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AIBU for feeling devastated about my graduate daughter's pregnancy?

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Postmanpatri · Yesterday 13:40

Hi, my DD is 21, she will be 22 in January. She has just graduated from university, and got married last month. I’ll be honest I wasn’t thrilled about her getting married at 21, she’d been with her boyfriend since secondary school.
However today she has announced she is pregnant. She told me it wasn’t planned, but they are keeping the baby. She still lives at home with me but has committed to finding somewhere else to live, I’ve told her there is no hurry.
Im going to be honest I’m devastated, she was the first person in our family to go to university, she got straight As in her highers and advanced highers, she is due to start teacher training, but has said she might not start as she is due in February.
I am so worried she is throwing her life away, her husband is a lovely boy but he is only 22, he’s a joiner so he puts in a lot of hard work but it’s not high earning.

AIBU to feel like this? What do I do?

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GoldenSandy · Yesterday 19:46

Postmanpatri · Yesterday 19:41

I’m guessing you haven’t read all my comments.
Where we live 2 beds are about 120k-150k, with some in the town her husbands parents live in just 10 minutes up the road at 100k.
They have 12.5k saved and her DHs parents have offered them 6k. Her DH makes 35k, did an apprenticeship so no student loan.
DD makes £13 an hour at the cafe doing 20 hours a week so call that £13000 a year before overtime is added in, then she tutors on top of that.
In much of the county they wouldn’t stand a chance, I know that, but we aren’t in an expensive part of the country by any means and they don’t need to rush out of here, I’m happy to have them if they need/want more time to save.

They sound like they are right on track OP. Ignore all the jealous middle aged women. Your DD and her husband sound sensible and mature.
You must be so proud of her saving up throughout university. He's got a great job and it will certainly pay the mortgage on a £150k house until she's trained up :)
I hope some of the positive posts have reassured you that everything is going to be okay! We want the best for ours kids!

oreopanda · Yesterday 19:47

Postmanpatri · Yesterday 14:13

They did offer to move out at various points but it seemed pointless when they could live with me (I’d be totally alone otherwise), and not worry about rent. They have always helped with the bills, they are cleaner than I am and don’t cause me any trouble at all, her husband has practically redecorated my whole house, keeps my garden lovely and DD is always insisting I sit down and let her make dinner. Whenever I’ve had a doctors appointment or similar DD has always made an effort to be around to drive me to it and does the same for my mum. I don’t have any issue with them living here.

they sound like a lovely, thoughtful and considerate couple - you must be very proud.

GoldenSandy · Yesterday 19:55

Postmanpatri · Yesterday 19:02

Thank you everyone, DD and I just went for a little walk and had a chat.
She told me they have about 12.5k in savings as she was never spending her full maintenance grant/loan while at uni and was keeping money back and her husband has been putting in £500 a month.
She said she doesn’t really want to rush to start her teacher training or go back to studies/work after the baby arrives as she wants to be able to give as much as she can to being a mum in the early days and feels she wouldn’t be able to do either well if she split her attention.
I have told her she has my support. She seems a mix of terrified and excited which I’d say is probably one of the more common feelings to a surprise pregnancy!
I feel a bit better now.

You've raised a lovely daughter and I suspect you will love being a grandmother - and all the extra years you will get with them! Congratulations 🎉

MeetMeOnTheCorner · Yesterday 19:56

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researchers3 · Yesterday 19:56

I don't think YABU for feeling disappointed for her, I'd be gutted for my DC if it happened that way, and at that age, because I'd hope for them to travel and establish careers/have fun and freedom first etc.

BUT, Ive read your posts about your daughter and her husband; they both sound lovely and responsible, and I'm sure they'll form a lovely family together - and an extended family with you.

I would definitely encourage them to move out though and sooner rather than later well before the baby arrives.

It's not ideal but 35k is a good wage at their ages and your DD can establish her career after the baby comes. Would agency/supply in teaching be an option? Much better money than cafe work.

Postmanpatri · Yesterday 19:59

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There is absolutely no need to be so snobby. I’m sure your big home is beautiful and your children are very impressive, that does not give you the right to look down on others or be so bloody rude.
You don’t know me or my family.
We may not live in some fancy house but we aren’t cruel or snobby and I know I value being a nice person more than I value money, and I hope my DD is the same.

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GoldenSandy · Yesterday 20:02

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It's interesting you haven't said what your profession is or if you ever had a proper job, so I can see the problem here is that you get your self worth through your kids and that's why you're struggling with this topic.

Perhaps you wish you'd had a career yourself and are now seething because you gave work up for your kids and can't stand someone else doing both.

Your reaction to being jealous was to prove my point more by listing all the things you have. Other women shouldn't be your competition. Lots of people have nice houses and they usually pay for them with their jobs, and somehow manage to have children too.

The young lady is buying her first house at 21, sounds like yours took ten years to buy hers 😂 you can't stand it can you. The way you dismiss her for working in a coffee shop, yet somehow she's saved for a mortgage with her husband.

GoldenSandy · Yesterday 20:05

Postmanpatri · Yesterday 19:59

There is absolutely no need to be so snobby. I’m sure your big home is beautiful and your children are very impressive, that does not give you the right to look down on others or be so bloody rude.
You don’t know me or my family.
We may not live in some fancy house but we aren’t cruel or snobby and I know I value being a nice person more than I value money, and I hope my DD is the same.

Well said OP. People who are happy with their lives don't look down on others. She doesn't list her achievements only her kids. It says a lot to me.

schashme · Yesterday 20:13

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And yet you embarrass yourself with a post like this. Not very classy for someone pretending to be high class.

Warmlight1 · Yesterday 20:14

Postmanpatri · Yesterday 19:02

Thank you everyone, DD and I just went for a little walk and had a chat.
She told me they have about 12.5k in savings as she was never spending her full maintenance grant/loan while at uni and was keeping money back and her husband has been putting in £500 a month.
She said she doesn’t really want to rush to start her teacher training or go back to studies/work after the baby arrives as she wants to be able to give as much as she can to being a mum in the early days and feels she wouldn’t be able to do either well if she split her attention.
I have told her she has my support. She seems a mix of terrified and excited which I’d say is probably one of the more common feelings to a surprise pregnancy!
I feel a bit better now.

Honestly she sounds awesome

Allseeingallknowing · Yesterday 20:15

Hope you’re feeling better about it OP! I had a baby at 18 and 21 and still managed to have a career later. I’m sure your daughter will be just fine!

MeetMeOnTheCorner · Yesterday 20:18

So the taxpayer funded her saving and she’s not paying back her loan.

schashme · Yesterday 20:21

@MeetMeOnTheCorner why do you think she won’t pay back her loan?

NameChangeScot · Yesterday 20:26

MeetMeOnTheCorner · Yesterday 19:36

@NameChangeScot So you think this DD and her DH will get a mortgage? On what earnings? A coffee shop assistant? What deposit? It’s just so different now. It’s foolhardy not to have a career before dc. And a bit of self employed baby music really won’t get a mortgage!

Her husband is on £35k, they've got £12.5k deposit saved and she has some income herself. I stay in similar area to what the op has described and they'll be just fine on that and should be able to get a mortgage for a modest propert. It might not be your ideal but they're in a better position that most young people are.

Clarabell77 · Yesterday 20:31

ExOptimist · Yesterday 13:53

I'm with you OP, I would have been devastated too. She hasn't even started any career, of course she can do it later but it will be a lot lot harder with a baby or toddler.

I expected my children to get well established in careers after university, own a home, before they married and had children, which is what they did. That's why they waited till over thirty even though they'd met at university over a decade before.

Do you know why she decided to carry on with the pregnancy?

Will they be able to afford a home of their own on his salary alone? She presumably will get very little maternity pay.

Do you know why she decided to carry on with the pregnancy?

Because she wants to.

Clarabell77 · Yesterday 20:32

MeetMeOnTheCorner · Yesterday 20:18

So the taxpayer funded her saving and she’s not paying back her loan.

Oh pipe down. Her husband works/pays tax.

Changeisstillpossible · Yesterday 20:32

I think some posters don't realise how affordable homes can be in some parts of the country.

My DD and her husband are still in their 20s, own their own flat ( no big deposit gifts from parents!) and are doing fine.

I'm sure this couple will, too

Leapintothelightning · Yesterday 20:35

foursquares · Yesterday 17:57

I'm with you, I'd be devastated too. She's still living you, and in a relationship with a nice guy, but their both young, haven't experienced much real life yet, so relationship might not last. This is probably wrong decision...hope it end up well.

Oh give over. Who’s to say the relationship won’t last just because they settled down young?

NancyThompson · Yesterday 20:36

@MeetMeOnTheCorner some very unpleasant posts from you.

Clarabell77 · Yesterday 20:37

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Well you don’t come across as being very happy.

rainbowunicorn · Yesterday 20:41

NancyThompson · Yesterday 20:36

@MeetMeOnTheCorner some very unpleasant posts from you.

Thats pretty standard for that particular poster.

user293948849167 · Yesterday 20:59

I actually think doing it this way might become the “new normal”.
The current fashion has been go to uni and have your career first then have babies in late 30s even early 40s, but that isn’t necessarily the best way. It’s physically better to have children younger and many women have fertility issues by the time they get to over 35.
Maybe the younger generation are right that having a family first is better.

Warmlight1 · Yesterday 21:00

MeetMeOnTheCorner · Yesterday 20:18

So the taxpayer funded her saving and she’s not paying back her loan.

You can't when you are having a baby. The system is arranged so that people pay it back when their income hits a certain threshold. Surprisingly, the people who set it up knew about women' tendencies to get pregnant and decided not to stipulate stuff around that. Because they weren't Nazis.

mathanxiety · Yesterday 21:38

MeetMeOnTheCorner · Yesterday 20:18

So the taxpayer funded her saving and she’s not paying back her loan.

You are possibly not aware that loans get sold off in tranches to investors, so the taxpayer gets a certain amount on the pound but the investor gets more.

Dancingsquirrels · Yesterday 21:47

Postmanpatri · Yesterday 19:41

I’m guessing you haven’t read all my comments.
Where we live 2 beds are about 120k-150k, with some in the town her husbands parents live in just 10 minutes up the road at 100k.
They have 12.5k saved and her DHs parents have offered them 6k. Her DH makes 35k, did an apprenticeship so no student loan.
DD makes £13 an hour at the cafe doing 20 hours a week so call that £13000 a year before overtime is added in, then she tutors on top of that.
In much of the county they wouldn’t stand a chance, I know that, but we aren’t in an expensive part of the country by any means and they don’t need to rush out of here, I’m happy to have them if they need/want more time to save.

I think there's a lot to be said for living in a more affordable part of the country and having a family young

Your DD sounds v sensible

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