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AIBU to be deeply concerned about the recent influx of 30k+ undocumented arrivals in Spain?

736 replies

ChirpyUmberBiscuit · 31/07/2026 13:17

AIBU to feel really unsettled by the recent news coming out of Spain and Ceuta? Reports are showing that tens of thousands of undocumented migrants have crossed over in such a short window, completely overwhelming local infrastructure, reception centers, and security forces.

I know migration is always a sensitive and compassionate topic, but looking at these numbers practically, I don't see how any European border region can absorb 30,000 to 50,000 arrivals almost overnight without severe strain on public resources, local housing, and emergency services.

What worries me even more is the precedent it sets for the rest of Europe and the UK down the line. Surely there has to be a firm balance between humanitarian support and actual, enforceable border control?

Am I being completely unreasonable to view this as a serious policy and security crisis, or are others feeling equally concerned about where this leads?

Would love to hear honest thoughts on how this should actually be handled!

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pointythings · 31/07/2026 16:53

Metalmotha · 31/07/2026 16:19

You understand that Ceuta is part of Spain albeit in the North African coast? You understand the implications of the recent Spanish Supreme Court decision?

Yes.

These men are not in Europe. Ceuta is not covered by Schengen. The immigration amnesty in Spain doesn't cover these men. They are already being shipped out.

This is clearly a politically orchestrated influx. And posts like this play directly into yhe hands of those behind it.

greencatwitch · 31/07/2026 16:56

Fredabasset · 31/07/2026 14:29

They don't have to, if the French give them dingies and life-jackets

Of course the French authorities just give them free boats and life jackets...

Do you seriously believe that?

Where do you get this nonsense from? the Reform website? the Daily Mail comments?

Gooseling · 31/07/2026 17:00

Are you aware that this webpage states that:

Asylum seekers are subject to a "no recourse to public funds" condition, meaning they are legally barred from claiming mainstream welfare benefits or standard social housing.

Where is the “free ride” for the people who the OP is concerned about?

Nobody can seem to explain this.

LittleGreenShoots · 31/07/2026 17:01

Don't get swept up in the hysteria. This is not new, or mainline Spain, or anything more than an annoyance for Spanish officials to deal with.

Deeply concerned? Really? Do you have anxiety over other world events that don't affect you at all?

Fredabasset · 31/07/2026 17:05

greencatwitch · 31/07/2026 16:56

Of course the French authorities just give them free boats and life jackets...

Do you seriously believe that?

Where do you get this nonsense from? the Reform website? the Daily Mail comments?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/04/10/french-officials-life-jackets-migrants-crossing-channel/

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/2177798/france-lifejackets-channel-migrants

https://londondaily.com/french-returned-migrants-then-requested-their-life-jackets-back

TankFlyBossW4lk · 31/07/2026 17:08

Is this yet another goady rubbish thread about immigration. The bots are out.

Whyherewego · 31/07/2026 17:12

Ceuta isn't even in Schengen area. Apparently loads have left anyway already.

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 31/07/2026 17:16

I think it’s actually exactly what’s needed and hopefully they’ll be lots more of it.

Europe has been a boiled frog for decades with a constant drip of economic migration that was tolerable at first: much like a tea with more than two sugars, but we’re 17 teaspoons in now, and it’s totally undrinkable.

If we move to mass migration, in waves of tens of thousands at a time, then they liberal elites will struggle to feel all cosy about it and the government won’t be able to pretend it’s not happening, then we might start talking seriously about how to manage it.

OrangeBlossomsinthesun · 31/07/2026 17:20

Dollymylove · 31/07/2026 15:42

They dont need to swim from Spain to the UK. They can go overland to Calais, get on a dinghy and Bob's yer Uncle!!
Coached lined up waiting, free bed and board, and the freedom to spend their days doing what ever they please!

They'd have to swim acros from north Africa first. Ceuta is not part of the Spanish mainland.

Kulwinder54 · 31/07/2026 17:20

i think it's more to do with Morocco trying to cause some mischief in what they think is their own territory

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 31/07/2026 17:20

TankFlyBossW4lk · 31/07/2026 17:08

Is this yet another goady rubbish thread about immigration. The bots are out.

I think the bots are the ones that come onto these threads, where women have legitimate concerns about undocumented men from misogynistic cultures and from countries no one goes near, to shout them down, and shoe horn in ‘far right racism’. Bonus points if you can get ‘Reform’ in there. Try harder.

Digerydont · 31/07/2026 17:22

William of Normandy arrived at Hastings with 7,000 to 10,000 men.

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 31/07/2026 17:24

There are no bloody bots. All posts that accuse posters of being trolls/bots/shills/AI agents need to be reported and they’ll be removed.

pointythings · 31/07/2026 17:28

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 31/07/2026 17:24

There are no bloody bots. All posts that accuse posters of being trolls/bots/shills/AI agents need to be reported and they’ll be removed.

Really? We aren't allowed to challenge distorted and inaccurate posts any more? When did that happen?

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 31/07/2026 17:30

pointythings · 31/07/2026 17:28

Really? We aren't allowed to challenge distorted and inaccurate posts any more? When did that happen?

You can absolutely challenge posts that you think are inaccurate by counter arguing with facts. What you can’t do is blanket-accuse lots of people of being bots, trolls and shills and conveniently close down the debate

When did that happen? Well I’ve been here around 15 years and that rule certainly existed then.

Flyingintotheunknown · 31/07/2026 17:31

Popstarrrrr · 31/07/2026 15:55

Do you realise the geographical location of Ceuta? Some swimming, flying or sailing will be required.

Hmmm the same can be said going from Calais to the UK… but they manage that!

kateluvscats · 31/07/2026 17:33

sickflight87 · 31/07/2026 13:33

Absolutely this

I second this, we are being taken over, we are gullible as hell.

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 31/07/2026 17:33

LittleGreenShoots · 31/07/2026 17:01

Don't get swept up in the hysteria. This is not new, or mainline Spain, or anything more than an annoyance for Spanish officials to deal with.

Deeply concerned? Really? Do you have anxiety over other world events that don't affect you at all?

Well people seemed to be deeply concerned about Gaza and that’s an acceptable concern I assume even though it doesn’t directly affect anyone living outside of Gaza.

MaturingCheeseball · 31/07/2026 17:37

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 31/07/2026 17:33

Well people seemed to be deeply concerned about Gaza and that’s an acceptable concern I assume even though it doesn’t directly affect anyone living outside of Gaza.

Marvellous point !!

Digerydont · 31/07/2026 17:39

BBC say 60k with at least 50 died en route.

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 31/07/2026 17:47

They are estimating that 49,000 have made their way across to Ceuta with 18 having perished on the journey. That’s a lot of people on the move.

Fredabasset · 31/07/2026 17:57

TankFlyBossW4lk · 31/07/2026 17:08

Is this yet another goady rubbish thread about immigration. The bots are out.

Hi bot !

Fredabasset · 31/07/2026 17:59

Digerydont · 31/07/2026 17:22

William of Normandy arrived at Hastings with 7,000 to 10,000 men.

Enough to win the battle and take over England...

TickedOffAndALittleFedUp · 31/07/2026 18:02

Nope they only need to get into Gibraltar and they'll be over here in no time and no one will stop them. Zero issue with controlled immigration for people who have skills we need but 50,000 men running on land at the same time is an invasion by a huge number of individuals who very clearly do not mean to and can't stay in the place where they've forced entry

Lalgarh · 31/07/2026 18:12

News also saying that Italy, Denmark and Finland are calling for a review of Schengen agreement. France is said to be reinforcing it's southern border