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WIBU to divorce due to DH quitting his job whilst I’m a SAHM?

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Ilovechristmasssssssssssss · Today 12:09

We have young children under the age of 5.

I’m a SAHM whilst DH works (which we are both in agreement with). He has a high earning role, but has been increasingly unhappy with the politics of the job.

He came home and announced that he is quitting tomorrow. Nothing lined up but says he will ‘make it work’. Worst case scenario we will have to sell our home and downsize.

Despite him having a well paid role, we have zero savings as our outgoings are high and due to some other factors. We have a minimum debt payment of £3,000 per month (DH brings home approx £10,000 per month).

I am considering telling him that it’s over between us if he does this. I am fed up of picking up everything family-wise for him to just throw our lives into turmoil like this.

OP posts:
Ilovechristmasssssssssssss · Today 13:57

BadgerInTheAirDuct · Today 13:56

I promise you he'd be fine without you being a SAHM. That's just something people say to SAHM.

You, on the other hand, would have to work and that sounds like it might be a problem for you.

Ok. You’re right as you clearly know more about our lives than I do.

OP posts:
Backedoffhackedoff · Today 13:58

Ilovechristmasssssssssssss · Today 13:55

I’m sorry, but he does not earn enough for a live in nanny who’d be prepared to work all hours. He has regular abroad trips for weeks at a time. You are nitpicking.

He can easily get other jobs by the sound of it, he’s done it multiple tomes

no-one needs to work in America for weeks at a time for £150k

Passaggressfedup · Today 13:58

I’m sorry, but he does not earn enough for a live in nanny who’d be prepared to work all hours. He has regular abroad trips for weeks at a time. You are nitpicking
Not really....of course he should be able to afford a nanny on £120k, but if that's really too expensive, there are of course always the good old au pair!

mydogisthebest · Today 13:59

Well I could not be married to a man who kept his bank account secret. In our house ALL money is OUR money and is in a joint account

Ilovechristmasssssssssssss · Today 13:59

Backedoffhackedoff · Today 13:56

This. Sorry OP but this insistence that sahms are essential for high earning partners is a fallacy that makes sahms feel better about their role

i replaced my work shy partner with childcare, as has every high earning divorced male i know. It’s actually easier, you only have to pay them and not worry about anything else

Edited

DH goes abroad for weeks at a time. Often without notice.

Even if it were possible for him to be able to afford a nanny to cover this (which it wouldn’t be), there’s no way he would want a stranger looking after his children. Hence his preference for me being a SAHM.

OP posts:
Ilovechristmasssssssssssss · Today 13:59

Backedoffhackedoff · Today 13:58

He can easily get other jobs by the sound of it, he’s done it multiple tomes

no-one needs to work in America for weeks at a time for £150k

You don’t know his role. I can assure you, he does.

OP posts:
NoAprilFool · Today 14:00

Ilovechristmasssssssssssss · Today 13:55

I’m sorry, but he does not earn enough for a live in nanny who’d be prepared to work all hours. He has regular abroad trips for weeks at a time. You are nitpicking.

Why would he need a live in nanny who works all hours? Unless the job you’d get would be 24/7…
Children in nursery/wraparound while you work. No need for a nanny, live in or otherwise

Random321 · Today 14:00

None of this makes sense at all.

You don't appear to know his salary for definite.
You don't have acess to bank account so really have jo idea what's going on.
You have £150k debt.
You pay £3k repayments monthly.
You don't appear to know where the other £7k goes.
You mention school fees for kids too young to have them.
You then say school fees apply from September onwards.
Why private schiol when you can't afford it?
Small kids don't need it either.
No plans to work when child in school.
Husband wants to leave job - no real understanding of that either.
Are you sure understand gross & net salary differences?

The entire thing is a mess.
You are both finamcially incontentient.
You seem entitled.
He seems feckless.

You appear to be in denial about your role here.
It's beyind stupid to say I do all the childcare so I don't need to pay attention to finances once I'm bankrolled.

Both of you need to grow up and understand everything that's going on - whether you are together or divorced.

Backedoffhackedoff · Today 14:02

Ilovechristmasssssssssssss · Today 13:59

You don’t know his role. I can assure you, he does.

What would he do if you died then?

Passaggressfedup · Today 14:02

Even if it were possible for him to be able to afford a nanny to cover this (which it wouldn’t be), there’s no way he would want a stranger looking after his children. Hence his preference for me being a SAHM
The point is that he could if he really had to. You on the other hand are totally dependent on him because you couldn't go and earn what he earns.

indigox · Today 14:02

Ilovechristmasssssssssssss · Today 13:51

Because my DH wouldn’t be able to do his job without me being a SAHM?

So no single parents can do this job?

BadgerInTheAirDuct · Today 14:02

NoAprilFool · Today 14:00

Why would he need a live in nanny who works all hours? Unless the job you’d get would be 24/7…
Children in nursery/wraparound while you work. No need for a nanny, live in or otherwise

Exactly. The children have two parents.

OvernightOats101 · Today 14:03

Ilovechristmasssssssssssss · Today 13:56

So £10,000 per month is enough for all bills and staff to look after your children for weeks at a time whilst you’re in America? Working long hours?

again.. how do you think other people manage?

yes, they likely have to downsize. But you know that there are single mothers who are nurses, doctors, paramedic and work night shifts? What do you think happens to the young children while they are working?

If you have a preschooler, you can be in America, in China or the hospital 2 blocks away, you are not home. You need childcare. Day and night.

Different when you have a teenager.

So £10,000 per month is enough
of course it's enough. You just budget accordingly.

IDasIX · Today 14:03

You’ve had children with a man who doesn’t seem to have wanted them, and become completely financially dependent on someone who hates his job.

You can threaten divorce but you don’t actually have any leverage here. You’re going to end up a lot poorer than you are now whatever happens.

BadgerInTheAirDuct · Today 14:03

Ilovechristmasssssssssssss · Today 13:59

DH goes abroad for weeks at a time. Often without notice.

Even if it were possible for him to be able to afford a nanny to cover this (which it wouldn’t be), there’s no way he would want a stranger looking after his children. Hence his preference for me being a SAHM.

He really truly would figure it out. I can assure you. Whoever told you your role as a SAHM makes you irreplaceable is a big old liar.

Ilovechristmasssssssssssss · Today 14:04

Backedoffhackedoff · Today 14:02

What would he do if you died then?

We’ve discussed this and have planned for it. A retired family member would move in permanently.

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LiquoriceAllsorts2 · Today 14:04

It sounds like he’s at his end with his job and needs a break before he has a burnout. He needs you step up now and support the family rather than to walk away from him

LoremIpsumCici · Today 14:05

Viviennemary · Today 13:45

His take home pay is £10k a month according to OP. So his actual salary would be a lot higher. I hope OP does realiise workers need to pay tax. Or does she just assume a £120k a year salary means you take home £10k a month.

Ok, I read it as £10k gross with £7k net and all of it and more was being spent due to £3k of it going towards the £150k debt run up over years of similar spending money faster than it comes in with no thought for any possibility of a break in pay cheques or a rainy day.

OvernightOats101 · Today 14:05

NoAprilFool · Today 14:00

Why would he need a live in nanny who works all hours? Unless the job you’d get would be 24/7…
Children in nursery/wraparound while you work. No need for a nanny, live in or otherwise

because not everybody works a 9 to 5, and some parents might be able to manage with nurseries, but others need longer and more flexible hours.
nothing wrong with having a nanny?

You can also keep the nanny when they start school and you need even more wraparound care, not less. Schools are more difficult than nurseries for a working parent.

You just employ the most suitable and realistic childcare for your lifestyle. It's not that hard.

justasking111 · Today 14:05

Ilovechristmasssssssssssss · Today 13:51

Because my DH wouldn’t be able to do his job without me being a SAHM?

Absolute bull 💩. You put them in nursery etc like most of the working population.

I've a feeling that you don't have any qualifications, so need to start at the bottom.

Ginmonkeyagain · Today 14:05

You have £3k a month debt repayments, is that on top of your mortgage? If so I am not sure you can afford for one of you not to work. What would be the plan of your DH was made redundant or became too ill to work?

Ilovechristmasssssssssssss · Today 14:05

indigox · Today 14:02

So no single parents can do this job?

Not unless they wanted their children to grow up with strangers, no.

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rainbowstardrops · Today 14:05

LoremIpsumCici · Today 13:32

Actually the OP said the SAHM/sole earner was a joint agreement. She wanted it as much as him. This is as much about him supporting her to be a SAHM and not have to work as it is she supporting him to work all hours.

They have both caused the issue of poor money management when one is overseeing income and the other outgoings, you need to communicate and budget. Both dropped the ball there.

He isn’t walking away from his half of the agreement, he is still ok being the sole earner and her a SAHM. He just wants to be able to quit his job now over disagreement on a project (OP hasn’t bothered to ask) and there be a gap until another job.

It’s the same as OP saying hey I’m going to stay with relative x for six weeks as they’re having brain surgery so we need to have child care or you need to take time off work to cover it.

I agree that they both have poor communication and monetary issues but he can’t just leave a job without a back up plan to fund it when they’re already in shit loads of debt! That is absolute madness!
Oh and if OP said she was off for six weeks to care for a sick relative and then said the kids and house were over to him, I’d hazard a guess that he wouldn’t be best pleased with that/wouldn’t have a clue what to do!
He might get another job in 6 days. It could be 6 weeks or 6 months and they’re already in debt!
As I said before, I’d have divorced him for the secret £150k+ secret debt in the first place.

justasking111 · Today 14:06

Ilovechristmasssssssssssss · Today 14:04

We’ve discussed this and have planned for it. A retired family member would move in permanently.

So you'd nab their money? Classy.

Shinyandnew1 · Today 14:07

Ilovechristmasssssssssssss · Today 13:59

DH goes abroad for weeks at a time. Often without notice.

Even if it were possible for him to be able to afford a nanny to cover this (which it wouldn’t be), there’s no way he would want a stranger looking after his children. Hence his preference for me being a SAHM.

But, if you divorce him, you’ll won’t be able to be a stay at home mum. You will have to find some way to house you and your children and a job to pay the bills.