To agree with Andy Burnham that it’s about time the middle classes took their fair share

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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2026/08/11/burnham-middle-class-areas-must-take-more-hotel-migrants/

Not a huge fan of Labour I must say, but this is well overdue!

Yes I agree with this proposal

This has long been an issue that high levels of immigration and housing of migrants has been in in areas where that are predominantly working class and have low investment and higher social issues

also the case for hostels for ex offenders/domestic violence and recovery hostels

this all add pressure to local services and a feeling of communities not begin treated fairly and equally

Nor sure who they’re going to direct your attention to once the immigrants have gone.

The Debbie wind up question is an interesting one as it does read like she's done a distance learning PhD in Guardian Articles about the Disgusting Homogenous British and How to set a Dating Apparatus (sic) to View Handsome scammers Young Men from Exotic Locations to relieve your Boredom with your Old White Man of 45 years.

There's many of these women at the Stand up for Rapists demos at hotels.

Why not just read the post I was replying to? I would think it’s fairly obvious what hatred of white people I was referring to and clearly plenty of people understood and agreed with my post from the reactions I can see.

Sometimes I feel I'm living in a parallel universe where everyone else is wandering around going la-la-la-la
Have they not got eyes?
Do they not read the news?
'Being nice' has a lot to answer for..

Yes, and a forum for mums. Half of whom will be raising little girls, for goodness sake.

Thank you!

I don’t think this reflects the current situation anymore.

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Yes, thank you!

Me too!

The floating barriers works because the area people are swimming is very short. It is just a small distance around a headland and doing it by water creates a loophole that means they can't be returned as easily as if they had gone by land. After the (very obviously coordinated) mass movement of people into Ceuta Spain put the barriers in place but those barriers won't stop people swimming over them. They aren't impenetrable. They just close a specific legal loophole

If you read my posts I don't have a problem with trying to stop the exploitation of desperate people by criminal gangs or foreign governments. Which is what a lot of the "illegal immigration" kerfuffle is caused by. What happens on these threads though is you getting people either coming up with solutions that are beyond the pale and unworkable (sinking boats) or not actually saying what they think should be done to stop the boats at all. Instead it's just an opportunity to engage in a collective orgy of rhetoric about rapists, white women who are so stupid they probably have it coming to them, useless liberal lefties, the destruction of English culture. Any actual solutions are smeared as useless. But asking for alternatives is making straw man arguments.
And then people say they are being demonised/called racists etc but if you look back most of the most unpleasant language has been used by those same posters. There is some imagined persecution going on

And you have been posting for a long time. In the past there have been things we've agreed on and things we have disagreed on but it's completely expected you would be on a thread like this arguing with me. It is suspicious when these threads are swamped with large numbers of posters who are apparently first time posters and only want to talk about this one issue. Some of them will be name changes sure. Some of them just seem to want to stir up division/call people names or parrot the same phrases again and again without actually engaging properly. Even if you disagree with me fundamentally this must also be obvious to you?

My ex was in the navy when Saigon fell, and they went out in small patrol boats to rescue people fleeing Saigon in even smaller boats.

I've no idea if the RN still has many patrol boats though.

Exactly.

Wake up ffs.

And please, for the love of God, don’t trot out the old ‘we have rapists in this country’

I did read it. The post you replied to said:

“Good, it's about time there was more diversity where I live.”

Where exactly is the “hatred of white people” in that sentence?

Wanting more diversity isn't synonymous with wanting fewer white people, and it certainly isn't an expression of hatred towards white people. You've added that interpretation yourself.

And other posters reacting positively to your comment doesn't turn your interpretation into evidence of racial hatred.

It is even more applicable today than it was just a year or two ago.

I believe you all day long Emerald..

It's American democrat boomer slop isn't it? Cookies?

The Guardian reader's favourite meme.

No, it really really isn’t.

And please don’t try to blame the millionaires and billionaires…that’s not what this is about.

Conflating the two issues really doesn’t help.

What do you mean?
Do you think people are turning against asylum seekers?

For the pp who you answered to in Russian which was deleted? No I don’t see why that was different to the majority view on this thread.

https://ecpat.org/story/the-sexual-exploitation-of-children-in-hungary/

Hungary has very big problems actually. That's a distraction from the subject at hand because the sexual exploitation of women and children in Hungary doesn't make the UK more or less safe and isn't really relevant to our arguments about migration.

But I don't think it helps to hold up countries with serious problems as being"OK" because that fits an argument. I am sure Hungry is a safe country to walk at night as a woman. It also has a huge problem with CSE and the sex trafficking of women to Western countries. This has been exacerbated by high levels of corruption allowed by the previous Orban government. I don't say this to "vilify" Hungary but because it is true.

Must watch out for the next time somebody's called a racist. I might tag you in so you can explain to them what you've just said here. In fact, somebody's already called this a racist thread.

Do you really think all the arrivals are genuine asylum seekers and none are economic migrants?

We’ll have to disagree, I imagine.

“Good, it's about time there was more diversity where I live”

”There is too big a percentage of white people here”

”I don’t want there to be in an area where there are only white people”

”It’s better to have other races in an area, not just white people”

All these types of statements express hatred of white people (or at best mindless parroting of viewpoints put forward by people who hate white people).

Btw I didn’t say that people agreeing to my post proved I was right. I was pointing this out as you seemed confused what expression of hatred I was referring to whereas I, and others, thought it was quite clear.

This is what I mean…I was thinking of a way to answer that question.

But how can you when it’s phrased like that?