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To be upset with DD for this?

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dressdrama26 · Yesterday 16:17

Last year I lent my DD (19) a summer dress to go on holiday with her boyfriend. I’m going on holiday myself in a few weeks with DH and asked her for the dress back (assuming it was still in her wardrobe). She said “I’m not sure if I still have it, I think I sold it on Vinted”. I was perplexed, asked her why on earth she would do this? She said “well I just didn’t think you wanted it back”. In fairness, I hadn’t asked her for it back since last summer as I hadn’t needed it yet, but still, surely you don’t sell an item of clothing someone has lent you just because the person hasn’t asked for it back yet? Just seems crazy to assume the person doesn’t want it back and is happy for you to sell it? She’s normally a caring and lovely girl, so this has thrown me off a bit as it feels really disrespectful. She offered to replace it and has already ordered the replacement and paid for faster delivery so it arrives before my holiday, but I’m still just left a bit bewildered and disappointed. Am I overreacting to be upset here?

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RoseField1 · Yesterday 18:19

welshgirl2025 · Yesterday 18:07

bit inconsiderate but she is your daughter and has put it right by buying you another one. I dont begrudge my kids anything

Why not? Don't you exist as a person in your own right? Do you think it's teaching them good values that they can have anything of yours that they fancy?

dressdrama26 · Yesterday 18:19

@HotCrossBunplease Yes - you have perfectly articulated my feelings there - it’s about the disappointment and that sense of, I thought I’d raised someone a bit more thoughtful and respectful than that? It’s shaken me a little for that reason, I think. Thank you for understanding. You’ve restored my faith in MN 😀

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Nopuedeser · Yesterday 18:20

HotCrossBunplease · Yesterday 16:23

Astonished at the “never mind” responses. I’d be bloody livid that at 19 years old she thinks it’s OK to sell someone else’s property.

Apologies are just words.

Edited

Apologies are just words, yes. Immediately buying a new dress and paying for fast delivery are actions, however. How would you have preferred for her to resolve it? Or are you saying that the situation was entirely irredeemable?

dressdrama26 · Yesterday 18:20

Yetone · Yesterday 18:17

I think people who start selling stuff on vinted actually get addicted to it and are constantly looking round thinking what else they can sell.

Evidently so 😂

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HotCrossBunplease · Yesterday 18:21

dressdrama26 · Yesterday 18:19

@HotCrossBunplease Yes - you have perfectly articulated my feelings there - it’s about the disappointment and that sense of, I thought I’d raised someone a bit more thoughtful and respectful than that? It’s shaken me a little for that reason, I think. Thank you for understanding. You’ve restored my faith in MN 😀

Luv ya Mum 🤣🤣🤣

itchyelbowsandswollenankles · Yesterday 18:21

dressdrama26 · Yesterday 18:11

@itchyelbowsandswollenankles
No, I don’t want people to pile on my daughter.

Firstly that’s a bit silly because my daughter isn’t on the thread. Secondly, I came here to explore my own feelings about this, conceded a few posts in that I may have been unreasonable for feeling this way, and then continued to debate with other posters (who both agreed and did not agree with me). Thirdly, many thanks for your input - however since it’s mostly incorrect assumptions and (presumably) some projection on your part, I shall not engage further with you.

What’s incorrect on my behalf?

You lent a dress. It got sold. It’s been replaced. Why do you need to carry on like this?

RoseField1 · Yesterday 18:21

HotCrossBunplease · Yesterday 18:15

OK, so it does seem that you consider yourself to have been adequately compensated for your loss, which is good. With an element of betterment, actually, as you are getting new-for-old.

However, your remaining issue is the disappointment you feel that your daughter clearly doesn’t listen to you, did not give you a second thought when she arranged the sale, and has not realised without prompting that what she did was inappropriate. This has shaken your faith in her character.

I guess all I can say is I empathise with you, and it’s a shame that she will now think it was all sorted by buying you another one. But I can see why you have chosen to vent here instead of saying anything more to her.

Edited

She didn't say it was a brand new dress?

RoseField1 · Yesterday 18:23

Nopuedeser · Yesterday 18:20

Apologies are just words, yes. Immediately buying a new dress and paying for fast delivery are actions, however. How would you have preferred for her to resolve it? Or are you saying that the situation was entirely irredeemable?

Personally, I would have expected an apology for doing it, a reasonable explanation as to why she thought it was ok to do it AND a replacement dress. Then I would put it behind me. It's unresolved for OP because the girl didn't apologise or explain. Just having a version of her dress back doesn't erase the disrespect of her DD's actions.

gingangirly · Yesterday 18:23

Reading this thread - and the other thread about the CF asking to borrow a £500 prom dress I’m seriously glad I had boys…

HotCrossBunplease · Yesterday 18:23

Nopuedeser · Yesterday 18:20

Apologies are just words, yes. Immediately buying a new dress and paying for fast delivery are actions, however. How would you have preferred for her to resolve it? Or are you saying that the situation was entirely irredeemable?

Yes, see OP’s most recent post. The shift in her perception of her DD can’t be undone; she will move past it eventually I’m sure, but buying a new dress does not undo the original act.

Nopuedeser · Yesterday 18:24

HotCrossBunplease · Yesterday 18:23

Yes, see OP’s most recent post. The shift in her perception of her DD can’t be undone; she will move past it eventually I’m sure, but buying a new dress does not undo the original act.

Ah ok. Sad that people can’t be forgiven for mistakes though, even if they’ve taken all the steps possible to make it right.

dressdrama26 · Yesterday 18:25

RoseField1 · Yesterday 18:23

Personally, I would have expected an apology for doing it, a reasonable explanation as to why she thought it was ok to do it AND a replacement dress. Then I would put it behind me. It's unresolved for OP because the girl didn't apologise or explain. Just having a version of her dress back doesn't erase the disrespect of her DD's actions.

Yes - another one who understands- thanks @RoseField1

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RoseField1 · Yesterday 18:25

Nopuedeser · Yesterday 18:24

Ah ok. Sad that people can’t be forgiven for mistakes though, even if they’ve taken all the steps possible to make it right.

Apart from actually apologising?

Nopuedeser · Yesterday 18:26

gingangirly · Yesterday 18:23

Reading this thread - and the other thread about the CF asking to borrow a £500 prom dress I’m seriously glad I had boys…

Ah yes, because 2 people complaining about their daughters means that all daughters are awful. Presumably you must have been an awful daughter too!
Famously, no son has ever done anything wrong, of course.

dressdrama26 · Yesterday 18:27

itchyelbowsandswollenankles · Yesterday 18:21

What’s incorrect on my behalf?

You lent a dress. It got sold. It’s been replaced. Why do you need to carry on like this?

What’s incorrect is that you stated I “just want people to pile on my daughter”. That’s quite an unpleasant (and wildly incorrect) judgement about my (assumed) character.

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Nopuedeser · Yesterday 18:28

RoseField1 · Yesterday 18:25

Apart from actually apologising?

Someone upthread said that apologies are ‘just words’. To me, replacing the dress immediately would be more valuable than an apology. Of course the OP may feel differently.

HotCrossBunplease · Yesterday 18:29

Nopuedeser · Yesterday 18:28

Someone upthread said that apologies are ‘just words’. To me, replacing the dress immediately would be more valuable than an apology. Of course the OP may feel differently.

Perhaps read her posts? For a start, it turned out there wasn’t even an apology.

Spottyvases · Yesterday 18:30

HotCrossBunplease · Yesterday 16:23

Astonished at the “never mind” responses. I’d be bloody livid that at 19 years old she thinks it’s OK to sell someone else’s property.

Apologies are just words.

Edited

An apt username here 😄

Tinycatclub · Yesterday 18:30

RoseField1 · Yesterday 18:23

Personally, I would have expected an apology for doing it, a reasonable explanation as to why she thought it was ok to do it AND a replacement dress. Then I would put it behind me. It's unresolved for OP because the girl didn't apologise or explain. Just having a version of her dress back doesn't erase the disrespect of her DD's actions.

She’s given an explanation. She didn’t think her mum wanted it back. Why is everyone pretending that a loan vs gift misunderstandings has never happened before in the history of the world and there is no way it could have?

Mischance · Yesterday 18:31

A simple.misunderstandingbwhich your DD has instantly remedied. In our house we would have laughed about this.
It's really no big deal.

Tinycatclub · Yesterday 18:32

dressdrama26 · Yesterday 18:27

What’s incorrect is that you stated I “just want people to pile on my daughter”. That’s quite an unpleasant (and wildly incorrect) judgement about my (assumed) character.

It’s the impression you gave me as well. Maybe you should reflect on why more than one person has come to that conclusion, because you’re right - it IS unpleasant.

dressdrama26 · Yesterday 18:33

@Mischance oh wow. You’d have laughed about an adult member of the family selling another family member’s belongings, when it had been made clear at the point of lending that it was indeed a loan and important to that person? I find that odd, to be honest. It’s not really a laughing matter, surely?

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Stationbike · Yesterday 18:35

Don't be gaslit OP.
I have a daughter that age and I too would be stunned if she sold an item of mine that dhe borrowed.

Irrespective of whether the status was unclear, who does that.

Extremely thoughtless as is the lack of apology.

I wouldn't be impressed and I would tell that it is not something she should ever do with anyone's property.

Very basic courtesy to double check with the owner.

Glad she is replacing it.

If a friend did it to her, i bet she wouldn't be impressed.

TheFormerMrsTruelove · Yesterday 18:35

dressdrama26 · Yesterday 17:47

And that I should perhaps have asked her to say sorry. At age 20. Mind blown.

I think this would be what upset me more than anything else.

It’s outrageous that anyone would think it was ok to sell something that they’d borrowed from someone else, and I don’t believe that any of the posters here would be so blasé about it in real life if it happened to them. It’s easy to pretend otherwise when it’s not your kid who has done it. But teens and early twenties can be spectacularly selfish and entitled, and she has replaced it, albeit a slightly different version.

I think it would bother me more that she doesn’t seem to understand that you can’t sell other people’s things, or that doing so would warrant a massive apology. I think you might have missed your window to have that discussion with her though. The time to say something was when she’d told you she’d sold it. A loud Wtf were you thinking, how dare you would have done the trick. Your only real option now is to sit her down, say you know she’s replaced it, but it has really shocked you that she’s the sort of person who would think doing that was acceptable and you want to know that she understands why you can’t go around doing that to other people’s things. Either that or refuse to lend her anything ever again and tell her you can’t trust her with it.

dressdrama26 · Yesterday 18:35

@Tinycatclub
and others are able to see the actual situation and understand my viewpoint - so no, I don’t need to do any reflecting on why there are people in the world who can’t read / comprehend/ make assumptions/ project. That’s not a me issue, therefore no self reflection needed 🙂

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