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To be annoyed at the assumption that I am a Mrs?

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Cheeseandolivesplease · 20/07/2026 21:57

So I completed a update form at the dentist for myself and my daughter; the ones they routinely hand out. It didn't ask for my title, but I ticked the "married" box.
Next thing I know, my name pings up on the screen as Mrs .
Just no!!
At the end of my appointment I went to ask for it to be corrected, but AIBU to be annoyed at the assumption?
A bit like the thread today referring to the new prime minister's wife as Mrs Burnham. She is Ms van Heel.

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RomaRoamer · 27/07/2026 15:31

Cheeseandolivesplease · 27/07/2026 14:56

@RomaRoamer You honestly can't identify the offensive phrase you used?
And of course I'm challenging it - I'm a married Ms for a start!
I also spend a considerable proportion of my time educating young people on the incorrect assumption (still held by many grown women as evidenced so clearly here) that one automatically becomes a Mrs upon marriage and also regarding the relevance of challenging the internalised misogyny of female honorifics within today's society.

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You going by Ms is doing zero to change other women’s lives. You overestimate your influence and how much people actually care about what you call yourself.

I’d argue the way you speak down to and judge other women is having more of an adverse effect on women than going by “Mrs.”

Women judging other women upholds the patriarchy much better than titles. On one
of your other threads you’re being rude about women picking certain engagement rings!

So the reality is you’re doing very little to challenge the patriarchy in the grand scheme of things, but a whole lot more to uphold it by suggesting women who choose solitaires or go by Mrs are inferior in their choices.

That is not feminism.

78Summer · 27/07/2026 15:35

First world problems. And I am a Ms.

Cheeseandolivesplease · 27/07/2026 16:09

@78Summer Interesting to note that the other poster couldn't identify it? Perhaps she doesn't have any concept of why that phrase is offensive? Assuming you do, of course?

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QuintadosMalvados · 27/07/2026 16:11

RomaRoamer · 27/07/2026 15:31

You going by Ms is doing zero to change other women’s lives. You overestimate your influence and how much people actually care about what you call yourself.

I’d argue the way you speak down to and judge other women is having more of an adverse effect on women than going by “Mrs.”

Women judging other women upholds the patriarchy much better than titles. On one
of your other threads you’re being rude about women picking certain engagement rings!

So the reality is you’re doing very little to challenge the patriarchy in the grand scheme of things, but a whole lot more to uphold it by suggesting women who choose solitaires or go by Mrs are inferior in their choices.

That is not feminism.

I agree.
Also not considered the negative effect it would have on the (probably female) receptionist, either.

I am not getting the impression from the way the OP has interacted with myself (calling me a misogynist) and others that it would have been a polite correction in the manner of, 'I know you mean well, and I understand why you might pick Mrs, but please could you change it to Ms? ', either.

And I'm sorry but I've already said how ridiculous I find her wearing an engagement ring is when she claims to be fighting the patriarchy.
Like that's not a symbol that this woman is now a man' s possession? 😕
when viewed through the lens of patriarchy, that is.

Cheeseandolivesplease · 27/07/2026 16:23

@QuintadosMalvados Oh yes, informing the receptionist without "considering the negative effect my Ms title would have on the (probably female) receptionist" wasn't reasonable(!) It would have made her feel just awful. After all, all married women should just accept being addressed incorrectly and not ask for correction so as not to offend. You're not supporting the patriarchy here at all. And no idea what on earth you are on about re the receptionist either.

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RomaRoamer · 27/07/2026 16:36

Cheeseandolivesplease · 27/07/2026 16:09

@78Summer Interesting to note that the other poster couldn't identify it? Perhaps she doesn't have any concept of why that phrase is offensive? Assuming you do, of course?

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That’s it, shift the focus onto how arguably offensive a common phrase is to avoid addressing how genuinely offensive you have been yourself.

QuintadosMalvados · 27/07/2026 16:36

Cheeseandolivesplease · 27/07/2026 16:23

@QuintadosMalvados Oh yes, informing the receptionist without "considering the negative effect my Ms title would have on the (probably female) receptionist" wasn't reasonable(!) It would have made her feel just awful. After all, all married women should just accept being addressed incorrectly and not ask for correction so as not to offend. You're not supporting the patriarchy here at all. And no idea what on earth you are on about re the receptionist either.

You've totally misread the post. Let me try again.

You have been rude to myself and others here.
Thus I am under the impression that the way in which you corrected her would have not been in a polite manner e. g. Please, I know it's easy to assume that I'm Mrs, but I prefer Ms, can you change that please., but in a rude, brusque way.

Thus making another female feel bad when you would not have done had you simply been polite.

Why are you so obsessed by the patriarchy anyway?
You don't strike me as being particularly oppressed.
And you don't seem to be helping those that actually are.

RomaRoamer · 27/07/2026 16:38

QuintadosMalvados · 27/07/2026 16:11

I agree.
Also not considered the negative effect it would have on the (probably female) receptionist, either.

I am not getting the impression from the way the OP has interacted with myself (calling me a misogynist) and others that it would have been a polite correction in the manner of, 'I know you mean well, and I understand why you might pick Mrs, but please could you change it to Ms? ', either.

And I'm sorry but I've already said how ridiculous I find her wearing an engagement ring is when she claims to be fighting the patriarchy.
Like that's not a symbol that this woman is now a man' s possession? 😕
when viewed through the lens of patriarchy, that is.

Agreed. However, this poster thinks engagement rings are ok to wear as long as they aren’t big solitaires. Just another thread bashing women’s choices.

Cheeseandolivesplease · 27/07/2026 16:40

Highlight where I have been offensive, @RomaRoamer.
i shall do the same.
The phrase "first world problem" because it is often used to dismiss distress, rely on outdated geopolitical labels, and generalize global poverty. 1, 2, 3]

Why the phrase ‘first world problem’ is condescending to everyone

It’s not just a comical apology for trivial moaning and an enjoyable internet meme – there’s also something darker going on

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2015/oct/02/why-phrase-first-world-problem-is-condescending-to-everyone

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RomaRoamer · 27/07/2026 16:49

Cheeseandolivesplease · 27/07/2026 16:40

Highlight where I have been offensive, @RomaRoamer.
i shall do the same.
The phrase "first world problem" because it is often used to dismiss distress, rely on outdated geopolitical labels, and generalize global poverty. 1, 2, 3]

You’re just shifting the focus away from yourself by clinging onto people’s use of that phrase. Whether it’s “offensive” or not could be argued, but the meaning of it remains the same.

To complain about comparatively insignificant issues whilst ignoring bigger problems elsewhere.

You have been offensive throughout this thread and others. You take on an air of superiority over other women who haven’t conformed to your choices or views, which in itself is the antithesis of feminism.

Many people have called you out on this behaviour.

QuintadosMalvados · 27/07/2026 16:49

RomaRoamer · 27/07/2026 16:38

Agreed. However, this poster thinks engagement rings are ok to wear as long as they aren’t big solitaires. Just another thread bashing women’s choices.

OK to wear an engagement ring when you're committed to fighting symbols of patriarchal oppression such as being known as Mrs?
Does not make sense.

Then being rude to other women with different choices.

I hear what you say and I agree.

QuirkyHorse · 27/07/2026 16:52

I don't wear a wedding ring and people assume I'm a Miss.
If I can be arsed, I correct them.

Cheeseandolivesplease · 27/07/2026 16:58

I'm still waiting for either @RomaRoamer Or @QuintadosMalvados to provide examples of my being "offensive".
Or perhaps they just don't like/feel threatened by an assertive and strong woman?

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RomaRoamer · 27/07/2026 17:02

Cheeseandolivesplease · 27/07/2026 16:58

I'm still waiting for either @RomaRoamer Or @QuintadosMalvados to provide examples of my being "offensive".
Or perhaps they just don't like/feel threatened by an assertive and strong woman?

Assertive, strong women don’t get so easily slightly when incorrectly titled, much less, so bothered about it that they would start a thread that drags other women down for their choices. It smacks of insecurity.

Cheeseandolivesplease · 27/07/2026 17:03

@RomaRoamer I'm still waiting...

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RomaRoamer · 27/07/2026 17:04

Cheeseandolivesplease · 27/07/2026 17:03

@RomaRoamer I'm still waiting...

And many of us are still waiting for you to answer our questions….

Cheeseandolivesplease · 27/07/2026 17:07

@RomaRoamer What questions? Have you found those examples yet?

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Swiftie1878 · 27/07/2026 17:09

Cheeseandolivesplease · 20/07/2026 22:12

@PinkCatCushion That's you though. I chose not to play a part in supporting the patriarchy.

Offensive.

Swiftie1878 · 27/07/2026 17:11

Cheeseandolivesplease · 21/07/2026 10:15

@stepupp Likewise, I find people who don't see it as a huge issue (and understand why it is) as naive.

Offensive.

Cheeseandolivesplease · 27/07/2026 17:13

@Swiftie1878 Fact. Research is your friend.

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Swiftie1878 · 27/07/2026 17:14

Cheeseandolivesplease · 22/07/2026 23:31

@Nowyouseeme123 Exactly. So many women see titles as trivial but as you say, any woman calling themselves Mrs anything is contributing to a patriarchal system. Do you think they genuinely just don't see it or choose to ignore it to passify husbands?
The reality is, men by their very nature tend to support the patriarchy. How many husbands are happy with their wives going by Ms HerName? How many men would object? And how many women, deep down, know this and therefore title/name change?
Some others even believe Mrs is the "default title" upon marriage! You would of course hope not, but I think, judging from this thread alone, it would be quite surprising (and concerning), just how many do.

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Offensive.

Swiftie1878 · 27/07/2026 17:15

Cheeseandolivesplease · 27/07/2026 17:13

@Swiftie1878 Fact. Research is your friend.

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Opinion. Yours.

toomanycoffeecups · 27/07/2026 17:16

Busy admin staff go with the norm. The norm - for a married woman is Mrs. If you want to deviate from the usual then just say so without being a diva about it. They aren’t mind readers and probably have absolutely no interest or thought as to why this offends you. As 9/10 married women couldn’t care less.

Cheeseandolivesplease · 27/07/2026 17:16

@Swiftie1878 You're conflating assertive with "offensive." None of your examples are showing anything offensive!

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Cheeseandolivesplease · 27/07/2026 17:16

@Swiftie1878 Not offensive, however.

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