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Is my DH manipulating or should I give him the money?

299 replies

mcrlover · Yesterday 21:43

Sorry for the long post, don't want to dripfeed.

My partner (not married) and I have been together 4 years and have a DD (1 year old). When we met, I was in quite a hippie mindset - we were travelling a lot. Partner was working freelance, before we met he had a thriving business and saved a lot of income. His business ended because the sector was becoming redundant. Since we met, he has still barely earned. At the start of the relationship he had motivation to try and make a new business work, but without a business partner he struggled. He was always the "doer" and relied on a business partner to handle the client acquisition etc - he is very shy and introverted. Also, we suspect, on the autistic spectrum.

Throughout the relationship I worked full time. We always kept finances separate and split costs 50:50. When I got pregnant the plan was for me to take maternity pay, then take unpaid maternity leave and live off my savings (my savings would have run out by the end). He has 10's of K in savings still, despite earning less than his outgoings for the 4 years (he had a lot saved to start with).

Luckily during my maternity leave I landed a very high paid job, and now earn a lot of income. My partner thinks I should give him half my salary each month, and I'm not sure if that's unfair, or if I'm being stingy saying no.

Since I earned more, I have been contributing proportionally more for shared costs and baby costs, which I think is fair. But I'm on a freelance contract, which is going well, but there's a chance it won't be renewed at the end of the year.

He said he can't find a job as he has burnout from all the travelling and logistics around it. So I agreed we settle in his home country near his family (although I would prefer settling near mine). He is also demanding half my income, despite having 10s of k in savings. He said he doesn't like spending his savings (but I want to save for pension and baby!! Neither of us have a pension)

And I'm worried that if I pay him so much he would lose any last push to find a job. I asked him what he would do if I split the income with him - he said he would let go of his already very very part-time income stream. I said he could either be a stay at home dad and we split my income, or he pays his way (while I still contribute more to shared costs).

FYI its not like he does more home chores - I do all the cleaning, cooking, baby food prep, childcare organisation, babys clothes, packing and unpacking her stuff, and pay for most of the full time childcare. He leads travel logistics/subletting the apartment.

I can't tell if he is genuinely burned out and I should help him get back on his feet by easing the financial stress. Or if he is taking me for a ride and I'm being manipulated.

AIBU: he has burnout, we co-parent, I earn more than him and it's fair I split my income with him?
Or AINBU: Paying him would amount to enabling, and I need to focus on saving responsibly?

OP posts:
AImportantMermaid · Yesterday 22:05

Burnout from arranging the travelling 😂😂😂 How on earth do travel agents cope with the terrible stress of organising trips? Come on, OP, you haven’t travelled for a year or two now. If he still has burnout he needs to see a therapist because that’s not normal. It’s not like he was digging for coal down the mines. Offer to pay for mental health support so he can get back to work.

LizandDerekGoals · Yesterday 22:05

He isnt a sahp. He isnt a house husband. He is a freeloader. Dump him.

Bloodysauce · Yesterday 22:06

So, what's he saving his 10ks for whilst living off you and asking for more? Just asking. He is not a serious man, a poor husband and father. On no account give him half your salary! Of course not. Lose him before he effs you up completely.

Pieandchips999 · Yesterday 22:06

No no no no no. Do not move to his home country for exactly the reason you have identified. Life is often tougher when you're autistic sadly. You need to make adjustments for this but he hasn't even looked at a diagnosis or support and you can't let his needs and nagging rule your whole life. He managed before you came along and your first priority is your children. Moving to his home country is not going to make everything better. And money wise you do not have enough buffer to give him half your money. Please prioritise your child and security your final future like having no pension. Some people make nice partners but poor partners

mcrlover · Yesterday 22:07

Ah so my work is fully remote, we continue to travel throughout - for a few weeks/short months at a time - between my dream location where we share the property (he's decided he doesn't want to live there any more), and his home town and my home town

OP posts:
Idontjetwashthefucker · Yesterday 22:07

Fuck me what have I just read?! Absolutely run very far and fast from this pathetic excuse from a man...and never look back!

Specialagentblond · Yesterday 22:08

Tell him to go home, find a job and then you’ll join him. Why would you give up your income for the potential of none? And er no to giving half to him. If he does full time childcare to enable you to work then that’s a different story.

Rosieposy89 · Yesterday 22:09

I've never read a thread before where I've wanted someone to end a relationship so much. He will isolate you and bleed you dry

IrisPallida · Yesterday 22:10

You are paying for cock. He wants you to pay more for it.

Is it gold plated or something? Do you want to bring up a child with a gigolo?

jellyfish798 · Yesterday 22:11

mcrlover · Yesterday 21:43

Sorry for the long post, don't want to dripfeed.

My partner (not married) and I have been together 4 years and have a DD (1 year old). When we met, I was in quite a hippie mindset - we were travelling a lot. Partner was working freelance, before we met he had a thriving business and saved a lot of income. His business ended because the sector was becoming redundant. Since we met, he has still barely earned. At the start of the relationship he had motivation to try and make a new business work, but without a business partner he struggled. He was always the "doer" and relied on a business partner to handle the client acquisition etc - he is very shy and introverted. Also, we suspect, on the autistic spectrum.

Throughout the relationship I worked full time. We always kept finances separate and split costs 50:50. When I got pregnant the plan was for me to take maternity pay, then take unpaid maternity leave and live off my savings (my savings would have run out by the end). He has 10's of K in savings still, despite earning less than his outgoings for the 4 years (he had a lot saved to start with).

Luckily during my maternity leave I landed a very high paid job, and now earn a lot of income. My partner thinks I should give him half my salary each month, and I'm not sure if that's unfair, or if I'm being stingy saying no.

Since I earned more, I have been contributing proportionally more for shared costs and baby costs, which I think is fair. But I'm on a freelance contract, which is going well, but there's a chance it won't be renewed at the end of the year.

He said he can't find a job as he has burnout from all the travelling and logistics around it. So I agreed we settle in his home country near his family (although I would prefer settling near mine). He is also demanding half my income, despite having 10s of k in savings. He said he doesn't like spending his savings (but I want to save for pension and baby!! Neither of us have a pension)

And I'm worried that if I pay him so much he would lose any last push to find a job. I asked him what he would do if I split the income with him - he said he would let go of his already very very part-time income stream. I said he could either be a stay at home dad and we split my income, or he pays his way (while I still contribute more to shared costs).

FYI its not like he does more home chores - I do all the cleaning, cooking, baby food prep, childcare organisation, babys clothes, packing and unpacking her stuff, and pay for most of the full time childcare. He leads travel logistics/subletting the apartment.

I can't tell if he is genuinely burned out and I should help him get back on his feet by easing the financial stress. Or if he is taking me for a ride and I'm being manipulated.

AIBU: he has burnout, we co-parent, I earn more than him and it's fair I split my income with him?
Or AINBU: Paying him would amount to enabling, and I need to focus on saving responsibly?

I'm absolutely baffled as to any good reasons why he wants half your money. It's outrageous. He should be bloody grateful he's got savings and use them, this is what they're for!

Leave him - and stay in your home. Honestly, he sounds absolutely bone idle! Burnt out from travelling? He would get absolutely roasted from everyone I know putting in full time hours and loads of other responsibilities as well 😵‍💫

Ohdearnotthisagain · Yesterday 22:11

Jesus Christ, dump this loser and do not under any circumstances move to his home country or you are stuck there.

VineandIvy · Yesterday 22:11

Sorry, are you insane?

How manipulative is this man that even a small part of you believes there is validity in this request and had to ask mumsnet to sense check it?

He is using you. He also has full control everything seems to be on his terms.

He is not showing up in this relationship as the man he promised to be when you first got together. I would STRONGLY suggest leaving. Giving him half your salary in a country far away from your family leaves you in a vulnerable position and will make it very hard to get out later.

Get out now.

grumpygrape · Yesterday 22:12

mcrlover · Yesterday 22:04

I really don't want to put our DD through the instability and heartbreak of having separated parents living in different countries. But he is just totally unwilling to meet me halfway.

Agreed, I'd also embrace with open arms if he wanted to be a SAHD and actually pull his weight, would be happy to share all the income in that scenario. But this isn't the situation.

Not married because we've only been together 4 years - not against marriage, but we didn't feel a need to rush it - so many big life steps since we met anyway. And given his attitude to money I'm now very glad we aren't married!

Apologies for being blunt but you didn't feel the need to rush into marriage but we're suite happy to rush into parenthood ?

Trust me, children can and do survive separated parents living in different countries. What they are damaged by is bad parental relationships when the parents live together.

Gettingbysomehow · Yesterday 22:13

For God sake OP. Fuck him off. You are not married and owe him nothing. He cant even support his own woman and child. Not only that but he wants to live off you.
He is a huge cocklodger and Id have zero respect for him.
For gods sake dont move to his country. You wont be allowed to remove your child and go home without his permission and you'll be stuck there.
Get rid.

PotatoBreadForTheWin · Yesterday 22:13

mcrlover · Yesterday 21:52

My gut is saying IANBU but I think I have such a complex about stinginess that I'm doubting myself, especially given how certain he is that splitting the income is the fair thing to do and he's saying I'm being unsympathetic to his burnout, not understanding his point of view, etc

You should be unsympathetic re his “burnout”. What a fucking waster, stop being a mug.

MrSchubertWhiskers · Yesterday 22:13

Wrf? He wants half your salary? Has he had a lobotomy?

LizandDerekGoals · Yesterday 22:14

mcrlover · Yesterday 22:07

Ah so my work is fully remote, we continue to travel throughout - for a few weeks/short months at a time - between my dream location where we share the property (he's decided he doesn't want to live there any more), and his home town and my home town

He is very controlling

Pyjamatimenow · Yesterday 22:14

Send him back to his mummy. He’s useless. Worse than useless.

Pedallleur · Yesterday 22:14

mcrlover · Yesterday 21:52

My gut is saying IANBU but I think I have such a complex about stinginess that I'm doubting myself, especially given how certain he is that splitting the income is the fair thing to do and he's saying I'm being unsympathetic to his burnout, not understanding his point of view, etc

Of course he is. Free money, what's not to like. Don't move.

jellyfish798 · Yesterday 22:14

Rosieposy89 · Yesterday 22:09

I've never read a thread before where I've wanted someone to end a relationship so much. He will isolate you and bleed you dry

Deuce Bigalow Male Gigolo 🤣

Thepossibility · Yesterday 22:15

You are not his mummy, he's acting like a teenager expecting to be financed and doing f all. He's had more than enough time dossing about. Time to be an adult man and father.

Neveranynamesleft · Yesterday 22:16

He is taking the p in major style. Get rid asap. Life is way too short for his cheek. You and your daughter will be absolutely fine, you will adjust your lives just as he will without your open purse.

Vaxtable · Yesterday 22:16

I would be saying no. He gets a job and acts like an adult not a bum

persiannly I could be with someone like this. He’s no example to your child and it sounds like he’s just going to get worse

is it really worthwhile staying?

Shinyandnew1 · Yesterday 22:17

Why has he got burnout if he has barely worked for four years?

Pyjamatimenow · Yesterday 22:17

Men are hassle. If they are not making your life better/ easier in some practical/ financial way ( preferably both) they are not worth keeping around.