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AIBU to feel like my holiday has been ruined before we’ve even gone?

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Heathercost · Today 13:42

AIBU to feel like my holiday has been ruined before we’ve even gone?
My husband’s mum and her partner suggested that we all book a cottage in Wales together because they said they wanted to spend some proper time with us as a family.
We booked the cottage for me, my husband, our three children, his mum and her partner. It only sleeps seven, so it was booked for exactly the seven of us.
His mum has now invited another child to come for the whole holiday. Because the cottage only sleeps seven, her partner is now going to sleep in their camper van at night so that the child can take her place inside the cottage.
What makes this harder for me is that his mum and her partner don’t spend a huge amount of time with our three children. They already spend far more time with the child they have invited and are very close to her.
This holiday was their idea. They were the ones who said they wanted to go away with us and spend time with our family. I work full time and have very limited annual leave, so taking a week off is a big thing for me. It now feels as though I’m using that precious time on a holiday that has been completely changed from what I agreed to.
I had already made it clear that I didn’t want anyone else coming. I had also specifically spoken about our last family camping trip and how badly that went.
On that trip, several adults essentially dropped their children at the campsite and then went off to enjoy a relaxing week themselves. The children were left crammed into everybody else’s tents and camper vans, and the adults who had actually stayed at the campsite ended up looking after them all.
I had already said I did not want to be put in that position again. I had that conversation only weeks before this happened, which is partly why I feel so ignored.
The child was asked if she wanted to come and initially said no. I thought that should have been the end of it. Instead, it was brought up again, and she eventually agreed. His mum and partner now feels guilty and wishes they didn’t invite her but it’s done now.
I even suggested that they could simply explain that they had spoken to me and, because of my health and everything that has happened recently, I really needed the holiday to be focused on spending time with my own children. They chose not to do that.
I have PoTS and reactive hypoglycaemia and struggle with dizziness, blackouts, weakness, fatigue and my heart rate shooting up when I stand.
More recently, I was taken into hospital with stroke-like symptoms, including slurred speech, numbness and weakness down one side. Thankfully, a stroke was ruled out, but I’m still experiencing weakness in my arm and leg and problems with my speech at times. I’m now waiting for neurological investigations and neuro physiotherapy.
After such a frightening and exhausting time, I genuinely needed this break. I wanted to use my limited time away from work to spend time with my husband and children, and I hoped the children would finally get some proper time with their grandparents too.
Instead, I now feel as though the focus will mainly be on the child they have invited, because she is the child they already spend the most time with. They have changed the sleeping arrangements and moved one of the original adults out of the cottage to make sure she can come.
It isn’t that I dislike the child, because I don’t, and none of this is her fault. My issue is entirely with the adults. They invited another child onto a holiday that was already full, despite knowing I didn’t want anyone else coming and despite the fact that this was supposed to be their opportunity to spend time with us and our children.
I’m also worried that I’ll end up helping to look after her. If she becomes upset, plays up, wants to go home or needs lots of attention, it will affect the entire holiday. If there are any major problems, her mum will need to come and collect her. I cannot take responsibility for another child while managing my health and looking after my own three.
I feel like I have no choice but to go, put a smile on my face and make sure my children have a lovely time. They’ve been looking forward to it and would be devastated if we cancelled. It wouldn’t be fair for them to lose their holiday because of a decision they had no part in.
But for me, it no longer feels like the holiday I agreed to use my annual leave for. I’m not looking forward to it anymore. It feels like a waste of the very limited time I get off work, and I feel resentful, anxious and hurt that the one boundary I clearly set was ignored.
I’ve decided that after this I won’t agree to any more family holidays, camping trips or similar gatherings, because I don’t trust that the same thing wouldn’t happen again.
AIBU to feel this was unfair, particularly when the holiday was their idea because they claimed they wanted to spend time with us and our children?

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awoombawee · Today 15:01

Speakeasier · Today 14:58

It sounds like you and your DH find it hard to stand up for yourselves which is why people take advantage of you. You’re waiting for them to listen to you. They won’t. You have to be very clear that you won’t be looking after DGD and you will be doing your own thing with your own family. And it’s a shame they’ll be missing out on having fun with your kids.

But be REALLY clear this is the last straw and you won’t be going with them again because of their failure to consider you and back down,.

Otherwise they will continue to walk all over you.

No, she needs to show them that she meant what she said. They can’t go now. It is simple. Not wait for next time it happens.

This is their holiday, don’t waste it.

ForeverPombear · Today 15:02

You said you paid for it so why would it be you that didn't go? Tell them they aren't going unless they uninvite her.

ForeverPombear · Today 15:03

I also like what the PP up the thread said who owns a holiday cottage - they probably won't want a camper van on site so they are going to have to go somewhere else anyway

EnjoyingTheSilence · Today 15:04

I wouldn’t go. Stay at home and do day trips with your children, if you go, your ILs will think all is ok and continue to trample all over your boundaries.

I would also contact where you’re staying and cancel the booking, not to get any money back as it’s too late for that but so that your ILs don’t benefit from a free holiday. But then I’m super petty

Tumbler2121 · Today 15:04

If it's your booking do the in laws have the actual address of the campsite? If not, don't give it to them!

I feel your pain, I do think you have to stick to not allowed more people. Be brave. In particular, in laws will say you're chanaging the deal, you have the perfect answer ... no, you changed the deal.

SpringingOn · Today 15:05

The priority here is that you get a week away with your excited children. So you either cancel, take any financial loss and book somewhere else for the 5 of you or you tell your PIL that they (all 3 of them) are univited. You could say you have checked with holiday cottage terms and conditions and they won't allow the campervan and you are not prepared to risk it. DH should phone his sibling and say their Mum is being unreasonable and he is not trying to fall out with her. Fight fire and manipulation with fire!

Morepositivemum · Today 15:06

Op you either solve it before you go but if you don’t, try and enjoy the holiday, it is for the kids, and the extra kid coming is still a kid!

SpringingOn · Today 15:06

The priority here is that you get a week away with your excited children. So you either cancel, take any financial loss and book somewhere else for the 5 of you or you tell your PIL that they (all 3 of them) are univited. You could say you have checked with holiday cottage terms and conditions and they won't allow the campervan and you are not prepared to risk it. DH should phone his sibling and say their Mum is being unreasonable and he is not trying to fall out with her. Fight fire and manipulation with fire!

RoseBlueuet · Today 15:06

Tumbler2121 · Today 15:04

If it's your booking do the in laws have the actual address of the campsite? If not, don't give it to them!

I feel your pain, I do think you have to stick to not allowed more people. Be brave. In particular, in laws will say you're chanaging the deal, you have the perfect answer ... no, you changed the deal.

Agree. OP, you need to be hard arsed here. If they don't have the actual address, don't hand it over.

If you planned to drive together, leave earlier.

No way would allow these CF'ers to ruin my kids holiday.

Glitchymn1 · Today 15:06

So your mil invited a handful of a child and now wants to bugger of somewhere else to sleep? Oh hell no, absolutely not. Where are they sleeping? Can you stay there instead? It sounds like the holiday from hell.

awoombawee · Today 15:07

EnjoyingTheSilence · Today 15:04

I wouldn’t go. Stay at home and do day trips with your children, if you go, your ILs will think all is ok and continue to trample all over your boundaries.

I would also contact where you’re staying and cancel the booking, not to get any money back as it’s too late for that but so that your ILs don’t benefit from a free holiday. But then I’m super petty

OP definitely should go on her own much needed holiday. Why shouldn’t she.

Monr0e · Today 15:08

OP, those are not your only options, go with them or don't go.

The you really need to go with option 3 which is uninvite them. In fact, dh needs to do this, very firmly. Tell them they have completely ignored your wishes, they have overstepped and are no longer welcome. They will always continue to ignore you unless you stand up for yourself. If you won't do it for yourself, do it for your dc's.

It sounds from your responses that you are going to just go, and then probably spend the week letting your in-laws dictate what happens and you niece rule the roost. And your dc's will be pushed into second place again and have their holiday ruined. Please please don't let that happen. Use the excuse of the holiday let insurance if needs be. But really, they couldn't care less about upsetting you, why are you so bothered about upsetting them?

And put your phone on mute and let dh handle them.

rainbowstardrops · Today 15:09

Heathercost · Today 14:52

We have. I even said we won’t go. And then get bombarded with please go. I was half expecting them to say ok we will let them know she can’t come. I even said use me. Blame me. Say because if her health we’ve spoken to her etc. but they won’t. They’ve told me not to speak to the mum directly as it would make it worse!? The children have been counting down the days to go so it’s not as easy as sticking to I’m not going either. I said I’m not happy. I’ve told her a lot of what I’ve said here about how I feel. But nothing. Not care whatsoever. So we either don’t go and the children are upset. Or I suck it up a fake a smile and try and make it work really but I have stood up for myself which I’m not great at doing but I feel I really did well on this one

Nope! YOU don’t back down and say you’re not going but DH can with the kids because this is YOUR holiday with your husband and children!
Either the grandparents tell the other grandchild that they can’t come this time (they can book a break away with her by themselves if it’s that important) or they won’t be able to come either. Their choice.
Absolutely 100% DO NOT forgo your precious family break away. Stand up to them and who gives a shit if you offend them?!!!

SalmonOnFinnCrisp · Today 15:10

Heathercost · Today 14:52

We have. I even said we won’t go. And then get bombarded with please go. I was half expecting them to say ok we will let them know she can’t come. I even said use me. Blame me. Say because if her health we’ve spoken to her etc. but they won’t. They’ve told me not to speak to the mum directly as it would make it worse!? The children have been counting down the days to go so it’s not as easy as sticking to I’m not going either. I said I’m not happy. I’ve told her a lot of what I’ve said here about how I feel. But nothing. Not care whatsoever. So we either don’t go and the children are upset. Or I suck it up a fake a smile and try and make it work really but I have stood up for myself which I’m not great at doing but I feel I really did well on this one

Lets be clear These are NOT your only options.

You say...

look DN is not invited. MiL since you are adamant you want to take DN away wc 20th July you'll need to book a site for the camper van and sort something out for the 3 of you or booka flight somewhere.
Our holiday is our holiday - You 3 cannot come and join it... It's just not happening.

If she doesnt have the address DO NOT supply it.
If she does.... tell them in advance if they show up at the cottage you wont let them in and if needed you'll phone the police.

You have to fight crazy with crazy...

tinyspiny · Today 15:10

@Heathercost you need to just tell your MIL that you don’t want to spend your one holiday of the year with this child so they need to either not bring her or they all need to stay at home , you’ve paid for the cottage and you and your family are going to use it . Sod whether that makes you unpopular .

awoombawee · Today 15:12

You need to treat yourself and your own children better than this OP.

Duvetdayneeded · Today 15:14

Sorry but this his your holiday so either niece doesn’t come or parents in law and niece done come. Simple. They are selfish bastards.

Ocelotfeet27 · Today 15:14

I agree with PPs uninvite the in laws. Tell them sorry but it wasn't the trip you planned so either they uninvite the child or they are all uninvited. I would have DP ring his sister and say the child cannot come, if there's a fuss be clear that parents offered without permission and the child can't come as it wasn't agreed. If sister and parents insist then tell parents they can't come too. Life is too short to bend over backwards for selfish twats.

Enrichetta · Today 15:15

it seems that you are sending out mixed messages, the end effect of which is that they believe that you will cave in and they’ll get away with it.

You - and I mean you AND your husband - have to make it absolutely clear that the three of them will not be joining you on this holiday. He should put this in writing to them - succinct, concise, no waffle, no polite English beating around the bush.

You have paid for this and you are in desperate need of a relaxing holiday, so don’t let them walk all over you!

Terrribletwos · Today 15:15

SalmonOnFinnCrisp · Today 15:10

Lets be clear These are NOT your only options.

You say...

look DN is not invited. MiL since you are adamant you want to take DN away wc 20th July you'll need to book a site for the camper van and sort something out for the 3 of you or booka flight somewhere.
Our holiday is our holiday - You 3 cannot come and join it... It's just not happening.

If she doesnt have the address DO NOT supply it.
If she does.... tell them in advance if they show up at the cottage you wont let them in and if needed you'll phone the police.

You have to fight crazy with crazy...

Edited

That's a bit ridiculous though, especially when there's a child involved!

RoseField1 · Today 15:16

Heathercost · Today 14:52

We have. I even said we won’t go. And then get bombarded with please go. I was half expecting them to say ok we will let them know she can’t come. I even said use me. Blame me. Say because if her health we’ve spoken to her etc. but they won’t. They’ve told me not to speak to the mum directly as it would make it worse!? The children have been counting down the days to go so it’s not as easy as sticking to I’m not going either. I said I’m not happy. I’ve told her a lot of what I’ve said here about how I feel. But nothing. Not care whatsoever. So we either don’t go and the children are upset. Or I suck it up a fake a smile and try and make it work really but I have stood up for myself which I’m not great at doing but I feel I really did well on this one

If you click on quote we can see which post you're replying to, as you seem to be replying to specific posts.

I would tell MiL she needs to retract the invitation. You don't have space for another child, it's against the terms and conditions of the booking (that you made and paid for?) and your health means you need a calm and quiet holiday. You can explain the hurt feelings aspect of it at a later date.

Thawtfulpanda · Today 15:16

I would take my laptop, work through it. Leave the childcare to mil. Book a week off work after everyone gets back to spend with the dc on your own.

SoScarletItWas · Today 15:18

I would 100% be willing to be seen as the bad guy over this. I’d go straight to her mum and say Sorry Mandy but DN isn’t invited. The cottage isn’t big enough and it’s MY family holiday. MiL jumped the gun. DN cannot come. Do you want to tell her or shall I? (Of course DH should do this if I’ve done the maths right and it’s his sister’s child but if he won’t, I absolutely would.)

And there’s a very practical solution. Someone needs to pick up DN and bring her. So they just - don’t. You tell MiL not to and if they turn up with her they also won’t be coming into the cottage that you paid for. And mean it.

Absolute CF-ery of the highest order, being generous to DN on your plan and your dime.

Pandimoanymum · Today 15:19

Monr0e · Today 15:08

OP, those are not your only options, go with them or don't go.

The you really need to go with option 3 which is uninvite them. In fact, dh needs to do this, very firmly. Tell them they have completely ignored your wishes, they have overstepped and are no longer welcome. They will always continue to ignore you unless you stand up for yourself. If you won't do it for yourself, do it for your dc's.

It sounds from your responses that you are going to just go, and then probably spend the week letting your in-laws dictate what happens and you niece rule the roost. And your dc's will be pushed into second place again and have their holiday ruined. Please please don't let that happen. Use the excuse of the holiday let insurance if needs be. But really, they couldn't care less about upsetting you, why are you so bothered about upsetting them?

And put your phone on mute and let dh handle them.

THIS!!

Speakeasier · Today 15:20

awoombawee · Today 15:01

No, she needs to show them that she meant what she said. They can’t go now. It is simple. Not wait for next time it happens.

This is their holiday, don’t waste it.

I do agree I just didn’t think OP would do that hence suggesting a middle ground. But ideally what you suggested.

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