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Butt on display at lunch in south of France

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flipperfizz · 11/08/2026 13:32

I am currently having lunch in a beach restaurant and a girl with a lovely toned body is wearing a tiny thong with full ass on display. This seems to be a fashion thing and there are lots of women wearing the same cheese cutter! People are staring and some women are laughing. I find it a horrible trend and I am wondering what others think.

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Gloriia · Yesterday 08:14

Quitedark · 12/08/2026 20:56

The cafe is on the beach
the OP’s chair was on sand
her feet will be on sand
meters from sunbathers

Edited

This. The op and a minority keep glossing over this very important fact it was a beach cafe. Not The Ritz.

As for the pp mentioning chimpanzees?! We had similar on a school girls skirt thread. A poster likening girls to baboons apparently showing their genitals. Staggering that the slurs and comparisons to primates are not seen as obviously misogynistic to those who spout it.

Women and girls are not like chimps or baboons, they should be allowed to wear skimpy bikinis in beach areas without this sick sexualisation and disapproval.

I hope the op and her dp try a bit of sightseeing or I don't know, maybe read a book?

gotitsoiflauntit · Yesterday 08:16

CoffeeCantata · Yesterday 07:09

OP I appreciate the way you've stayed with this thread - I get so cross when OPs just disappear, don't answer questions or clarify things. I have never dared to start a thread on MN because of the 'duty of care' it would involve!

And I know you've been wrongly accused of mocking this young woman when in fact you merely observed other people doing that.

No-one should be publicly mocked for their clothing/appearance. But when they are, although it's not nice, it does raise questions about their choices - it makes us think about clothing and the messages it communicates.

I know that pps have said - I'm just putting on my bikini - I'm not thinking of the semiology of clothing. Sure, but at some point that bikini will have been chosen above other styles and that's where the element of choice/communication comes in.

I'm very boring - my swimsuit has always been a black one-piece and the message is: nothing to see here...I'm just doing my exercise!

I’ll admit that my choice of bikini is influenced by a desire to minimise tan lines and believing my bum is nice enough to reveal. On a deserted beach I will wear nothing and swim in nothing.

Power, semiology, feminism and whatever have absolutely nothing to do with it.

CoffeeCantata · Yesterday 08:18

Gloriia · Yesterday 08:14

This. The op and a minority keep glossing over this very important fact it was a beach cafe. Not The Ritz.

As for the pp mentioning chimpanzees?! We had similar on a school girls skirt thread. A poster likening girls to baboons apparently showing their genitals. Staggering that the slurs and comparisons to primates are not seen as obviously misogynistic to those who spout it.

Women and girls are not like chimps or baboons, they should be allowed to wear skimpy bikinis in beach areas without this sick sexualisation and disapproval.

I hope the op and her dp try a bit of sightseeing or I don't know, maybe read a book?

Are you saying humans aren’t primates?

Can you explain what’s wrong with being a primate?

Awaiting explanation of this bizarre view with bated breath!🤣

Gloriia · Yesterday 08:20

CoffeeCantata · Yesterday 08:18

Are you saying humans aren’t primates?

Can you explain what’s wrong with being a primate?

Awaiting explanation of this bizarre view with bated breath!🤣

It's context isn't it. Comparing girls to baboons showing their genitals is very sick and you really shouldn't need this pointing out yet here we are.

CoffeeCantata · Yesterday 08:23

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Myli1 · Yesterday 08:25

OtterlyAstounding · Yesterday 08:11

Yes. I very clearly asked if you would let your 13-year-old daughter wear a thong. You said no, but you'd let her be naked on the beach. The fact that you would let her be nude on the beach at 13, if she wanted to, is just wild.

Why? Just to be clear, there is nothing wrong in being naked in a non-sexual setting for either children or adults. No-one is harmed by the sight of a human body. I would much rather my children grow up seeing real human bodies in all their shapes, sizes, colours and ages, rather than them be shielded from nudity and then be forced to form their opinions from airbrushed imagery in magazines and social media. This can lead to unrealistic expectations later in life and in extreme cases body dysmorphia or eating disorders.

Gloriia · Yesterday 08:29

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Oh dear.

You've asked me repeatedly for examples of mocking women on this thread, I helpfully provided them that seems to have ratted you for some reason.

Whilst I appreciate some may have concerns about image and women's welfare you've really got to learn how to get that across in a calm measured way.

Mockery and misogyny is not a good look.

seawitchandgarden2 · Yesterday 08:31

CoffeeCantata · Yesterday 07:28

Yes - for me the crucial part of the OP is not the 'butt' but the 'lunch'!

To me it's about what's appropriate in different settings.

Exactly.

We all know that the way we dress is influenced by the environment and social conventions.

This is why most of use won't wear pyjamas to go to work, a pink mini skirt at a funeral or a black PVC catsuit at a wedding ...

That's why the 'she can wear whatever she wants' just does not fly.

It is about respecting other people around you and dressing for the occasions/your surroundings.

I would think nothing of someone wearing a thong at the beach but I don't think it is appropriate to wear it in a shop or a restaurant.

Just like I don't want to see sweaty topless men in supermarkets and other public spaces. Leave that for the beach and your own home.

It is just basic, common decency and hygiene.

Also, I don't see why the staff in the restaurant would have to do additional work and cleaning because someone thought it is is OK to wear a bikini/thong on their premises and now they have to wipe the chair as well so the next person can seat.

seawitchandgarden2 · Yesterday 08:36

Myli1 · Yesterday 08:25

Why? Just to be clear, there is nothing wrong in being naked in a non-sexual setting for either children or adults. No-one is harmed by the sight of a human body. I would much rather my children grow up seeing real human bodies in all their shapes, sizes, colours and ages, rather than them be shielded from nudity and then be forced to form their opinions from airbrushed imagery in magazines and social media. This can lead to unrealistic expectations later in life and in extreme cases body dysmorphia or eating disorders.

But you also need to understand that you also can't push the sight of your nudity on other people.

I don't want to see some random person's butt cheeks or bare chest when I am out and about in public spaces.

It really should not be that complicated to grasp.

People are just so self centred these days....

seawitchandgarden2 · Yesterday 08:39

CoffeeCantata · Yesterday 08:18

Are you saying humans aren’t primates?

Can you explain what’s wrong with being a primate?

Awaiting explanation of this bizarre view with bated breath!🤣

Do you swing from vines as well, live on top of a tree and look for fleas in your loved one that you then eat every day?

We may be primates but that does not mean we behave like apes.

Myli1 · Yesterday 08:40

seawitchandgarden2 · Yesterday 08:36

But you also need to understand that you also can't push the sight of your nudity on other people.

I don't want to see some random person's butt cheeks or bare chest when I am out and about in public spaces.

It really should not be that complicated to grasp.

People are just so self centred these days....

Well, as naturists I like to think for the most part we are empathetic and respectful of the sensitivities of others. I wouldn’t choose to strip off somewhere if I thought there was the likelihood of offending people. Live and let live.

Snufkin88 · Yesterday 08:48

Gloriia · Yesterday 08:14

This. The op and a minority keep glossing over this very important fact it was a beach cafe. Not The Ritz.

As for the pp mentioning chimpanzees?! We had similar on a school girls skirt thread. A poster likening girls to baboons apparently showing their genitals. Staggering that the slurs and comparisons to primates are not seen as obviously misogynistic to those who spout it.

Women and girls are not like chimps or baboons, they should be allowed to wear skimpy bikinis in beach areas without this sick sexualisation and disapproval.

I hope the op and her dp try a bit of sightseeing or I don't know, maybe read a book?

So you approve of young girls wearing thong swimwear and would allow young daughters to wear them in a restaurant? I find this very very hard to believe.

Snufkin88 · Yesterday 08:52

@Gloriia also I don’t want to see anyone’s arse at lunch , male female or otherwise . It’s beyond grim. With your logic everyone should just walk around fully naked and not be judged. Naked butt cheeks are a private part and an erogenous zone on full display . There is nothing feminist about your argument it’s just batshit

Quitedark · Yesterday 08:54

Snufkin88 · Yesterday 08:52

@Gloriia also I don’t want to see anyone’s arse at lunch , male female or otherwise . It’s beyond grim. With your logic everyone should just walk around fully naked and not be judged. Naked butt cheeks are a private part and an erogenous zone on full display . There is nothing feminist about your argument it’s just batshit

Beach cafe
on the beach
and presumably you would have only seen them for seconds before she sat down the chair backing covered the horror that is butt cheeks

Quitedark · Yesterday 08:55

Genuine question but all those sickened by this… if you were at the dining table with your partner and children… would you make a comment about the woman to express your disgust in front of your children?

Snufkin88 · Yesterday 08:57

Quitedark · Yesterday 08:54

Beach cafe
on the beach
and presumably you would have only seen them for seconds before she sat down the chair backing covered the horror that is butt cheeks

The same applies to a beach cafe as any other eating establishment to me. I don’t care if someone wears a bin bag to the ritz as long as I don’t have to see their private parts glaring at me

CoffeeCantata · Yesterday 09:06

seawitchandgarden2 · Yesterday 08:39

Do you swing from vines as well, live on top of a tree and look for fleas in your loved one that you then eat every day?

We may be primates but that does not mean we behave like apes.

If you watch David Attenborough, or read any zoology or anthropology stuff, you'll find that we do indeed behave like primates. That's what's so fascinating.

The human smile is a development from the bared teeth which chimps use to ward off rivals. A lot of primate behaviour is human behaviour too - I don't know if you ever saw his brilliant film with the gorillas in Rwanda?

I am baffled as to why in 2026 this is any kind of news to people! What have you been learning - or not learning - in school? But you don't have to be a biologist - there's loads of fascinating stuff out there either on TV or elsewhere about human anthropology.

Have you missed Darwin and all the research done by people like Jane Goodall and fellow primatologists?

Backwardsbinn · Yesterday 09:07

Quitedark · Yesterday 08:55

Genuine question but all those sickened by this… if you were at the dining table with your partner and children… would you make a comment about the woman to express your disgust in front of your children?

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Of course! I’d be horrified if my kids grew up thinking showing your butt cheeks in public was an acceptable thing to do. How trashy!

CoffeeCantata · Yesterday 09:09

Quitedark · Yesterday 08:55

Genuine question but all those sickened by this… if you were at the dining table with your partner and children… would you make a comment about the woman to express your disgust in front of your children?

Edited

Certainly not. But is anyone here suggesting that? OP didn't do anything like that - she simply noticed what some fellow diners were doing.

I have been in situations where my very small children have asked embarrassing questions about people's appearance and I had a repertoire of calming phrases to shut them down...although I don't blame small children. They don't know social norms about not commenting or staring.

My son,aged 2 and a half, did loudly ask why a lady had big bosoms once. It was excruciating, but we got through it by distracting him and we then scarpered pdq!

Beautifulhaiku · Yesterday 09:11

flipperfizz · 11/08/2026 14:12

Trust me I’m not jealous, I’m not judging either. It was merely an observation and my husband and I were chatting about it. To be honest they look quite painful to wear, and I have done my topless bit years ago. I’m older now and I couldn’t care less.

You care enough to make a mumsnet thread about it. I feel bad for her with random oeople laughing at her outfit choice while she’s just having her lunch.

Quitedark · Yesterday 09:11

CoffeeCantata · Yesterday 09:09

Certainly not. But is anyone here suggesting that? OP didn't do anything like that - she simply noticed what some fellow diners were doing.

I have been in situations where my very small children have asked embarrassing questions about people's appearance and I had a repertoire of calming phrases to shut them down...although I don't blame small children. They don't know social norms about not commenting or staring.

My son,aged 2 and a half, did loudly ask why a lady had big bosoms once. It was excruciating, but we got through it by distracting him and we then scarpered pdq!

I wasn’t asking the Op, who has confirmed no kids.

I was asking the posters sickened by this

Quitedark · Yesterday 09:12

Backwardsbinn · Yesterday 09:07

Of course! I’d be horrified if my kids grew up thinking showing your butt cheeks in public was an acceptable thing to do. How trashy!

So in front of your children you’d say “yuck that woman, how gross”
and if they chimed in with more bitchy comments about how gross she is… you would nod and say “yes, isn’t she disgusting”?

Quitedark · Yesterday 09:14

If my children ever made (thankfully very rare and only when very young) ANY negative comment about what ANYONE was wearing, let alone saying someone was gross and disgusting, then I would give them a furious look and ask them to not air nasty comments about others. The end

CoffeeCantata · Yesterday 09:17

seawitchandgarden2 · Yesterday 08:39

Do you swing from vines as well, live on top of a tree and look for fleas in your loved one that you then eat every day?

We may be primates but that does not mean we behave like apes.

Oh - I'm sorry, but I have to add:

You only have to watch the news or indeed go to a theme park on a BH to see plenty of people (OK, men) behaving far worse than apes!

I think the problem is: I don't see apes, primates or any other creature as being bad. I love all creatures and am happy to be connected to them. Some pps on here seem to despise our fellow creatures.

Humans are animals, and understanding their behaviour from that viewpoint is honestly fascinating.

We just happen to be the most aggressive and successful type of animal on the planet. It won't be gorillas or orangs which destroy this lovely green and blue planet. It will be homo sapiens!

LeedsLoiner · Yesterday 09:18

Snufkin88 · 12/08/2026 19:16

What do you mean ? It would make a huge difference to me seeing a man in swim shorts swimming , vs a man in a mankini or naked . Mankini or naked I would immediately be a bit freaked out . A man swimming in a swimsuit is quite an innocent and common sight.

So where's the line ?
A mankini is wrong but Speedos/budgie smugglers are OK ?

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