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AIBU to be deeply concerned about the recent influx of 30k+ undocumented arrivals in Spain?

736 replies

ChirpyUmberBiscuit · 31/07/2026 13:17

AIBU to feel really unsettled by the recent news coming out of Spain and Ceuta? Reports are showing that tens of thousands of undocumented migrants have crossed over in such a short window, completely overwhelming local infrastructure, reception centers, and security forces.

I know migration is always a sensitive and compassionate topic, but looking at these numbers practically, I don't see how any European border region can absorb 30,000 to 50,000 arrivals almost overnight without severe strain on public resources, local housing, and emergency services.

What worries me even more is the precedent it sets for the rest of Europe and the UK down the line. Surely there has to be a firm balance between humanitarian support and actual, enforceable border control?

Am I being completely unreasonable to view this as a serious policy and security crisis, or are others feeling equally concerned about where this leads?

Would love to hear honest thoughts on how this should actually be handled!

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OrangeBlossomsinthesun · 31/07/2026 14:24

They are being sent back. I live in Spain. The vast majority of them will be returned to Morocco.

Eyesopenwideawake · 31/07/2026 14:25

the majority going to come to our country because we give them such a free ride.

Don't be so ridiculous. Most of them will be back home by the end of the weekend.

ColdAsAWitches · 31/07/2026 14:27

OP, are you going to post that nearly half of them have already returned to Morocco, within 24 hours of arriving in Ceuta? Or does this inconvenient fact not allay your deep concern in any way?

Hotupnorth · 31/07/2026 14:28

So, OP. Didn't you get enough of a frothing reaction to yesterday's thread? There's not enough going on the UK so you pearl clutch on the behalf of the Spanish.

It's Spain's problem to deal with before these people get anywhere remotely near the UK.

chirrupybird · 31/07/2026 14:28

Not many are going to swim the Channel.

Fredabasset · 31/07/2026 14:29

chirrupybird · 31/07/2026 14:28

Not many are going to swim the Channel.

They don't have to, if the French give them dingies and life-jackets

randomchap · 31/07/2026 14:30

@ChirpyUmberBiscuit

Are you wanting to discuss this? You've gone quite quiet

chirrupybird · 31/07/2026 14:30

Fredabasset · 31/07/2026 14:29

They don't have to, if the French give them dingies and life-jackets

And how do they get to France?

Violetdeparma · 31/07/2026 14:32

Wasn't there a court judgment that's prompted this ? Somerhing in technicalities that people who arrive by sea can't be returned ?

OneAmberFinch · 31/07/2026 14:32

Not BU to be concerned.

Britain and other European countries should work together to protect the wider border (both physically/militarily and through the legal system). I disagree with the opinion that each individual country should deal with it themselves and should try to "share around" asylum seekers so "all countries take their fair share". Although I think Spain has brought this on themselves with some unforced errors that I hope other countries don't repeat.

Fredabasset · 31/07/2026 14:33

chirrupybird · 31/07/2026 14:30

And how do they get to France?

The same way every other illegal migrant gets there from Afghanistan, Sudan, and Syria, to name but a few places.

Violetdeparma · 31/07/2026 14:33

One amber it's already happend across Europe and that was before merkel

OneAmberFinch · 31/07/2026 14:35

Violetdeparma · 31/07/2026 14:33

One amber it's already happend across Europe and that was before merkel

Which is why I'm in favour of managed remigration policies too - and which I also think would be optimally done with pan-European cooperation (e.g., no visas to non-cooperating countries for the whole EU+UK)

HoppingPavlova · 31/07/2026 14:35

Supposedly Ceuta only has roughly 80K population, so maybe 20/25K households? If I was Spain I’d consider just giving Ceuta to Morocco, and giving current residents an option to be relocated with compensation to mainland Spain, or stay put and become Moroccan. Seems a cheaper option than fluffing about with 50K economic refugees.

Mymyi · 31/07/2026 14:36

YANBU. It's an invasion. I've seen footage of women in the town crying and saying they are scared to go outside. People are barricading their doors. People are (rightly) terrified. Coming to us soon unless we get someone in politics to stop this.

BeanNaGealai · 31/07/2026 14:37

Violetdeparma · 31/07/2026 14:32

Wasn't there a court judgment that's prompted this ? Somerhing in technicalities that people who arrive by sea can't be returned ?

Of course they can be returned. They just have to go through due process. Although there may have been a misunderstanding of the ruling by some.

Fredabasset · 31/07/2026 14:37

Violetdeparma · 31/07/2026 14:32

Wasn't there a court judgment that's prompted this ? Somerhing in technicalities that people who arrive by sea can't be returned ?

I think there was some kind of announcement that was misreported.

ColdAsAWitches · 31/07/2026 14:38

Coming to us soon unless we get someone in politics to stop this.

Really? You know that they got there by swimming round a fence? So a not particularly challenging entryway. It's a hell of a longer swim from there to Cornwall.

BeanNaGealai · 31/07/2026 14:39

Fredabasset · 31/07/2026 14:33

The same way every other illegal migrant gets there from Afghanistan, Sudan, and Syria, to name but a few places.

But there are no closer to it, nor do they have an easier way to get there, than they did when they were in Morocco.

BeanNaGealai · 31/07/2026 14:41

HoppingPavlova · 31/07/2026 14:35

Supposedly Ceuta only has roughly 80K population, so maybe 20/25K households? If I was Spain I’d consider just giving Ceuta to Morocco, and giving current residents an option to be relocated with compensation to mainland Spain, or stay put and become Moroccan. Seems a cheaper option than fluffing about with 50K economic refugees.

The UK could do the same thing in Northern Ireland then too. I'm sure the unionists would love to go back to the mainland.

BeanNaGealai · 31/07/2026 14:43

ColdAsAWitches · 31/07/2026 14:38

Coming to us soon unless we get someone in politics to stop this.

Really? You know that they got there by swimming round a fence? So a not particularly challenging entryway. It's a hell of a longer swim from there to Cornwall.

In fairness, it's a pretty tough swim. But yeah, not quite the same as swimming the channel between france and england

Fredabasset · 31/07/2026 14:45

BeanNaGealai · 31/07/2026 14:39

But there are no closer to it, nor do they have an easier way to get there, than they did when they were in Morocco.

But they are now in a European country with more lax immigration laws.

GrumpyPanda · 31/07/2026 14:52

Summerhillsquare · 31/07/2026 13:30

theres already a thread on this tiresome hysteria.

They're springing up like mushrooms. Reported one this morning that ranted about her "invasion of Spain". I wonder how much of it is bots.

BeanNaGealai · 31/07/2026 14:52

Fredabasset · 31/07/2026 14:45

But they are now in a European country with more lax immigration laws.

How are they more lax? Plus Ceuta is not in Schengen so travel is not simple. And the chance of a Moroccan getting asylum in spain is tiny.