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To agree with Andy Burnham that it’s about time the middle classes took their fair share

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Morningteacup2 · Yesterday 18:11

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2026/08/11/burnham-middle-class-areas-must-take-more-hotel-migrants/

Not a huge fan of Labour I must say, but this is well overdue!

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RosesAndPeoniesAndIrises · Today 14:31

Shitshowpolitics · Today 13:56

What “hatred of white people” are you referring to? Please quote it, because disagreeing with your views on immigration isn't hatred of white people. Racism is a serious accusation, and throwing it around because somebody challenges sweeping generalisations about migrants rather trivialises actual racism.

Read the post I quoted.

Outnumbere · Today 14:31

Maybe Andy Burnham could start by fixing the housing crisis first.
Where exactly are these people going to live
I live in a rural area.
Very few migrants.
But there aren't any houses.
Where is he spreading the load too?

Persephonia1966 · Today 14:32

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Shitshowpolitics · Today 14:32

LuckyHazelFox · Today 14:17

This can't be a serious post.

Entirely serious. Rose said the “hatred of white people is quite blatant”, so I asked her to identify what she was referring to. What's unserious about asking someone to substantiate an accusation of racial hatred?

GunnelVallquist · Today 14:32

Did anyone see the joint post made by Giorgia Meloni and Mette Frederiksen?

Powerful stuff.

RosesAndPeoniesAndIrises · Today 14:33

MrsMavisPike · Today 14:07

@BagsyTimBradford and @RosesAndPeoniesAndIrises

I agree with you both.I think it is best not to engage with @DebbieSavage.

There are people who are trying to put a positive spin on this, such as @LakieLady and @Persephonia1966. I couldn't disagree with them more- a position shared by the majority on this thread-but they are not putting forward outrageous posts-they are here to engage.

@DebbieSavage is clearly here just for giggles and to see how many people take the bait. In reality, I strongly suspect she is more in agreement with those who are against this then those who are for it but she chooses just to be silly rather than putting forward her ideas in a genuine way.

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Yes, I completely agree. Definitely not posting in good faith and I will not reply to that poster any more.

GunnelVallquist · Today 14:35

It is NOT racist or xenophobic to want to control your borders.

It is also not racist/ xenophobic to state that men from certain countries/ cultural backgrounds are more of a threat to women and girls. That is just a fact, no matter how much the left like to push back on this.

MrsMavisPike · Today 14:37

GodDamnitDonut · Today 14:28

I think so too, I think give it another decade and people won’t even be offended to be called racist anymore.

I think there is a sizeable chunk-myself included-for whom that word holds no power.

It has been thrown around so much and applied to so many things that are not racist, that its currency is much debased.

It used to be, in real life and on these boards, that people would quake if that term was used against them. We had people fretting about being racist if they braided their child's hair or called an Indian Takeaway, an "Indian". You don't see so much of that any more.

Now, many people now longer care, it's often met with a retort like, "So what"". It has actually started to be laughed at and that usually signifies the end.

EasternStandard · Today 14:37

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Why?

RosesAndPeoniesAndIrises · Today 14:38

Persephonia1966 · Today 14:27

Plenty of people have suggested the Navy fires on the boats or in some way "fights" them. Usually when you sink a boat out at sea the people on it drown. So the drowning is inferred.
I agree, that people avoid actually using the word drowning, but thats just moral cowardice.

If not shooting on boats then what would be the preferred method to stopping them coming that isn't either stuff about making conditions "less luxurious" (so reducing the three meals a day to two or one presumably), sending them to El Salvador prisons? The only other solutions are things the UK government is already doing, or liberal left policies like openyup safer asylum routes.

So many strawmen ….

LakieLady · Today 14:38

MrsMavisPike · Today 10:37

😂😂😂😂😂

If, for one second, I believed this to be true-who paid for all their degrees and training?

Was England unable to put forward one native person who could have benefitted from the massive privilege they were given?

The psychiatrist worked as a psychiatrist in his country of origin, the TEFL teacher taught English in his home country before he came to the UK, and I don't know about the surveyor, but he had excellent English and was plainly very well-educated.

My archaelogist friend was a journalist prior to coming here. She didn't come by boat though, she came across the channel in the boot of a car and claimed asylum when she arrived at Dover.

Windsurf · Today 14:39

Shitshowpolitics · Today 14:32

Entirely serious. Rose said the “hatred of white people is quite blatant”, so I asked her to identify what she was referring to. What's unserious about asking someone to substantiate an accusation of racial hatred?

Would you ask this if it was the other way around?

Persephonia1966 · Today 14:39

RosesAndPeoniesAndIrises · Today 14:38

So many strawmen ….

Suggest some alternatives then.

BermudaRhombus · Today 14:40

Seems like a sensible idea to spread them to better areas. Plenty of footage online of the sorts of places these poor refugees are being sent and it’s grim. No wonder they end up surrounded by a baying mob of toothless simpletons wearing union flag capes and carrying pitchforks.

blackpooolrock · Today 14:40

I think this is about letting these illegal immigrants vote. Burnham is going to move them into areas who don't have a majority of labour voters..

This is about bolstering the labour vote - nothing else.

GunnelVallquist · Today 14:40

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I am not going to bother running this through Google translate; if you have something to say to me say it in Swedish or English please (my Spanish is a bit rusty these days)

Paganpentacle · Today 14:41

NorthXNorthWest · Yesterday 18:24

That is exactly what is wrong with this country. We don't fix shit, we just spread it around so more people can share in the misery.

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And seeing as they have up to now been dumped in cities and poorer areas already struggling it hasn't impacted the middle class leftie 'lets all be nice' brigade.
Anyone who says otherwise has been called far-right/racist/Nazi for expressing concerns.
A case of ... you wanted it, you can have it.
Brilliant.

ChattyKnickers · Today 14:41

LakieLady · Today 14:38

The psychiatrist worked as a psychiatrist in his country of origin, the TEFL teacher taught English in his home country before he came to the UK, and I don't know about the surveyor, but he had excellent English and was plainly very well-educated.

My archaelogist friend was a journalist prior to coming here. She didn't come by boat though, she came across the channel in the boot of a car and claimed asylum when she arrived at Dover.

What danger was she escaping in France.

Nuthatch26 · Today 14:41

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Why have you written your post in Russian? How does that help your argument?

LuckyHazelFox · Today 14:41

Shitshowpolitics · Today 14:32

Entirely serious. Rose said the “hatred of white people is quite blatant”, so I asked her to identify what she was referring to. What's unserious about asking someone to substantiate an accusation of racial hatred?

White people are constantly being called racist for discussing immigration concerns. I don't recall seeing any evidence of that. What makes you think you're owed any?

RosesAndPeoniesAndIrises · Today 14:42

GunnelVallquist · Today 14:32

Did anyone see the joint post made by Giorgia Meloni and Mette Frederiksen?

Powerful stuff.

Please could you tell me who they are and point to their post?

parkezvous · Today 14:43

Hoardasurass · Yesterday 18:22

Nope they all need to be deported immediately not housed and allowed to stay.
Nobody should have to put up with these men in their community

Exactly this

GodDamnitDonut · Today 14:43

RosesAndPeoniesAndIrises · Today 14:42

Please could you tell me who they are and point to their post?

Oh just two European Prime Ministers, nobody important…

BermudaRhombus · Today 14:44

GodDamnitDonut · Today 14:43

Oh just two European Prime Ministers, nobody important…

this has to be a wind up 😆

LuckyHazelFox · Today 14:45

I'd love to have seen the scenes of lefties scrambling to see if their leafy suburb was on the hit list.

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