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AIBU to worry about a growing political divide in marriage?

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Whatsahappening · 08/08/2026 20:25

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Is there anyone else dealing with real political divide in their marriage?
I don’t want to go into all the back story but I have a husband who seems so fixated on migrants and drifting into right wing political views that I couldn’t be any further from.

I’m not a complete lefty but I focus solely on the things that matter more so (I feel) what is impacting women’s rights, my children’s upbringing and I am a huge empath and have really struggled with the current world events such as the genocide(s) happening within the world and genuinely fall to bits about it but the only passion I see from my husband is how enraged he gets around the ’impact’ the migrants have coming in this country - Which my view as a woman, is we have a far bigger problems within our own societies, within our own men/people in this country committing horrendous crimes, especially against women and children, yet not a smidge I hear around this!
There’s so much I could share on the matter but I fear it could be counterproductive.

I genuinely love my husband and we have had battle after battle recently.. I am insisting on couples therapy as we are arguing about this stuff in front of our children but I really need help from those going / been through this and can help with a resolution?

I know he has his own mind and should steer how he chooses but I need to figure a way that I won’t put so much emotion into this, that it could really pull on my marriage.

Thanks!

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LuckyHazelFox · 09/08/2026 17:32

Whatsahappening · 09/08/2026 17:30

See, this is your very problem.
Though, these rights get over turned and you’ve got GREAT examples across the pond for where women’s autonomy has started to be stripped.

If you think that can’t happen here, then that’s just a pure head in the sand jobby that.

I know who poses a threat to me and I know who doesn't.

Whatsahappening · 09/08/2026 17:33

LuckyHazelFox · 09/08/2026 17:32

I know who poses a threat to me and I know who doesn't.

Umm… You must be super human, immortal, all knowing, the all seeing eye.

What a gift.

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LuckyHazelFox · 09/08/2026 17:34

Whatsahappening · 09/08/2026 17:33

Umm… You must be super human, immortal, all knowing, the all seeing eye.

What a gift.

Anyway @Whatsahappening interesting first post.

LuckyHazelFox · 09/08/2026 17:35

Whatsahappening · 09/08/2026 17:33

Umm… You must be super human, immortal, all knowing, the all seeing eye.

What a gift.

Much like you thinking you know your DH's mind.

Whatsahappening · 09/08/2026 17:36

LuckyHazelFox · 09/08/2026 17:35

Much like you thinking you know your DH's mind.

😉… Anymore?

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ElizaMulvil · 09/08/2026 17:41

scatterolight · 08/08/2026 21:21

You don't see how an unending stream of young men from wartorn and regressive third world countries, with no accompanying women to meet their needs, could possibly be a danger to the women and children of this country?

Neither do you think that the growing numbers of Muslims (bolstered by the unending stream of migration) and their increasing political power via their influence on the Labour and Green parties is a concern either? Despite "women's rights" being your top priority?

It's a wonder your husband put up with YOU when your thinking is so muddled.

It is very difficult travelling from countries with civil wars, non functioning governments, oppressive states etc as there may be total chaos, no system for eg registering births, issuing passports ( particularly for people opposed to the current repressive government/army/ regime etc eg Eritrea, Sudan, Afghanistan, Iran. Ukraine etc.) Think how difficult it was to escape Nazi Germany WW2 yet then too people here were loth to accept Jews as refugees even though refusals meant certain death in a concentration camp.

It makes sense to send on a less vulnerable person eg a father, a son, to try and arrange a safe place for daughters, wives, children etc. Many years ago a friend's family escaped massacres in Armenia. Their father was sent on to forge a pathway ( they couldn't get official papers).

Ironically far from refugees being 'unlike us' they are often exactly like us and are fleeing from repressive countries. If they were at one with the repressive Government of eg Afghanistan etc they would stay there. They certainly would not be sending their daughters through hostile territory until they could ensure their safety. We also have a responsibility for those people who opposed the current Government in eg Afghanistan and helped support our armies.

We are fortunate that most of us have little experience of such horrors.

5128gap · 09/08/2026 17:45

LuckyHazelFox · 09/08/2026 17:25

Do you not care about Islamic extremists raping and murdering white women? Do you not care about Trans pushing for women to be put to the bottom of the pile? My rights, as a woman are protected and always will be. I don't fall for the left's hyperbole about losing rights to abortion and any other rights that are protected by domestic legislation.

For the sake of accuracy, GI took hold and women lost single sex spaces under a Conservative government. There's only the Greens on the left pushing to ignore the SCJ. The most left you can get, The British Communist Party have committed to sex based rights from the get go.
Women's rights are almost always an after thought when men want something different. And rights we have won can be taken from us. Single sex spaces being a good example.

Notsooldcrock · 09/08/2026 17:46

@ElizaMulvil "It makes sense to send on a less vulnerable person eg a father, a son, to try and arrange a safe place for daughters, wives, children etc."

And then when they get here some of them sexually assault our women and girls because they don't respect our laws and have a bad attitude to women. That's a great way of making themselves popular and welcomed.

LuckyHazelFox · 09/08/2026 17:56

Notsooldcrock · 09/08/2026 17:46

@ElizaMulvil "It makes sense to send on a less vulnerable person eg a father, a son, to try and arrange a safe place for daughters, wives, children etc."

And then when they get here some of them sexually assault our women and girls because they don't respect our laws and have a bad attitude to women. That's a great way of making themselves popular and welcomed.

I can't believe people still buy that crock about sending the men here first.

BermudaRhombus · 09/08/2026 18:28

ElizaMulvil · 09/08/2026 17:41

It is very difficult travelling from countries with civil wars, non functioning governments, oppressive states etc as there may be total chaos, no system for eg registering births, issuing passports ( particularly for people opposed to the current repressive government/army/ regime etc eg Eritrea, Sudan, Afghanistan, Iran. Ukraine etc.) Think how difficult it was to escape Nazi Germany WW2 yet then too people here were loth to accept Jews as refugees even though refusals meant certain death in a concentration camp.

It makes sense to send on a less vulnerable person eg a father, a son, to try and arrange a safe place for daughters, wives, children etc. Many years ago a friend's family escaped massacres in Armenia. Their father was sent on to forge a pathway ( they couldn't get official papers).

Ironically far from refugees being 'unlike us' they are often exactly like us and are fleeing from repressive countries. If they were at one with the repressive Government of eg Afghanistan etc they would stay there. They certainly would not be sending their daughters through hostile territory until they could ensure their safety. We also have a responsibility for those people who opposed the current Government in eg Afghanistan and helped support our armies.

We are fortunate that most of us have little experience of such horrors.

There’s little point trying to make rational points to people who have been brainwashed by GBeebies, X, Tik Tok and the like where they get their ‘real’ news untainted by bias. I am probably in a small minority of British people who have actually met and spent time with former asylum seekers. Those I met were unfailing polite, kind, generous and hardworking. They were nothing like I was expecting. Sure, it’s anecdata, but I found the experience truly eye opening.

BitOutOfPractice · 09/08/2026 18:33

scatterolight · 08/08/2026 21:21

You don't see how an unending stream of young men from wartorn and regressive third world countries, with no accompanying women to meet their needs, could possibly be a danger to the women and children of this country?

Neither do you think that the growing numbers of Muslims (bolstered by the unending stream of migration) and their increasing political power via their influence on the Labour and Green parties is a concern either? Despite "women's rights" being your top priority?

It's a wonder your husband put up with YOU when your thinking is so muddled.

Can you not see how patronising and just fucking unuseful this is. I’m sorry if you don’t. Your thinking must be muddled.

LuckyHazelFox · 09/08/2026 18:43

BermudaRhombus · 09/08/2026 18:28

There’s little point trying to make rational points to people who have been brainwashed by GBeebies, X, Tik Tok and the like where they get their ‘real’ news untainted by bias. I am probably in a small minority of British people who have actually met and spent time with former asylum seekers. Those I met were unfailing polite, kind, generous and hardworking. They were nothing like I was expecting. Sure, it’s anecdata, but I found the experience truly eye opening.

😆 🤣 parody at its finest

JHound · 09/08/2026 18:45

Retrolady13 · 09/08/2026 16:42

Just this, that's all. No building in of narrative.

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BermudaRhombus · 09/08/2026 18:47

LuckyHazelFox · 09/08/2026 18:43

😆 🤣 parody at its finest

Strange comment - I’m not sure you know what that word means!

JHound · 09/08/2026 18:49

scatterolight · 08/08/2026 21:21

You don't see how an unending stream of young men from wartorn and regressive third world countries, with no accompanying women to meet their needs, could possibly be a danger to the women and children of this country?

Neither do you think that the growing numbers of Muslims (bolstered by the unending stream of migration) and their increasing political power via their influence on the Labour and Green parties is a concern either? Despite "women's rights" being your top priority?

It's a wonder your husband put up with YOU when your thinking is so muddled.

“Accompanying woman to meet their needs”

😳

LuckyHazelFox · 09/08/2026 18:52

BermudaRhombus · 09/08/2026 18:47

Strange comment - I’m not sure you know what that word means!

If you're going to continue to think you're better than everyone else, at least try and be original. I mean GBeebies. It's something a young teenager would say. Cringeworthy of epic proportions.

BermudaRhombus · 09/08/2026 18:54

LuckyHazelFox · 09/08/2026 18:52

If you're going to continue to think you're better than everyone else, at least try and be original. I mean GBeebies. It's something a young teenager would say. Cringeworthy of epic proportions.

Nothing like focussing on the key points of an argument.

Glogirl1 · 09/08/2026 19:00

Bringemout · 08/08/2026 22:40

maybe because he isn’t actually a racist and genuinely thinks that men from societies where there is a high level of control over women means that if they see a woman walking around outside they think she’s fair game whether she’s interested or not. The problem here is a theory of mind gap, you can’t empathise with his position because you think anyone objecting to male refugees must on some level be a racist and thats the only explanation. He can’t understand why you would be (in his view) be willing to put women and girls in the UK at risk because you have more empathy with men than you do with women (theorising here).

I don’t want to litigate your disagreement with your husband but to me It’s interesting how big the gap is between how women in those countries see their countrymen and how western white women (I’m not white) see them. It’s fascinating, I know several women married to Egyptian men for example who are otherwise perfectly normal blokes (not particularly controlling etc) but would never ever let their wife walk the streets of Cairo alone due to the level of street harassment, they genuinely fear for their safety. Hell my egyptian friend doesn’t like travelling without her husband in a lot of areas.

Massive cultural gaps exist they are very real and they have a real world impact on women. On another thread somebody seemed to float the idea that chrisitan arabs would be fine with sex outside of marriage or a child out of wedlock. It’s amazing to me that people don’t get how different value systems are and that they are very very real. Look at India, women are genuinely murdered over dowries. Many places practice FGM because fundamentally a woman being able to experience sexual pleasure is basically at risk of becoming a whore. I was on twitter and there was a saudi man complaining that girls were now going to coffee shops and actually laughing in public (shocking I know). Now imagine how that man sees women who walk around wearing shorts with bare arms and their hair out.

Ofcourse there are plenty of lovely normal arab men who aren’t weird about everything but people often carry their cultural norms with them. A lot of times they can be positive, deeply family oriented, giving to charity, public behaviour, gulf arab men often have the loveliest of manners towards women in public. BUt sometimes it is very dark and the attitudes towards women are often frankly shocking.

Might surprise you to hear that women are at risk from men from all walks of life including ones born here. In fact, the statistics show that women are most often at risk from their partners, and other men in their lives, and not from strangers.

LuckyHazelFox · 09/08/2026 19:02

BermudaRhombus · 09/08/2026 18:54

Nothing like focussing on the key points of an argument.

Your key points, not mine.

Menopausalsourpuss · 09/08/2026 19:04

5128gap · 09/08/2026 14:41

Is it necessary to provide you with facts about something that is common sense? Surely you understand that services for women save women's lives? That laws criminalising our abuse, rape and murder make us safer than we would be if the government hadn't made these things illegal?
I don't deny its still a huge problem, with much work to be done, but to suggest government legislation and investment in services has no impact is ridiculous. So ridiculous I can't believe you're posting in good faith.

Huh? Talk about strawman argument. Rape and murder of women has been illegal for a long time (hundred of years) as have refuges etc (since the 70s) and have nothing to do with the current government. I was querying whether their "plan" will reduce VAWG especially as they're not protecting them from men without a passport from dangerous countries and letting rapists and murderers out of prison early (against the advice of many women's groups) is their current plan. If they can't even get the basics right I am 100% right to be sceptical.

BermudaRhombus · 09/08/2026 19:06

You don’t seem to have any key points 🤷🏼‍♂️, or you’re not able to engage in a discussion. Nothing really to gain from continuing.

Whatsahappening · 09/08/2026 19:07

LuckyHazelFox · 09/08/2026 18:52

If you're going to continue to think you're better than everyone else, at least try and be original. I mean GBeebies. It's something a young teenager would say. Cringeworthy of epic proportions.

Genuinely intrigued to know the age of these commenters constantly utilising the word ‘cringe’… I would simply say, I’m embarrassed for you, of which those using that type of dialogue, I am simply embarrassed for you.

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LuckyHazelFox · 09/08/2026 19:10

Whatsahappening · 09/08/2026 19:07

Genuinely intrigued to know the age of these commenters constantly utilising the word ‘cringe’… I would simply say, I’m embarrassed for you, of which those using that type of dialogue, I am simply embarrassed for you.

Except I said cringeworthy not cringe.

LuckyHazelFox · 09/08/2026 19:11

BermudaRhombus · 09/08/2026 19:06

You don’t seem to have any key points 🤷🏼‍♂️, or you’re not able to engage in a discussion. Nothing really to gain from continuing.

👍

Whatsahappening · 09/08/2026 19:15

LuckyHazelFox · 09/08/2026 19:10

Except I said cringeworthy not cringe.

🤣 There is no definitive difference.

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