It does result in equipment being bought. It did result in medical assessments costs. It has resulted in pre-action letters and independent assessments for EHCP purposes. It has resulted in more hospital trips.

DS2 does have a motabilty car. Even the LA acknowledge there is a need for transport.

I did also say I could continue listing costs associated with their disabilities. I would be here all day if I was to provide an exhaustive list.”

I will add that DS1&3 have anxiety as part of their presentation. Several things on the list are related to anxiety. For example, the higher electricity and gas bills related to their EOTAS/EOTIS packages because part of the reason for EOTAS/EOTIS is anxiety, some of the equipment bought to try is related to anxiety. Some of the higher water bills is. Some of the higher clothing costs is. Some of the assessments for EHCPs are related. Some of the transport costs are. Some of the car parking costs are.

Stupid comment.

Do you want a breakdown of how pensioners spend their money too?

How much of your own taxes are going to @inthequietofdawn for her disabled child?
Just a guess, but I would think it to be several decimal points behind 1 pence.
So, that is how much of your business it actually is.

OK - was involved.

That's progress. So I think we can agree that you can't get a BMW through motability now, present tense.

And regardless, the fact that you have no idea how they were paid for suggests maybe you should educate yourself. The taxpayer pays no more for someone using their enhanced mobility element for a motability vehicle than someone who uses it for something else - e.g. using taxis etc.

And the taxpayer pays no more for someone getting a BMW (when they were available) than a Skoda.

Or those getting Child Benefit.

Could you post your medical records on here please if you've ever used the NHS. As a UK taxpayer who is funding your healthcare, I have a right to know.

All I was going by was reading the links, some of which refused to load so I couldn't copy & paste them.
That's why I said it was confusing - it would appear that some of them haven't been upgraded.
I can't "educate myself" as you put it because the information I am seeking isn't either clear or up to date. So don't get all imperious with me because some dealers can't produce data that's relevant.

A stand alone diagnosis for any of those those is highly unlikely to get you PIP as yet again a diagnosis does not get you PIP, need does. I have 4 in my house with ADHD, autism and a string of other diagnosis needing a lot of support. Only one gets PIP.

It's all there on the motability website. Search cars, filter for brands. Not complicated.

Some do get PIP ‘just’ because of ADHD. It is about the functional impairment rather than the diagnosis.

You are looking at it the wrong way. The PIP (which is for over 16s) isnt awarded on a what costs do the parent have that other parents dont have basis.

Its awarded for a set if specific care, communication and mobility needs if the person can evidence them and they get enough points regardless of the cause.

I dont really see why being unable to execute a journey unaided, as an example, suddenly costs less if the reason is adhd, not learning disability, or autism not visual impairment. It either costs more to not being able to do this thing (evidenced) or it doesnt cost more.

The first line of your link confirmed that BMW have not been available since 2025.

Well I didn't see it or it didn't load.