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AIBU to feel like my holiday has been ruined before we’ve even gone?

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Heathercost · Today 13:42

AIBU to feel like my holiday has been ruined before we’ve even gone?
My husband’s mum and her partner suggested that we all book a cottage in Wales together because they said they wanted to spend some proper time with us as a family.
We booked the cottage for me, my husband, our three children, his mum and her partner. It only sleeps seven, so it was booked for exactly the seven of us.
His mum has now invited another child to come for the whole holiday. Because the cottage only sleeps seven, her partner is now going to sleep in their camper van at night so that the child can take her place inside the cottage.
What makes this harder for me is that his mum and her partner don’t spend a huge amount of time with our three children. They already spend far more time with the child they have invited and are very close to her.
This holiday was their idea. They were the ones who said they wanted to go away with us and spend time with our family. I work full time and have very limited annual leave, so taking a week off is a big thing for me. It now feels as though I’m using that precious time on a holiday that has been completely changed from what I agreed to.
I had already made it clear that I didn’t want anyone else coming. I had also specifically spoken about our last family camping trip and how badly that went.
On that trip, several adults essentially dropped their children at the campsite and then went off to enjoy a relaxing week themselves. The children were left crammed into everybody else’s tents and camper vans, and the adults who had actually stayed at the campsite ended up looking after them all.
I had already said I did not want to be put in that position again. I had that conversation only weeks before this happened, which is partly why I feel so ignored.
The child was asked if she wanted to come and initially said no. I thought that should have been the end of it. Instead, it was brought up again, and she eventually agreed. His mum and partner now feels guilty and wishes they didn’t invite her but it’s done now.
I even suggested that they could simply explain that they had spoken to me and, because of my health and everything that has happened recently, I really needed the holiday to be focused on spending time with my own children. They chose not to do that.
I have PoTS and reactive hypoglycaemia and struggle with dizziness, blackouts, weakness, fatigue and my heart rate shooting up when I stand.
More recently, I was taken into hospital with stroke-like symptoms, including slurred speech, numbness and weakness down one side. Thankfully, a stroke was ruled out, but I’m still experiencing weakness in my arm and leg and problems with my speech at times. I’m now waiting for neurological investigations and neuro physiotherapy.
After such a frightening and exhausting time, I genuinely needed this break. I wanted to use my limited time away from work to spend time with my husband and children, and I hoped the children would finally get some proper time with their grandparents too.
Instead, I now feel as though the focus will mainly be on the child they have invited, because she is the child they already spend the most time with. They have changed the sleeping arrangements and moved one of the original adults out of the cottage to make sure she can come.
It isn’t that I dislike the child, because I don’t, and none of this is her fault. My issue is entirely with the adults. They invited another child onto a holiday that was already full, despite knowing I didn’t want anyone else coming and despite the fact that this was supposed to be their opportunity to spend time with us and our children.
I’m also worried that I’ll end up helping to look after her. If she becomes upset, plays up, wants to go home or needs lots of attention, it will affect the entire holiday. If there are any major problems, her mum will need to come and collect her. I cannot take responsibility for another child while managing my health and looking after my own three.
I feel like I have no choice but to go, put a smile on my face and make sure my children have a lovely time. They’ve been looking forward to it and would be devastated if we cancelled. It wouldn’t be fair for them to lose their holiday because of a decision they had no part in.
But for me, it no longer feels like the holiday I agreed to use my annual leave for. I’m not looking forward to it anymore. It feels like a waste of the very limited time I get off work, and I feel resentful, anxious and hurt that the one boundary I clearly set was ignored.
I’ve decided that after this I won’t agree to any more family holidays, camping trips or similar gatherings, because I don’t trust that the same thing wouldn’t happen again.
AIBU to feel this was unfair, particularly when the holiday was their idea because they claimed they wanted to spend time with us and our children?

OP posts:
WandaWhimsy · Today 20:30

Heathercost · Today 20:26

I’ve answered it a few times. I just admit I’ve never posted on a. Forum before and there is alot of comment. We paid nothing has been said about any payment from the child’s mother

Have in-laws contributed to the holiday payment @Heathercost ?

chocoluv · Today 20:31

Tangit · Today 20:17

People have asked you umpteen times about the payment situation!
Did you pay for MIL and her partner?
Did they pay for themselves?
Or did they pay for everyone?

As many people have stated, this changes the dynamics slightly but it seems like you're avoiding answering this.

MIL and her DP paid for themselves.

OP and her family paid for themselves.

As it’s self catering then the cost is the same regardless of whether the niece comes or not.

OP expects that MIL will pay for the nieces food and outings, rather than her mum.

pikkumyy77 · Today 20:32

Heathercost · Today 19:58

I’m having a large drink of wine and making the call. You guys have helped make me feel like I’m not in the wrong here and this is what it needs to be. I’ll mention the insurance as well as that’s a very fair point I feel as well. But wine first. My heart is honestly racing. I don’t handle these things well but it does need to be said

OP its not to late to learn that it if someone has to be unhappy in a situation it might as well not be you.

No is a complete sentence and you can avoid arguing—since that seems hard for you—by just not engaging. Just tect them. Don’t bother calling they just see it as the opening of negotiations.

Dear MIL: We will not be hosting niece on this trip. If you can’t accept that then please don’t come. We will perfectly understand. This decision is final.

Learn not to JADE: Justify, Argue, Defend, or Explain. Just state the decision. This is not a democracy so you do not need consensus or consent.

Shinyandnew1 · Today 20:34

chocoluv · Today 20:31

MIL and her DP paid for themselves.

OP and her family paid for themselves.

As it’s self catering then the cost is the same regardless of whether the niece comes or not.

OP expects that MIL will pay for the nieces food and outings, rather than her mum.

Where does the OP say that they paid for themselves and the in laws paid for themselves?

ArtforEveryone · Today 20:35

MadameEtourdie · Today 14:00

Will the cottage owners allow a camper van to use their property as a camping site - and an additional guest use their facilities?
If this is what is going to happen?
You may discover that it breaks their terms and conditions and the van or all of you are all asked to leave.

Maybe this scenario can help you?

Good luck.

Good point. A fairly similar situation arose for my family when we booked a long weekend away for a big birthday. One family member decided at short notice that they wanted to bring someone else. There was no spare bed for the extra person but more importantly I checked the terms and conditions of the cottage booking and it was very clear that the owners’ insurance was invalid if more than the maximum stated number of people stayed there and we were already at the maximum. This meant I was able to say no, sorry, can’t accommodate anyone else.
OP, if you booked the cottage, I would check the T&Cs.

BlackeyedSusan · Today 20:36

Heathercost · Today 18:21

I said I’d speak to the mum. I’d take responsibility on me and say I have issues. I’ve been told not to say anything as it would make things worse. Then we were told she’s not going to now a night before we leave I had the text to say she’s going now and I’m stuck as I’d be the bad person either way now. Telling a child who’s excited to go they can’t go or disappointing my children by not going. Or going and trying to have a holiday and enjoy it but just don’t feel up to it now

None of the hem give a shit about you or your health, why should you care about making it worse?

FancyBiscuitsLevel · Today 20:38

Good luck with your call! I agree with @pikkumyy77- someone will be upset, there’s no reason to decide it has to be you!

give you have paid for this cottage, it’s completely fine to say your decision is final. This other child isn’t welcome. If MIL no longer wants to come, that’s fine.

chocoluv · Today 20:38

Shinyandnew1 · Today 20:34

Where does the OP say that they paid for themselves and the in laws paid for themselves?

Surely if they had paid for PIL that would be the most important part and OP would have said it in her OP and multiple times throughout her thread.

She has only said that the mum has not given them any money directly or mentioned giving them money.

There are some things that OP won’t answer. One being how much the PIL paid and the other is where is DH in all of this and why is it her contacting his mum/sister and not him dealing with it.

aberamagold · Today 20:40

I hope you've phoned them OP.
You MUST tell them that you have booked the cottage for seven, you CAN'T have an extra person sleeping in a camper van on the drive or you risk being thrown out, and you have no intention of taking that risk.
You must also tell them what you've written here, that given your health problems and limited time off you need a peaceful week off with your children and you CANNOT deal with this other child's behavioural issues.
She is NOT invited so CANNOT come.
If there is any pushback, or you think they it will cause problems on the holiday, uninvite your in-laws as well (I'd uninvite them anyway for being so bloody rude). YOU are paying for this holiday so YOU decide who is coming.
PLEASE stick up for yourself and have a lovely holiday with your family.
You don't have to make yourself miserable to accommodate other people.

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · Today 20:41

NZDreaming · Today 20:25

@Heathercost not sure why your husband isn’t the one sorting this, it’s his mother. Secondly if they won’t capitulate I’d uninvite them all, you paid for the cottage, they can take their own trip if they still want to take her away. Thirdly they are so entitled and rude to have put you in this position, they’re taking her out of school for a week for no good reason and invited her twice despite your explicit instructions not to. These people are awful!

Completely agree.

Its awful that they are putting you under so much stress when you've been so poorly.

I hope your DH manages to sort this for you. You don't deserve this treatment

BuckChuckets · Today 20:42

Heathercost · Today 20:26

I’ve answered it a few times. I just admit I’ve never posted on a. Forum before and there is alot of comment. We paid nothing has been said about any payment from the child’s mother

So tell them they're not coming, it's just you, your husband, and your kids. Cheekiest of cheeky fuckers!

WandaWhimsy · Today 20:43

chocoluv · Today 20:38

Surely if they had paid for PIL that would be the most important part and OP would have said it in her OP and multiple times throughout her thread.

She has only said that the mum has not given them any money directly or mentioned giving them money.

There are some things that OP won’t answer. One being how much the PIL paid and the other is where is DH in all of this and why is it her contacting his mum/sister and not him dealing with it.

@Heathercost has mentioned PIL not mentioning extra money for the extra child but not whether they paid part of the cost of the cottage. If PIL paid part of the cost of the cottage, @Heathercost can transfer that back to them as a refund tonight. Problem solved.

susiedaisy1912 · Today 20:43

I’m sure op said early on that she and her dh paid for the accommodation not mil

susiedaisy1912 · Today 20:44

Mil & Fil can go on holiday with their ‘problem ‘ granddaughter and the child’s mother in her own time at her own expense not gate crash her sons only family holiday.

Harrietsaunt · Today 20:46

I absolutely wouldn’t go on the holiday unless you know for sure she’s not coming.

pikkumyy77 · Today 20:48

OP how can you not recognize how manipulative and scheming your MIL/SIL are? Obviously they never accepted your original “no” and only pretended to handle it so that when they turned around and told you that niece was coming it felt “too late” for you to protest. These are absolutely the mind fuck games of very manipulative people. You seem to have extreme people pleasing tendencies and they will simply continue to abuse you and take advantage of you until you and the relationship are ruined.

Take a look at books like Wolves in Sheep's Clothing or Out Of The Fog (Fear Obligation and Guilt) or any book about handling high conflict and narcissistic people.

ProudCat · Today 20:49

If you take all the emotion out of this:

Has the cottage owner / renter given permission for the camper van, because I'm pretty sure this would invalidate their insurance?

You can then proceed on the basis that no one can sleep in the camper van and the maximum for the house is 7, again, any increase to this would breach the contract and invalidate the insurance.

With that in mind, they either come on their own, or they don't come at all.

WandaWhimsy · Today 20:51

Harrietsaunt · Today 20:46

I absolutely wouldn’t go on the holiday unless you know for sure she’s not coming.

I wouldn’t go either. The children have their father and grandparents to look after them + his niece.

ReadingSoManyThreads · Today 20:55

Heathercost · Today 19:54

Our name. Nothing has been said about any money contribution from the child’s mother for food either. I’ve got bags of snacks etc for my children which now costs a small fortune. I know she will be turning up with nothing as well so I’m sure his mum will be paying for all her outings and food. She has siblings which are being left behind and goes on regular holidays with her family.

So just tell your PILs they are no longer invited on the trip.

You're in control here but are allowing them to be the ones in control.

Grow a backbone and put your foot down. You'll feel better for it.

bigboykitty · Today 20:56

chocoluv · Today 20:31

MIL and her DP paid for themselves.

OP and her family paid for themselves.

As it’s self catering then the cost is the same regardless of whether the niece comes or not.

OP expects that MIL will pay for the nieces food and outings, rather than her mum.

The OP refuses to answer this question. I know you love a wind up, but don't be a dick and just repeatedly make things up.

BerryTwister · Today 20:57

It really is very easy.
Just say that the booking is in your name, the number allowed is 7, and if you breach that rule you’re all in danger of being kicked out. You would then be blacklisted by the website, and you’d miss your holiday. Simple as that.

Imagine if it was a flight you were going on. Would you expect to turn up at the airport with 8 people, when you’d only bought 7 tickets?!

Heathercost · Today 20:59

bigboykitty · Today 20:56

The OP refuses to answer this question. I know you love a wind up, but don't be a dick and just repeatedly make things up.

I really have answered is so many time. We paid for the cottage. Husband seems to be burying his head in the sand about it but is in agreement with me. We both very much feel the same. I wish he would stand up but he doesn’t want the argument. But I’ve sent the message to them now. We shall see what comes from it.

OP posts:
WandaWhimsy · Today 21:02

Heathercost · Today 20:59

I really have answered is so many time. We paid for the cottage. Husband seems to be burying his head in the sand about it but is in agreement with me. We both very much feel the same. I wish he would stand up but he doesn’t want the argument. But I’ve sent the message to them now. We shall see what comes from it.

@Heathercost that settles it then, PIL are uninvited.

Harrietsaunt · Today 21:02

If they argue say you are cancelling the whole booking. Then call and see if can change the booking to a smaller property

JacknDiane · Today 21:06

Honestly op you and your dh need to grow a pair.

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