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AIBU to be deeply concerned about the recent influx of 30k+ undocumented arrivals in Spain?

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ChirpyUmberBiscuit · 31/07/2026 13:17

AIBU to feel really unsettled by the recent news coming out of Spain and Ceuta? Reports are showing that tens of thousands of undocumented migrants have crossed over in such a short window, completely overwhelming local infrastructure, reception centers, and security forces.

I know migration is always a sensitive and compassionate topic, but looking at these numbers practically, I don't see how any European border region can absorb 30,000 to 50,000 arrivals almost overnight without severe strain on public resources, local housing, and emergency services.

What worries me even more is the precedent it sets for the rest of Europe and the UK down the line. Surely there has to be a firm balance between humanitarian support and actual, enforceable border control?

Am I being completely unreasonable to view this as a serious policy and security crisis, or are others feeling equally concerned about where this leads?

Would love to hear honest thoughts on how this should actually be handled!

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pointythings · 31/07/2026 18:19

TickedOffAndALittleFedUp · 31/07/2026 18:02

Nope they only need to get into Gibraltar and they'll be over here in no time and no one will stop them. Zero issue with controlled immigration for people who have skills we need but 50,000 men running on land at the same time is an invasion by a huge number of individuals who very clearly do not mean to and can't stay in the place where they've forced entry

Why do you think they will all head for the UK? Migrants from North Africa tend to go to France, because they have a language in common. Thiss entire thread is a load of scaremongering.

parallhel · 31/07/2026 18:26

Regarding North Africans moving through Spain and into France, well there is a Presidential election there in 2027 and Marine le Pen is a favourite to win. Remember who she is and what that means for mass immigration. Her time might have come.

Fredabasset · 31/07/2026 18:29

parallhel · 31/07/2026 18:26

Regarding North Africans moving through Spain and into France, well there is a Presidential election there in 2027 and Marine le Pen is a favourite to win. Remember who she is and what that means for mass immigration. Her time might have come.

Vive Madame le Pen, vas-y, montre-leur de quoi tu es capable !
Je t'aime becaucoup !

pointythings · 31/07/2026 18:32

Oh, for those on here scaremongering about how all the Ceuta migrants are coming here:

https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2026/07/31/around-25000-migrants-returned-to-morocco-after-mass-border-crossing-into-ceuta

There you go.

Marine le Pen may well win the next election. That's how democracy goes. She won't last, any more than Geert Wilders did in the Dutch government. These people are all one trick ponies - they blame everything on immigration but never have any actual solutions. And most are on the grift, as amply demonstrated by our own Nige.

More than 48,000 migrants return to Morocco after mass crossing into Ceuta

More than 48,000 migrants return to Morocco after crossing into Ceuta

Some 48,000 of the roughly 50,000 people who crossed illegally into Ceuta since early Friday have already been returned to Morocco, as Madrid condemned the mass crossing as an "attack" on its sovereignty. #EuropeNews

https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2026/07/31/around-25000-migrants-returned-to-morocco-after-mass-border-crossing-into-ceuta

pointythings · 31/07/2026 18:34

Fredabasset · 31/07/2026 18:29

Vive Madame le Pen, vas-y, montre-leur de quoi tu es capable !
Je t'aime becaucoup !

I'm not sure you are entitled to address her as 'tu', given you've never met her and certainly aren't a personal friend. 'vous etes capable' would be more appropriate.

Fredabasset · 31/07/2026 18:38

pointythings · 31/07/2026 18:34

I'm not sure you are entitled to address her as 'tu', given you've never met her and certainly aren't a personal friend. 'vous etes capable' would be more appropriate.

Je vous prie de m'excuser pour mon erreur ; vous avez, bien entendu, tout à fait raison.

gardenflowergirl · 31/07/2026 18:47

When they realise there's nowhere to live and nothing to eat, they'll soon go back.

Weeellokthen · 31/07/2026 18:48

Fucking Spanish gvnmnt have got the blood of nearly 60 people on their hands.
Disgrace!

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LostNFoundSV · 31/07/2026 18:53

Duvetdayneeded · 31/07/2026 13:27

It’s now documented to be about 49,000 and it is absolute fuck up for the UK as they are in the majority going to come to our country because we give them such a free ride. I Stress I don’t mind genuine asylum seekers, but these are economic immigrants and we are fucked. We need to cease almost all foreign aid because our country is going to the toilet.

Agreed. It was approx 60k when I saw it on sky news website earlier.

pointythings · 31/07/2026 18:56

LostNFoundSV · 31/07/2026 18:53

Agreed. It was approx 60k when I saw it on sky news website earlier.

And over half have already been sent back... Do keep up.

backformoreofthesame · 31/07/2026 19:06

Inequality - across our nation, across the world.

some holding immense wealth and others struggling to survive

it’s so simply predictable. Wtf do people think was going to happen ? As living conditions deteriorate in some places , as the wealth inequality grows.

Shakeoffyourchains · 31/07/2026 19:10

Just copy and pasting this from the other identical thread on this subject cause I can't be arsed typing it again...

Interestingly, there has been an effort by various actors to loby the Trump administration to recognise Ceuta (and Melilla) as Moroccan territory, ever since Spain refused to allow the US to use its airspace during the Iran conflict.

Back March, just after spain closed their air space to the US, the AEI published an article that said that "Moroccans should gather, send bulldozers to the border, and then enter Ceuta and Melilla unarmed to raise the flag. Sánchez and the Spanish press bleat, but they have no grounds to act. Nor, for that matter, would NATO, even if Moroccan forces entered the towns to restore order and organise the dispatch of settlers across the Strait of Gibraltar and back to Spain."

While, Congressman Mario Díaz-Balart submitted a report to the House stating that the US should recognise that Ceuta and Melilla are subject to longstanding Moroccan claims, and that the administration should encourage negotiations between Morocco and Spain over their future.

Makes you wonder...

Digerydont · 31/07/2026 19:48

These threads always end up blaming the billionaires. Nothing will be done about the billionaires.

jsfv · 31/07/2026 20:07

pointythings · 31/07/2026 18:56

And over half have already been sent back... Do keep up.

Not ‘sent’ back. Apparently they voluntarily turned around themselves.

If you believe that, you’ll believe anything.

OrangeBlossomsinthesun · 31/07/2026 20:07

Weeellokthen · 31/07/2026 18:48

Fucking Spanish gvnmnt have got the blood of nearly 60 people on their hands.
Disgrace!

How is it the Spanish government's fault?

bafta16 · 31/07/2026 20:13

Duvetdayneeded · 31/07/2026 13:27

It’s now documented to be about 49,000 and it is absolute fuck up for the UK as they are in the majority going to come to our country because we give them such a free ride. I Stress I don’t mind genuine asylum seekers, but these are economic immigrants and we are fucked. We need to cease almost all foreign aid because our country is going to the toilet.

They've gone back now, rest easy.

SadiraOfTyr · 31/07/2026 20:23

jsfv · 31/07/2026 20:07

Not ‘sent’ back. Apparently they voluntarily turned around themselves.

If you believe that, you’ll believe anything.

They have returned - there was never any intention to stay. The whole thing was orchestrated by the Moroccan authorities.

jsfv · 31/07/2026 20:25

SadiraOfTyr · 31/07/2026 20:23

They have returned - there was never any intention to stay. The whole thing was orchestrated by the Moroccan authorities.

Where are you reading this?

bafta16 · 31/07/2026 20:32

jsfv · 31/07/2026 20:25

Where are you reading this?

Maybe it's independent thought?

SadiraOfTyr · 31/07/2026 20:32

jsfv · 31/07/2026 20:25

Where are you reading this?

Telegraph. It’s the number one article.

SadiraOfTyr · 31/07/2026 20:38

Oh and NYT also interviewed Moroccan nationals who said authorities were directly encouraging border crossings and telling people that the border had been opened.

War by another means I suppose.

pointythings · 31/07/2026 20:38

jsfv · 31/07/2026 20:07

Not ‘sent’ back. Apparently they voluntarily turned around themselves.

If you believe that, you’ll believe anything.

Or if you believe they're all coming to the UK, you'll believe anything.

pointythings · 31/07/2026 20:39

SadiraOfTyr · 31/07/2026 20:32

Telegraph. It’s the number one article.

The Telegraph, that bastion of woke lefty reporting.

LittleGreenShoots · 31/07/2026 21:03

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 31/07/2026 17:33

Well people seemed to be deeply concerned about Gaza and that’s an acceptable concern I assume even though it doesn’t directly affect anyone living outside of Gaza.

I get that, like Gaza people have died with this border crossing which is always sad. And its alarming seeing Morocco using people as political pawns like this again, especially when the world generally feels more volatile with a lot more warfare in recent years. But it's not the first time it's happened and they are just being sent back across the border. The death toll of people in Gaza is far higher and nastier, when you see them deliberately bombing schools and hospitals. It sounds like the border crossing deaths were accidental at least, which makes me worry less.

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