Butt on display at lunch in south of France

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I am currently having lunch in a beach restaurant and a girl with a lovely toned body is wearing a tiny thong with full ass on display. This seems to be a fashion thing and there are lots of women wearing the same cheese cutter! People are staring and some women are laughing. I find it a horrible trend and I am wondering what others think.

Oh, DO tell us why not, Gloria.

But you never answer questions.

And I’d add that to NOT see ourselves as animals is one of the reasons we’re in the mess we’re in, ecologically and economically.

So much human behaviour is about territory, sexual rivalry, the urge to pass on our genes etc. Crazy to deny it.

It’s just a discussion. Seriously . It’s fine to have discussions about these things . Sexual behaviour in humans can be compared with non-human primates in a discussion. There is nothing wrong with that.

Why do you say I don't answer questions?! Again, you asked for examples from the thread of unpleasant language describing women, I provided said examples and you seem to have forgotten. I have responded to questions?

Why shouldn't we say women are like baboons showing their genitals on a thread about a woman being laughed at in a cafe for wearing a skimpy bikini?!

Well, firstly it is not relevant in this scenario and secondly it sounds sneery and derogatory. You aren't David Attenborough, you aren't narrating a documentary.

Keep observations relevant but mostly polite.

Maybe tone down the monkey and 'gross' stuff for a more convincing argument.

It’s easy for the women in a thong bikini in a restaurant not to attract snide and derogatory comments - by not degrading herself with her attire! It’s totally on her that she’s being judged. She has a choice. She should make better choices.

I'm not 'sickened', and no, I wouldn't comment to my (teenage) children unprompted – but if they mentioned it to me, I would say be truthful that I didn't think it was an appropriate place to show her bottom. Probably a dry, "Yes, not exactly dressed for lunch, is she?"

They're not uncomfortable with nudity in passing at home, or the human body, but I don't think either of them would think someone showing their bum in public was appropriate; they'd consider it attention seeking and odd.

We wouldn't say anything that could be overheard by the woman, though – that would feel rude.

Really? Your teenagers sound very unobservant, then – not very aware of their surroundings.

But I'm not sure why you're grateful your teenagers are so desensitised to the sexualisation and objectification of women in society that they blithely accept it. Personally, my DD chafes at the horrendous sexualisation of women that she feels besieged by, and really hates the way increasingly objectifying norms lead to her experiencing sexual harassment from her peers, and restrictive gender stereotypes. So she's not impressed by women sexualising themselves in public. I can't blame her.

The word 'bitch' is so gratingly misogynistic, isn't it?

Good for you but I dunno I mean there is nothing wrong with teens being aware of dress codes ? Dress codes and customs exist in the world and there is nothing wrong with telling your child what your views are on such things if they ask in my opinion.

What exactly is 'bitching', pray tell, that you can't think of a word that isn't disgustingly misogynistic to use instead?

The OP said the woman kept getting up and bending over, so her bottom was repeatedly clearly visible. Your children really wouldn't notice someone doing that at a table in their line of sight? Perhaps they need to go to Specsavers.

I mean let’s face it , men are wearing baggy comfy swim shorts mostly. All about comfort and practicality for them. And these “empowered” women are wearing such uncomfortable swimwear that goes right up your bum , nothing comfortable or practical about this . There is zero empowering about such a choice .

How droll. And no, I've said what I'd say.

I like how you've glossed over the fact that my DD is uncomfortable with this clothing in part because increased self-sexualisation and objectification has led to her being sexually harassed, amongst other things, and she hates women being displayed as sexual objects. It really fits in with your overall misogynistic tone.

It's funny how 'women's empowerment' always just so happens to align perfectly with 'what misogynistic men want' 🤔

Exactly!

I wonder why having a thong in a sensitive place doesn’t empower men?

'Bitchy'. What a limited vocabulary you have.

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Have you ever worn a thong bikini? If not how can you say they are uncomfortable?

I can tell you from first hand experience that I don’t find them uncomfortable at all. And they are very practical if you want to minimise your white bits.

I couldn’t care less whether they are “empowering” or not.