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To want to tell my kids to fuck off

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allwrongnow · 01/08/2026 08:07

Dd2(3) destroyed DD1(6)s Lego. Tried to put DD2 in a time out; of course she won’t stay so she’s in her room with me on one side of the door holding it closed while she screams the place down and DD1 follows me bellowing and ranting about the injustice of it so two kids screaming their heads off at me while I’m holding door closed.

I didn’t but I wanted to tell them both to fuck off. (I have never done this out loud but Jesus it’s tempting.)

Yes, I know I probably did it all wrong and no MNetters would have such chaos but that’s not my life I’m afraid.

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allwrongnow · 01/08/2026 17:27

@WhatNoRaisins no one’s mentioned anything. I think the older one is attention seeking as she gets none, I do feel bad about this.

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WhatNoRaisins · 01/08/2026 17:31

allwrongnow · 01/08/2026 17:27

@WhatNoRaisins no one’s mentioned anything. I think the older one is attention seeking as she gets none, I do feel bad about this.

At nearly 6, my younger DC is this age, I'd expect them to stop the hair pulling if not after a firm no at least after and firm no and a losing your shit after the firm no failed. I'd expect them to be beyond running off and I'd expect them to be able to follow instructions like keep something away from a younger siblings even if you had to repeat it a few times.

allwrongnow · 01/08/2026 17:36

She’s not exactly running off. More that she moved fast, very fast, and dd2 moves slow, very slow. Sometimes in the midst of one skipping ahead and one lagging behind I lose sight of one.

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WhatNoRaisins · 01/08/2026 17:38

allwrongnow · 01/08/2026 17:36

She’s not exactly running off. More that she moved fast, very fast, and dd2 moves slow, very slow. Sometimes in the midst of one skipping ahead and one lagging behind I lose sight of one.

Ok fair. Again I'm not going to suggest any diagnoses, I'm not qualified, but I think it's worth discussing the behaviour with someone that does know what they're talking about.

allwrongnow · 01/08/2026 17:41

I Know it doesn’t sound that way but they are fine alone! DD1 wouldn’t dream of yanking my hair on her own, she just wouldn’t. She’s a normal nice friendly little girl with good manners and a few annoying habits sure but she is five / six … dd2 is definitely prone to meltdowns and can be difficult but together it does frequently feel unmanageable,

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BertieBotts · 01/08/2026 17:48

I do think dd1 possibly has some difficulties with comprehension and understanding; you tell her not to do something and she does it. Not seemingly to be wilfully disobedient but more doesn’t seem to understand that if she does X then Y will happen.
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It doesn’t matter how many times she’s told what to do, how dangerous it is, she still does it, same with ‘don’t show dd2 your new toy as she’ll take it off you.’ I will come back from a party with dd1 and clearly tell her to go and put the party bag straight in her room and she’ll literally go and show dd2.

FWIW, this (and the exchange where she sounded like she understood why not to pull hair and then immediately did it anyway) is VERY much like DS2 who is nearly 8 now, he's getting there with some things now but if I think back to 2 years ago it's almost spot on to how his behaviour was then, and I think nearly 6 was when I was really starting to find it very very clear that there was a difference between him and other children his age. It's completely baffling because you do expect them to understand at this age. Anyway he is now diagnosed ADHD, suspected ASD. I am not sure whether it was an impulse control thing, like he understood, but he doesn't seem to have the "brakes" which lets him stop and consider whether an action is sensible or what the consequences might be, it's like as soon as the thought enters his head he immediately does it, with absolutely no filter from brain to action, or whether it was that he has communication difficulties, because there are some general oddities here e.g. he quite frequently has arguments over me saying a sentence which means the exact same as a sentence he said but he thinks they are different, he struggles with comprehension reading tasks at school and simple riddles, still finds it vv difficult to distinguish sarcasm, jokes, and pretend games, or will misremember jokes and not realise (e.g. Why did the skeletons not fight? Because they didn't have any guns! - guts - the punchline is guts. But he didn't register that it wasn't funny when misremembered, because he doesn't really understand what's funny about the actual punchline.)

But even e.g. the other day, he found a sharpie pen from somewhere. When he was younger I would have immediately taken it off him but I thought he should be OK, so I just told him to be careful with it because it's permanent so he must only draw on paper with it and he said OK. DH apparently also saw him with it and said something to the same effect. 2-3 mins later DS2 appears showing me the drawings he's done on his nails and then says "Mummy..... you have to promise not to be mad." Hmm OK..... what? He holds my hand and leads me to a part of the expensive LVP (rented!) floor where he's done a whole little fucking picture of a house and an entire sentence of writing. I lost it immediately and shouted "DS2!!!!!! What on EARTH did you do that for?!?!?!?!" while he looked baffled and wailed "But you promised you wouldn't be mad!!" FFS... anyway luckily it was quick enough that it came off straight away with an alcohol spray. I took some deep breaths and asked him in a calm but clearly narked tone whether he had done any drawings anywhere else and he sheepishly admitted to having drawn on a door frame, the stairs, a glass window and a chair. Hmm He claims "I didn't know what permanent means!" Yes but you know what "only draw on paper means" ..... anyway. Luckily all came off but my heart was going at about 1000bpm for a minute or two.

We had all child locks on all car doors obsessively until about a month ago because we'd had incidents where he would just randomly open the car door at a completely unsafe time, including once when we were driving at 70mph on a motorway (and it was a sliding door!) Oh and last year, this led to them accidentally locking themselves into the car, upon which DS2 (then age 6.5) immediately panicked and started crying, and DS3 (then age 3.5) apparently thought about it for a few moments, then climbed into the front to let them out.

DS3 is now nearly 5, and although in many ways he can be a little terror (bolts, takes his clothes off the minute you look away, can be a complete wind up merchant) I am frequently surprised by how good his self-control is, and how much he can listen to instructions when he wants to. With the kinds of examples you give that your DD2 cannot do, DS3 could do these things, and he is not quite 5. There are times that he is naughty or wilfully disobeys of course, but he responds to being told off and it will generally reduce the chance of the behaviour happening again. Completely different to DS2 (and DS1) and hence even though he's quite an active child, I don't think he has ADHD. But there was also a particularly tricky period when he was 3ish where I think he was reacting/copying a lot of the behaviour DS2 had which he couldn't easily control.

BertieBotts · 01/08/2026 17:58

I can also handle my two easily separated - TBH, I think this is much more of the fact that when you're used to having 2, one is such a step down in difficulty that it's easy regardless of how hard the child is to manage generally.

DS1 also has ADHD and was very much like you describe your DD2 when he was 3 - lots of antagonising people and attention seeking, but also very like DS1 in terms of not thinking things through or following instructions, and getting very wound up at the slightest thing. I found him impossible, even alone, but when I had DS2 just on his own, that was much easier. I think because I always had DS2 and 3 together, DS2 has always been easier alone. And DS1 was harder alone because I had nothing to compare it to.

AgileMentor · 01/08/2026 18:00

allwrongnow · 01/08/2026 08:26

I can make a thousand rules but DD1 just doesn’t get it; I’ve told her so many times not to parade things around in front of DD2; she knows what will happen but I genuinely think she’s a bit slow, which sounds horrible but she doesn’t seem to understand. Besides there aren’t locks on the doors so it’s not like I can keep DD2 out and she follows DD1 around.

If we could knock it off with the ‘go outside’ advice. They are awful inside and outside but inside they only impact me. They’ll go out later but I can’t keep them in the garden all day, even if it helped, they aren’t dogs.

I know, trapping her in her room is wrong but if I’d said I did nothing and just let her destroy things that would also be wrong so I’m taking those posts with a big pinch of salt.

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She doesn’t get it because she’s THREE. She’s not a grown adult she is 3 years old ffs.

Timeforachange26 · 01/08/2026 18:01

Imanautumn · 01/08/2026 08:14

I think you all need to have a hug and get outside. I’m not sure punishing a 3 year old like that helps it just ramps up the emotional volatility. Explaining to your 6 year old they’re just a baby then getting 3 year old to do something nice for 6 year old might help.

However I have regularly wanted to tell my kids to duck off as they can be little shits. Don’t beat yourself up.

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Lol so you make the eldest have to put up with having stuff destroyed rather than stopping the younger on doing it. Great way to encourage siblings to be firnd MOT

FieldInWhichFucksAreGrownIsBarren · 01/08/2026 18:02

The thread title made me laugh 🤣

No advice but it's absolutely fine to want to tell your kids (or any kid for that matter) to fuck off.

BertieBotts · 01/08/2026 18:07

AgileMentor · 01/08/2026 18:00

She doesn’t get it because she’s THREE. She’s not a grown adult she is 3 years old ffs.

In the post you quoted, it was the 5yo the OP was saying "doesn't get it" not the 3yo.

DontBuyAnotherBook · 01/08/2026 18:39

Best thing is to take them out even if you want to throttle them. At least outside in a park they can run around.

DontBuyAnotherBook · 01/08/2026 18:43

zeddip · 01/08/2026 17:04

OP I'm going to try and put our spare baby gate on my 6 year olds bedroom door to stop 3 year old getting in so she can go there for some space and be alone built her intricate Legos and things, will see how it goes!! 🙈 6 year old can open it but 3 year old can't! 🤞🏻

If you have a partner why not take your eldest out for a daughter and mum morning?

allwrongnow · 01/08/2026 18:43

BertieBotts · 01/08/2026 18:07

In the post you quoted, it was the 5yo the OP was saying "doesn't get it" not the 3yo.

It was, thanks.

ADHD, I don’t know, jury’s out as they say. DD2 doesn’t habitually wind up and annoy, it’s just dd1. She is very sweet around other children as a rule. It’s just dd1.

DD1 is … fine, she can do stupid stuff but mostly things like your example with the Sharpie pen have gone (I say mostly, and even a year ago that would have been us.) I do think she misses out due to dd2, which makes me feel so bad.

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allwrongnow · 01/08/2026 18:48

DontBuyAnotherBook · 01/08/2026 18:39

Best thing is to take them out even if you want to throttle them. At least outside in a park they can run around.

We have been through this. They’ve been out from 9 in the morning until nearly 4. It doesn’t stop them being dicks.

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Rainbowstar14 · 01/08/2026 19:00

I must admit I have said this under my breath a few times to my kids. They are testing!!

restingbitchface30 · 01/08/2026 19:11

Every damn day. But here’s the thing, I’ve got a 21, 19 and 4 year old twins. I can tell the 19 and 21 year olds to fuck off now they’re adults. You gotta bide your time but when they come of age it’s glorious

zeddip · 01/08/2026 19:12

DontBuyAnotherBook · 01/08/2026 18:43

If you have a partner why not take your eldest out for a daughter and mum morning?

We do things like this :) he's going to be working the next 3 weeks so I'm on my own with them both for the most part. So much fun to be had 😬

independentfriend · 01/08/2026 19:41

I think to get through the next year or so it would help to think around your house and the layout and create what people are describing - somewhere your 6 year old can reach that your 3 year old can't. Give the older one safer space for toys that are too advanced for the younger one.

Remember positive instructions: 'put the party bag in place x' Don't say the 'don't show it to your sister bit' - this is like the 'don't think about an elephant' concept - it's hard to do anything but think about an elephant.

Then separate / divide and rule. If the 3 year old still has an afternoon nap that can become time for you and the 6 year old to build Lego etc. If you have school mum / NCT type friends with children of similar ages you could meet up and either have two adults to four kids or swap a child so one of you has two six year olds and the other two three year olds. Consider recruiting a local teenager to come and help for some cash over the summer. They can take one child under your supervision while you have the other.

Have a look at Cbeebies /CBBC crossover - there should be some programmes here they both enjoy. Same with books - there should be some they both like and maybe some the 6 year old can read to her sister.

With you wanting to shower etc, it may work to take the 3 year old in with you if the 6 year old will play quietly.

Balloonhearts · 01/08/2026 20:00

Honestly? I couldn't live like that. I'd have smacked DD2 (would have done it long ago tbh) and sent DD1 to her room until she could talk to me without screaming.

YorkiePud25 · 01/08/2026 20:02

allwrongnow · 01/08/2026 08:07

Dd2(3) destroyed DD1(6)s Lego. Tried to put DD2 in a time out; of course she won’t stay so she’s in her room with me on one side of the door holding it closed while she screams the place down and DD1 follows me bellowing and ranting about the injustice of it so two kids screaming their heads off at me while I’m holding door closed.

I didn’t but I wanted to tell them both to fuck off. (I have never done this out loud but Jesus it’s tempting.)

Yes, I know I probably did it all wrong and no MNetters would have such chaos but that’s not my life I’m afraid.

I haven't read the rest of the thread but 100% know the feeling. Mine are now 7 and 8, and frequently fight over the most stupid things. I have definitely given them the finger behind their back.
We also found time out useless - youngest would put himself in if we asked him to tidy up... make it make sense 😅

Hopefully everything is a bit calmer now. Good luck with the next 6 weeks, we're going to need it!

BeverleeMacca · 01/08/2026 20:16

Where's their father? You might have mentioned him but surely he can take them off your hands for an afternoon at least for some respite. The 3 year old's behaviour is very typical of my niece who is autistic. If not, hopefully she'll grow out of this behaviour.

allwrongnow · 01/08/2026 20:32

@independentfriend even if we had somewhere I don’t think she’d use it. There is an element of winding up DD2 but also I don’t think the likes the feeling of being away from everybody, which is why she keeps gravitating back.

It’s really difficult to manage and very stressful.

It is surely obvious where their father is 🙄 it’s going to be one of three options - 1) non existent 2) at work 3) checked out of parenting.

Thanks @YorkiePud25 . It is the pointlessness to it all. Like - why get everybody upset and get up and stressed over something stupid like a cheap toy?

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BeverleeMacca · 01/08/2026 20:38

allwrongnow · 01/08/2026 20:32

@independentfriend even if we had somewhere I don’t think she’d use it. There is an element of winding up DD2 but also I don’t think the likes the feeling of being away from everybody, which is why she keeps gravitating back.

It’s really difficult to manage and very stressful.

It is surely obvious where their father is 🙄 it’s going to be one of three options - 1) non existent 2) at work 3) checked out of parenting.

Thanks @YorkiePud25 . It is the pointlessness to it all. Like - why get everybody upset and get up and stressed over something stupid like a cheap toy?

Not sure why the attitude was necessary, it actually wasn't obvious where their father was. You chose to have 3 kids quite close together with this man. If he's working or checked out of parenting, when he gets home, simply say you need space and go out for the whole evening. If he's non existent you need to really look hard at yourself and your life choices if you haven't already. If those girls only have you in their life, you might need to consider what is best for them and it might not be you

allwrongnow · 01/08/2026 20:41

Well, I haven’t mentioned him in ten pages so I do think it was a bit obvious he’s not in a position to be of assistance shall we say Smile

I wasn’t intentionally having an attitude, but do people think I’ll suddenly say oh gee, you’re right, silly me, I’ll get DH to take one while I take the other!

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