AIBU To Point Out Opinions You Don’t See Outside Of Mumsnet …?

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So I have noticed that according to (a lot of posters on) Mumsnet:

-Transphobia is perfectly acceptable.
-Ageism is the worst/most prevalent type of discrimination going on in the uk today.
-Cheating in a relationship is tantamount to murder.
-Enrolling your children in boarding school means you don’t love them.
-Teaching is always a miserable profession, with no exceptions.

What else have you noticed is a very common MN opinion but not one you hear in real life?

I’m not trying to start an argument on the truth of any of these statements, just curious what others have noticed.

So I have noticed that according to (a lot of posters on) Mumsnet:

Ahhhhhhhh, what was your thread sample size? What threads are included in your sample size?

I hate when people make assumptions based upon their own bias and act like it is fact.

So, so lazy.

Yes, but her moronic parents left the door unlocked. Is there a single other case of a child being abducted from a hotel room? I mean, I know some awful things have happened to unaccompanied kids in migrant hotels, but in a normal family-of-tourists situation?

Seriously never knew before today that there was anyone who thinks there's anything wrong with leaving a sleeping baby in a hotel room.

I find it just weird that someone would even want to?

So you can sit and eat a meal in the evening, instead of all having to go to bed at 7pm / sit in the dark / sit in the bathroom - while your child can go to bed at the usual time in their bed in a dark, quiet space…?

Never have I gone to bed at 7pm or sat in the dark 😂

I love holidays and have gone on holidays with my kids as soon as I was well enough to travel and their first passport had arrived. Being a martyr and going to bed at 7 for some strange reasons has never been on my list.

Never even occurred to me to dump my kids in a hotel room.

We just used to suspend normality on holiday, so kids went to bed a bit later or slept in a buggy by the mini disco. Never had to sit in the bathroom in the dark. Balconey with wine, maybe. And that period only actually lasts a couple of years.

But I suspect most of us who didn't leave kids in hotel rooms didn't go the sort of holidays where adults dined separately to their kids on the family holiday. Got 51 other weekends to do that.

Never even occurred to me to dump my kids in a hotel room.

why would you dump them?

You can do that at home.

that's the thing, I don't.

and I don't know anyone who would just leave a baby or any child in a hotel room.

At one of those style hotels my dc went to “movie club” with a load of other dc to watch a film whilst DH & I eat dinner/had a drink. I didn’t have an issue with it.

Oh & I didn’t dump them in the movie club!

If it’s got a kids disco you’re not talking about the same type of hotel …

@theneighbourstolemyteacup but hotels offering these services exist. I have never used a kids club abroad or ski school but again I know they are a thing. I have never needed a babysitter but again I know it’s a thing.

Ouch! 😆

Well that’s just a difference of opinion on what’s better for the kids / what your kids are able to withstand.

We are talking about babies, and some babies don’t like being kept up too late, and would prevent you from eg sitting and eating a meal in a restaurant.

My older child I can do that with, a baby less so. Actually <4 months it was fine, but not after.

The baby isn’t ’dining with us’ because they’re a baby, so I don’t think they feel left out from the conversation or cuisine.

As for ‘you have the other 51 weeks to do that’ - well… no, being in the hotel is the opportunity to dine in a restaurant which you don’t have the rest of the time as it’s nearby. And I do like to go away more than once a year… so perhaps in my scenario you need to find ways to adapt vs one week and hope for the best.

I have not stayed in a hotel with a ‘mini disco’ but I assume these are the kinds of huge resorts where you would be a long way from your child from room to restaurant, and in that scenario I wouldn’t necessarily do it either.

But it cuts to the heart of it.

I think people are talking about very different types of hotel here.

Not huge resorts but small hotels where it's no more risky than doing it in your own home

Despite having children, I like to broaden my horizons to beyond the four walls of my house.

I'm confused as to why it's so unacceptable. Don't people sit in their gardens while babies are asleep in bed. And what do you think would actually be happening to a sleeping baby in a secure room in the same building.

I remember when my kids were young there was baby listening services available in hotel and holiday camps and they'd beep you to sort out kids if they woke ( not that I ever got to use with my nocturnal eldest) but I would have had she settled to sleep

And maybe people did with no issues

Keeping your mouth shut instead of arguing against something you will never understand or comprehend is best. Some things are bigger than your opinion and won’t be changed by your opinion. Best to keep quiet instead of embarrassing yourself.

Yes so do I and when my children were young we never left them alone while on holiday.

"...the younger ones are thriving in their studies and looking at having high powered careers. I don’t know any that fit the ND, online stereotypes."

That's interesting.

My DH was involved in a legal case against the Women's Institute last year and it was a large part of their defence that trans-identifying men are likely the most disadvantaged group in society today.

They said that:

"Trans people suffer disproportionately from poor mental health, including depression, which cannot be disconnected from their experience of exclusion, loneliness and isolation."

They also claimed that:

"It is well documented that trans people suffer disproportionately from poor mental health, including depression, which cannot be disconnected from their feeling of exclusion. A 2024 study found that transgender people in England are much more likely to have a long-term mental health condition, with the risk increased for transgender women compared to cis men and women.7 Research from The Trevor Project found that 68% of transgender women had considered suicide in the last year, and 23% had attempted suicide in the last year."

and

"A 2024 study of university applicants found that 81% of trans/non-binary
applicants had missed education due to their mental health."

and

"Further, as a result of these disadvantages, trans people are disproportionately under-represented in a wide range of education, professions and roles in public life. The government’s national LGBT survey found that compared to all respondents aged 16-64, trans women within that age range were less likely to have had a paid job in the 12 months preceding the survey – only 65% of trans women had one."

And this was from a noted junior at 11KBW chambers.

They decided not to test those claims in court though and changed their membership policy.

Good for you.

@villadicanceI agree

So, I do this from time to time. Either that or use the word "anyway".

Yes, it is very much a filler word but that is how I speak normally. I tend to write in the same way that I speak (unless it's for some formal document!) and I will often start a sentence with a filler word like that when I am speaking.

Go on then, tell us all your brilliant solution.