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Is my DH manipulating or should I give him the money?

294 replies

mcrlover · Yesterday 21:43

Sorry for the long post, don't want to dripfeed.

My partner (not married) and I have been together 4 years and have a DD (1 year old). When we met, I was in quite a hippie mindset - we were travelling a lot. Partner was working freelance, before we met he had a thriving business and saved a lot of income. His business ended because the sector was becoming redundant. Since we met, he has still barely earned. At the start of the relationship he had motivation to try and make a new business work, but without a business partner he struggled. He was always the "doer" and relied on a business partner to handle the client acquisition etc - he is very shy and introverted. Also, we suspect, on the autistic spectrum.

Throughout the relationship I worked full time. We always kept finances separate and split costs 50:50. When I got pregnant the plan was for me to take maternity pay, then take unpaid maternity leave and live off my savings (my savings would have run out by the end). He has 10's of K in savings still, despite earning less than his outgoings for the 4 years (he had a lot saved to start with).

Luckily during my maternity leave I landed a very high paid job, and now earn a lot of income. My partner thinks I should give him half my salary each month, and I'm not sure if that's unfair, or if I'm being stingy saying no.

Since I earned more, I have been contributing proportionally more for shared costs and baby costs, which I think is fair. But I'm on a freelance contract, which is going well, but there's a chance it won't be renewed at the end of the year.

He said he can't find a job as he has burnout from all the travelling and logistics around it. So I agreed we settle in his home country near his family (although I would prefer settling near mine). He is also demanding half my income, despite having 10s of k in savings. He said he doesn't like spending his savings (but I want to save for pension and baby!! Neither of us have a pension)

And I'm worried that if I pay him so much he would lose any last push to find a job. I asked him what he would do if I split the income with him - he said he would let go of his already very very part-time income stream. I said he could either be a stay at home dad and we split my income, or he pays his way (while I still contribute more to shared costs).

FYI its not like he does more home chores - I do all the cleaning, cooking, baby food prep, childcare organisation, babys clothes, packing and unpacking her stuff, and pay for most of the full time childcare. He leads travel logistics/subletting the apartment.

I can't tell if he is genuinely burned out and I should help him get back on his feet by easing the financial stress. Or if he is taking me for a ride and I'm being manipulated.

AIBU: he has burnout, we co-parent, I earn more than him and it's fair I split my income with him?
Or AINBU: Paying him would amount to enabling, and I need to focus on saving responsibly?

OP posts:
cestlavielife · Yesterday 21:48

You are not married.
If he is doing the childcare meaning all of it sure "pay" him. But not half your income.

66babe · Yesterday 21:50

Do you need to ask ? Look after yourself and your baby.

thetinsoldier · Yesterday 21:52

is he taking the piss?? Burnt out from travelling?? 😂😂

What he wants is not funny.

He’s a cocklodger. Leave him.

mcrlover · Yesterday 21:52

My gut is saying IANBU but I think I have such a complex about stinginess that I'm doubting myself, especially given how certain he is that splitting the income is the fair thing to do and he's saying I'm being unsympathetic to his burnout, not understanding his point of view, etc

OP posts:
ShetlandishMum · Yesterday 21:54

No way I would. And I would rethink my
relationship.
Easier to spend your money than doing a job - nice.

Sally2791 · Yesterday 21:55

Lazy sponger

MrsTerryPratchett · Yesterday 21:55

Are you already living in his home country? Because you are stuck there if you are.

Just to sum up... he works very part time while you cook, clean, work, paid for your own maternity and you're not married.

Jk987 · Yesterday 21:55

Why the hell should you give him half your salary? Under what circumstances does a partner regardless of sex do that?

geoger · Yesterday 21:56

Leave
Leave
Leave
Do not tolerate this lazy fucker any longer

Loubissou · Yesterday 21:56

Burnout from living frivolously. Fuck me, he is an idle chancer. Get out before he destroys you financially and emotionally.

mcrlover · Yesterday 21:58

Not moved to his home country yet - we recently agreed to do that after months of disagreement because he said the stability and familiarity would help him recover from the burnout and start again with his career, though it does feel like a very intangible promise and I am worried about that too after seeing some horrible situations on MN of mums stuck in their ex-DH's country after divorce.

I think I caved after months of arguments, him saying every day how unhappy he is away from home, and desperation to keep the family together

OP posts:
Hecatoncheires · Yesterday 21:59

Good lord, what have I read? OP, is this for real? I'm having a hard time believing that this is a real scenario and you are genuinely doubting yourself. Give him nothing! The lazy arse can get a job. Take your high-paying salary, your child and run for the bloody hills.

ShakaWhenTheWallsFell · Yesterday 21:59

Why have you chosen not to get married? If the relationship is good for the here and now, but you (singular or plural 'you') don't want to make the commitment to build a "death do you part" life together then don't sub him.

Or if you don't value the idea of marriage, but are both completely committed to grow old with each other then you need to do what it takes. Right now I'd say what it takes is him getting some mental health support/autism diagnosis so that he's able to work full time in the near future. And perhaps you'll need to contribute more financialy for a short amount of time while he gets himself sorted. But you both need to be very honest about your expectations of each other and both be willing to be held to account

As an aside, how old are you both and how much disposable income do you have? You really need to start pensions, no matter what else you are doing. Even if you can only afford £50 or £100 a month. Start now. Compound interest is no joke.

ShetlandishMum · Yesterday 22:00

mcrlover · Yesterday 21:58

Not moved to his home country yet - we recently agreed to do that after months of disagreement because he said the stability and familiarity would help him recover from the burnout and start again with his career, though it does feel like a very intangible promise and I am worried about that too after seeing some horrible situations on MN of mums stuck in their ex-DH's country after divorce.

I think I caved after months of arguments, him saying every day how unhappy he is away from home, and desperation to keep the family together

I would stay in my well paid job. Not relocate with a man not having a clue about taking care of a family.

RoseOliviaAu · Yesterday 22:00

He needs to be doing the SAH role? Aka all childcare and housework etc except on weekends when you help. If so then I think the money minus savings and after pension should go in a pot you both have access to spend.

If not, he needs to get a job or you split up because you haven’t agreed to finance his life… you’re not even married.

Hecatoncheires · Yesterday 22:00

And whatever you do, DO NOT move to his country! Thank goodness you're not already there. If you were my DD my blood would be running cold.

Loulou4022 · Yesterday 22:00

What
the
absolute
fuck!!!!
He’s doing no housework/ childcare or working/ earning a wage! and he expects you to give him half of your wages while you’re working full time and carrying the load at home! Have I got that right??
He can fucking jog on and tell him not to let the door hit him on the way out!!

geoger · Yesterday 22:00

Do not give him any of your money
Do not under any circumstances move to his home country

Who owns the home you live in?

AImportantMermaid · Yesterday 22:01

Congratulations on your new cocklodger, OP. TBF, if I could afford it and could be sure I’d come home to a clean house, laundry done, and dinner on the table every night I’d embrace it with both arms, but if I still had to do 95% of the chores while he sat on his arse doomscrolling or playing FIFA then I’d be off to the hills. Can you leave the country with your baby? Would you want to?

AndSoFinally · Yesterday 22:02

I would give him a decent chunk of my salary, or at least pool all money (including his savings) if we were married and he was genuinely doing the SAHD role, with all the household duties that entails. But not like this. You’re doing the lions share of everything and you have to pay him for the privilege? No

Glitterbiscuits · Yesterday 22:02

Go home to your family.
He sounds awful

nomas · Yesterday 22:03

mcrlover · Yesterday 21:58

Not moved to his home country yet - we recently agreed to do that after months of disagreement because he said the stability and familiarity would help him recover from the burnout and start again with his career, though it does feel like a very intangible promise and I am worried about that too after seeing some horrible situations on MN of mums stuck in their ex-DH's country after divorce.

I think I caved after months of arguments, him saying every day how unhappy he is away from home, and desperation to keep the family together

Omg don’t move there. You will be trapped.

I think you should leave him.

Do not give him any money.

grumpygrape · Yesterday 22:04

If he wanted half of everything he 'should have put a ring on it'. Luckily for you he didn't so you can enjoy your earnings and you and your child can live where YOU want and feel comfortable without this waster dragging you down.
Purely my opinion, obviously 😊

mcrlover · Yesterday 22:04

I really don't want to put our DD through the instability and heartbreak of having separated parents living in different countries. But he is just totally unwilling to meet me halfway.

Agreed, I'd also embrace with open arms if he wanted to be a SAHD and actually pull his weight, would be happy to share all the income in that scenario. But this isn't the situation.

Not married because we've only been together 4 years - not against marriage, but we didn't feel a need to rush it - so many big life steps since we met anyway. And given his attitude to money I'm now very glad we aren't married!

OP posts:
Lmnop22 · Yesterday 22:05

Burnout from what? He’s very very part time employed and wants half your salary to spend on himself??

Jesus, just leave him 😳

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