Reform want to cut PIP

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Reform want to cut benefits for disabled people. They want businesses to pay more towards sickness etc. I find it repulsive that they want to do this. When will people understand that they are a bunch of self interested sharks who want to make a stack of dosh for themselves while in govt and that they font give a damn about anyone in need. Why cant the most vulnerable ppl who vote for them see thus. It's astonishing. It's ac joke. I eish ppl who get what Reform.iscreally about and how it manipulates would make sn extra effort to tslk to.ppl who dont seem to get it.

The online form is exactly the same as the paper form !

As usual Mumsnet immediately sees a headline and declares all PIP will be abolished

PIP will be replaced by "Health Security Allowance". Is that not abolition of PIP?

2.89 million claimants will have there benefit claim modified or reduced but still get some benefits

That is not what Jenrick wrote in the Telegraph

Meanwhile, Health Security Allowance, a new form of regularly reviewed payment, will continue to support the gravely ill and severely challenged. Let me be very clear, we will never let down those who need it. In fact, these changes secure the system for those who deserve it for decades to come.

We will not pretend this is painless. Existing claimants will be reassessed over three to four years: we estimate that 2.16 million will keep their present cash entitlement in full, while 2.89 million will see theirs modified or withdrawn, concentrated where recent growth has been most explosive.

It’s all very well saying you want more benefits but you also have to say how you are going to pay for them. Remember we are £3 trillion in debt.

Where have Reform got these figures? How do they know that two thirds of recipients don't need it?

What account have they taken of all those carers only able to manage now because of the PIP their dependents receive?

All those poster banging on about how PIP is "easy to get", really should give it a go sometime if they truly believe that to be the case. it doesn't affect your salary so you've got nothing to lose...except your pride and dignity but who cares, think of all that lovely money. Oh and do come back and let us know how you get on if you can tear yourselves away from your luxury AI holidays in the Maldives and your top-of-the-range Beamers.

I think you need to get your info from a better source.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz977nxww1jo

So what you mean by severe ?
When i was mental health nurse i had paients whose depression was so severe they were catatonic and were treated with ECT some patients had weekly maintenace ECT
But there would be clear docunrnted eivdence of this

Just writing on a PIP you have severe anxity and Depression means nothing.

Amazing how they're going to reassess every claimant over three to four years! Apart from the fact any Reform government would do well to last 3-4 months, the DWP is so far behind with standard reviews that people are waiting upwards of a year for their renewal to be processed and many claimants are receiving surprise extensions to their awards of several years! How does Reform propose to manage this mammoth task?

Sure - who will pay it?

Pray tell, how he was able to get a Blue Badge. Your post is full of lies, and you know it.

So funny.

It’s always the snotty able bodied righteous idiots who “have a friend on PIP for anxiety” that like to shout the loudest about how OUR benefits should be managed to help with OUR disabilities and health conditions. And how we are such a “drain” on tax payers.

Well guess what. I am a tax payer on PIP!

You all sound like shit mates and completely bitter. And so so so uneducated. I’ve never seen anything like it.

Thick as fucking mince.

Well quite. My son is entirely non verbal and doesn’t understand any spoken language. Wondering what job they’ll be expecting him to get!

Ah but do you go round telling everyone you claim PIP
Do you announce it to everyone you meet?
And what rates you get?
Like all the friend of a friend posters.

I did read that.profoundly disabled people wouldnt be affected but they havent worked it all out yet.

I do indeed, whilst dropping my walking PIP stick and quickly picking it back up whilst announcing to the whole bus queue “oooh whoops! There goes my PIP stick!” Wink wink.

I hope your spending it all on spray tans and gel nails!

I didn't try to catch you out i just wanted to point out Psychiatrist whichever side of the pond are not always able to tell who is genuinely mentally unwell. As a mental health nurse you must know this.

Don't forget about botox as well!

But there are no objective tests to measure anxiety. It is all patient telling coGP or consultant symptoms. Anyone can look these symptoms up online. Or can you name one objective test?

And your drink and drugs...although tbf drugs are taken regularly in this house..36 of the buggers twice a day between the 2 of us. It's party central here.

Diamond encrusted nails. 🤑🤑🤑
To match my diamond encrusted Maserati

From what I understand no NIC for employers employing disabled people but they pay into an insurance scheme instead. I think details are coming out tomorrow.

So you are suggesing mental health professionals are all thick and cant tell when somones genuinley anxious
To somone whose swinging the lead?

No objective tests for some MH disorders means many people fake them. It's easy to look up symptoms on the internet then claim to GZp and consultant you have them.

No it isn't. The consultant also makes their own observations that are also recorded. Thing like how the patient talks and what they talk about, their body language, appearance (like if they are appropriately dressed, hygiene), how their mood seems at that time.

Some people sat in front of a consultant do not think they are ill at all.