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AIBU to think King Charles comes across as a really crap dad?

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mintleavesandthyme · 06/07/2026 16:00

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c77yykl87yno

I mean really, this is just pathetic. No one is believing that KC couldn’t find a spare bed for his son. AIBU to think that as the parent KC needs to get a grip and grow up instead of just fuelling the drama?

Headshot of Prince Harry in a blue suit, white shirt, and dark green tie looking off-camera in a room with several men in suits out of focus in the background,

Buckingham Palace says Prince Harry will not stay at palace

Royal sources say the Duke of Sussex had not responded to the offer of accommodation at a Royal residence by the deadline last week.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c77yykl87yno

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Passingthrough123 · 06/07/2026 18:41

Sereine · 06/07/2026 18:37

Try thinking about it for a minute.

You may not have noticed, but at the age of 77 King Charles has rather a big job which keeps him pretty fully occupied in the UK. Even when he has breaks, he can't just hop on a plane to go and see his grandchildren as it involves massive planning - plus, if he did, history demonstrates that there is no guarantee that Harry won't throw a hissy fit and stop him seeing them. Harry has always been free to bring the famly here, he chooses not to because of his obsession with security.

The Royal Family also has to bear in mind that H&M are storing up each and every interaction they have with the RF with a view to selling a highly embellished and sel-pitying version to the highest bidder.

He's also still undergoing cancer treatment, which Prince Harry seems to forget. If I wanted to reconcile with a parent and found out they had cancer, I'd do whatever it takes to make sure I visited as much as possible, not give him the runaround to add to his stress.

mintleavesandthyme · 06/07/2026 18:42

DaisyDooley · 06/07/2026 18:29

Harry does not need a high level of security- he just wants it.
He has the insane idea that Meghan will die the same way his mother did.
The paparazzi don’t exsist in the same way anymore and if Meghan doesn’t get in a car driven by a drunk & not put her seatbelt on she will be fine,

Harry &Meghan had full time MET armed police protection when they were working royals who lived here.
When they left the Royal family, their home and the UK they lost the right to that level of security.
We have reciprocal agreements with other countries that when a high ranking royal or the prime minister visit there they take their own police security with them to guard them. So when the king did his state visit to America he took his own teams with him.They are armed and protect him. Theyhave access to intelligence. And it works the other way -when Macron, or The King of Jordan or POTUS come here they bring their own armed security to protect their ‘principles’ while they are here for a short time.
So when Harry & Meghan left they knew they would not retain their PPO as there is no mechanism where we can have British Police officers , armed and protecting someone who LIVES in a different country. It wouldn’t be safe for the PPO and we cannot risk our police. It wouldn’t also be prohibitively expensive to have 4 teams of several police officers living in the USA, flying back etc. It simply cannot be done -our police officers cannot be full time police in the USA.
If Barak Obama decided he wanted to live here he would have to let go of his Secret Service detail as they would not be allowed to live here &go all over the place carrying guns.
The current arrangement is that Harry needs to give 28days notice and a review will be done of his current level of danger (have MI5/6 received any credible threats etc) to decide what level of security he needs. If he stayed at a royal residence -ie Buckingham palace - he would whilst there be protected in the same way the monarch is while there. The palace (like Windsor) has the armed military guarding it 168 hrs per week 52 weeks of the year.
Harry wants an automatic team of Met police on hand to take him round the uk wherever he wants to go guarding him. That’s not feasible though. We don’t have loads of ‘spare’ armed police hanging round waiting for Harry. He is asked to give 28days notice so they can check his current threat level. IF the threat level is deemed high he will get a team - leave would be cancelled, overtime offered,shifts altered -hence the need for 28days notice. But the Home Office (who decide who does and does not receive automatic protection) do not deem Harry at risk atm -and frankly this should pkease him. The Home office and RAVEC hardly want to have somone killed do they? So of course if it were deemed necessary Harry et al would get protection.
But that’s not good enough for Harry. He WANTS it because William has it and Harrystill thinks he is veryvery important.
IF he was truly simply bothered about being safe he wouldn’t announce his plans days or weeks in advance. He would arrive without fanfare, stay at BP -his children could use the pool and gardens as safe as houses - andgowhere he wanted to without any bother. He could bring his own team of security -unarmed - to protect him just like every other celebrity.
Lewis Hamilton -who has received awful threats - just has security. As does Tom Cruise. Prince Edward gets the tube around London -without security!! As do his children! Beatrice & Eugenie are often seen round Kensington shopping &lunching. No security.
Harry is I believe getting low on funds. His security costs an estimated $3 million a year. He wants to be declared a PPI so he gets automatic armed security provided by the country he is in -however this status is reserved for heads of state,prime ministers, presidents, foreign secretaries and the highest level diplomats (like ambassador to the United States)while theyare in that position -so once Starmer resigns he will no longer hve that status, the next PM will.
Harrywants this as itwill save him millions -but he will never get it as he isn’t important enough and no matter how much he shouts that he is andthe sausage squad tell me on twitter how important Harry & Meghan are it’s not going to happen.

That was longer that I thought it would be when i decided to reply.
Anyway, hope that explains it. 😀

very interesting. Thanks for the reply! One question though… who are the sausage squad?

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TunnocksOrDeath · 06/07/2026 18:42

Removed post as just repeating what others had said.

Newname26 · 06/07/2026 18:43

Owl55 · 06/07/2026 18:38

The late Queen gave Frogmore Cottege to Harry and Meghan as a wedding present , why is he not allowed to stay there if he’s the legal owner? Plus security is tight on the Windsor estate .

Frogmore was given up after Harry left for the States. He also repayed a chunk of money for the renovations.

I don't really understand the wedding present bit, the public paid the renovations, and it's part of the Windsor Estate.

GameOfJones · 06/07/2026 18:45

Harry seems so conflicted with saying he wants a quiet life and privacy for his family, yet acting as if he wants attention at every turn.

I really liked Harry and Meghan at first and had a lot of sympathy for them when they decided to leave the UK but this behaviour of the pair of them since is exactly what annoyed me and many other people. They say they want a quiet life and for the media to leave them alone but their actions tell a different story.

Harry comes across as a total knob to be honest.

jeffgoldblum · 06/07/2026 18:45

landlordhell · 06/07/2026 18:23

I think KC could make more effort. Why hasn’t he been out to visit H&M? Surely he can house them for the visit! Really bad.

Do people not understand that the king is HOS as such he has IPP, this means everytime he travels internationally his security is covered by the country he travels to! , do you really think that America should fund his expenses because his son can’t be bothered to travel? Not to mention, this is an elderly man with cancer!!!!

Passingthrough123 · 06/07/2026 18:46

Breaking news coming in... Harry's spokesperson has just released a statement confirming he's arrived in the UK. I mean, WTAF! If he's that worried about security and being a terrorist target, why the hell is his team trumpeting his every move like it's a Presidential visit?

The bald-headed ego has landed.

HelenaWilson · 06/07/2026 18:47

The Royal Family also has to bear in mind that H&M are storing up each and every interaction they have with the RF with a view to selling a highly embellished and sel-pitying version to the highest bidder.

They wanted to bring a photographer when they took Lilibet to meet the late Queen.(And were told a very firm No.)

Lugol · 06/07/2026 18:50

mintleavesandthyme · 06/07/2026 18:24

Racism is structural and pervasive. I’m not about to give you a human geography and cultural history essay. Go and educate yourself

What are you drivelling on about? 😂

How is Harry not staying at Buckingham Palace racist?

Explain yourself.

ThatCyanCat · 06/07/2026 18:50

GameOfJones · 06/07/2026 18:45

Harry seems so conflicted with saying he wants a quiet life and privacy for his family, yet acting as if he wants attention at every turn.

I really liked Harry and Meghan at first and had a lot of sympathy for them when they decided to leave the UK but this behaviour of the pair of them since is exactly what annoyed me and many other people. They say they want a quiet life and for the media to leave them alone but their actions tell a different story.

Harry comes across as a total knob to be honest.

This is how I feel too. Liked them a lot, very supportive of them doing their own thing, wished them well and... this is it. They aren't setting up businesses or doing anything I thought they'd do, they're just capitalising endlessly on the titles and status they claimed to find so oppressive.

Whaleandsnail6 · 06/07/2026 18:50

Newname26 · 06/07/2026 18:39

Do you honestly believe that? I think that poor me, sob story.

Keeping in mind both Grandparents were at Balmoral, his Dad was there too, Princess Ann was probably there too (Peter and Zara were both at Balmoral) plus whatever staff were there.

It reported that Charles woke William first and together they woke Harry.
I don't buy that nobody hugged the boys.

Exactly this

Also, Charles did appear to show affection. There is photos of him holding Harrys hand whilst looking at floral tributes

Wouldn't believe much of what was written in Spare ..Harry totally lied about the circumstances of where he was and how he was told about Queen Mothers death to do the whole "poor me" routine ...Said he was alone at school when she died and staff told him, when in reality he was on holiday with his dad and brother

BreadInCaptivity · 06/07/2026 18:50

Passingthrough123 · 06/07/2026 18:46

Breaking news coming in... Harry's spokesperson has just released a statement confirming he's arrived in the UK. I mean, WTAF! If he's that worried about security and being a terrorist target, why the hell is his team trumpeting his every move like it's a Presidential visit?

The bald-headed ego has landed.

The bald headed ego has landed 😂😂😂

3peassuit · 06/07/2026 18:51

I wish he would just come over, do his Invictus bit and then sod off back to California. This much drama is way too much for a grown man to indulge in.

Indaloo · 06/07/2026 18:51

HelenaWilson · 06/07/2026 16:08

Harry was offered accommodation at Buckingham Palace.
No member of the Royal Family is currently living at Buckingham Palace.
If someone were to stay there, arrangements about security, housekeeping, catering, other staff as required, would need to be made.
Therefore Harry, quite reasonably, was asked to confirm whether he wanted to stay there and who if anyone would be accompanying him.
He didn't confirm, and it's now too late to make the necessary arrangements.
None of which has anything to do with the King's parenting skills.

I thought it was a bit ridiculous until you point that out. Didn’t realise no one was living there.

TightlyLacedCorset · 06/07/2026 18:53

The question is, is there precedent for unintentional last minute stays at Buckingham Palace?

I tried to find some information but apparently, unofficial visits are not made public.

Mike Tindal says he has stayed at the Palace a fair few times and it was a fairly casual atmosphere. I don't know if Eugenie and Beatrice have.

In any case if there is precedent and it simply isn't being done for H&M then perhaps H has legitimate cause for complaint.

It is stretching my credulity more a little bit to believe that well versed and experienced staff (some who have worked for decades) and housekeepers that attend and deal with large state functions and all manner of dignities and entourages would find it difficult to accommodate last minute plans. There has to be protocols for when Royals attend that are written and followed and likely well rehearsed including for emergency contingencies. Nothing is going to convince me that BP staff weren't up to the task and couldn't manage that, and if they are slightly put out.... they're staff.

I believe it could have been done.

I'm not well versed on the security but believe BP must have security Insitu and again, surely some cover could be found and paid for privately by KC he's not short of a bob or two.

I find the press coverage distasteful and it is, to my mind, getting put of control in terms of its focus on highlighting negative interactions between KC and his son. They're a dysfunctional family, but the press are salaciously hyping up every aspect of the fallout. How can there be any room for reconciliation in such an atmosphere?

Passingthrough123 · 06/07/2026 18:53

Indaloo · 06/07/2026 18:51

I thought it was a bit ridiculous until you point that out. Didn’t realise no one was living there.

It's also a partial building site because of the refurbishment that's due to last until next year. So presumably him staying there might mean the builders have to down tools for a week because of security concerns. A week's delay at the taxpayers' expense.

FancyBiscuitsLevel · 06/07/2026 18:53

IcedPurple · 06/07/2026 18:08

But a room was possible to make available to harry. The King surely would not have offered if it was never possible to make good on that offer. The arrangements - however extensive they were, should have been made assuming it was a “yes” from Harry from the point the offer was made. Even if he then turned it down. The Palace should have prepared for the visit they offered. And as they knew harry was over for the court case, they knew the dates, this isn’t something they couldn’t do, it’s something they didn’t do.

Come on, that's ridiculous and you must know it.

You're saying the King should have organised security staff, cleaners, caterers, drivers, furniture movers etc, all of whom will need to be paid and rostered, for a visit which might not even happen? You're saying a 41 year old man is incapable of making basic plans for a trip he knew he was making months ago? Harry is basically unemployed. Why on earth could he not respond to an invitation on time?

And you must also know that it's a little bit more than 'making a room available'. As has been explained many times already, Harry would be travelling with an entourage, who would have to get security clearance before being allowed to stay in the official residence of the King.

Harry's a grown man which children of his own. Long past time for being coddled and indulged.

nope- if the cost of putting harry up at Buckingham palace was acceptable enough to offer, then it was acceptable enough to be spent even if he didn’t show. You could easily have a cut off for others staying with him, but his stay would be available. Then the palace could brief today “Harry is still available to stay at BP but unfortunately there’s not enough time to do security checks for his team travelling with him. They will have to make their own arrangements.”

Or not offer. You’re either prepared to spend the money and make the effort or you’re not.

There is no interpretation of this that doesn’t look like a fuck up from Charles/ his staff. By offering so publicly in the first place, they’ve created this mess. Harry has been over before and stayed in hotels, Charles chose to offer accommodation and to make that public, stupid decision not to follow through.

Autumngirl5 · 06/07/2026 18:54

waterrat · 06/07/2026 18:04

Charles could have got on a plane to meet his grandkids - he only has two sons and two sets of grandkids. It's absolutely tragic to allow any family row - with a son harry clearly desperate for some sort of reunion - to carry on.

I think the modern 'cutting people off' is so sad. Families need to get on DESPITE disagreements, not only if they can all get along

I think charles seems toxic and harry seems very very desperate to bring his grandkids over to meet him.

King Charles isn’t toxic at all. My ex husband used to have meetings with him (before he was king) and always spoke very highly of him and thought a lot of him.
Harry is a spoilt brat who is determined to cause trouble.

Jazz7 · 06/07/2026 18:56

He said no he didn’t want to stay there changed his mind last minute not surprising security catering housekeeping and all the people he would need and expect to look after him couldn’t just be drafted in. They have lives too even if they’re not royal.

Sereine · 06/07/2026 18:56

Victorius19 · 06/07/2026 16:54

Totally agree, those two boys should never have been paraded so publicly at Diana's funeral. There was no need at all for a public funeral, and a memorial held later for the celebrities demanding attention from having spoken to her once would have sufficed. I think the late Queen was very right to keep them at Balmoral - the public baying for blood that week was heinous.

The Queen was in an impossible position, though. If you were around that week you'll remember what a weird atmosphere there was - people were almost aggressive in mourning Diana, despite the fact that up till that point she was definitely sliding down the charts in terms of popularity. It felt like you would be publicly lynched if you dared to suggest she was anythiing less than a living saint. People were baying to see her children. If they'd been kept away from view at the funeral there would have been countless conspiracy theories around. However, on their own account they were given a choice, and I assume if they had said no the Queen would have fully accepted that, no matter what the consequences would have been in terms of the public perception of her.

Crudd99 · 06/07/2026 18:57

TheLightSideOfTheMoon · 06/07/2026 16:10

Surely Harry can afford a hotel if his dad can’t house him?

Why the drama??

For content for his next poor me book and interviews.

KittyHigham · 06/07/2026 18:57

Passingthrough123 · 06/07/2026 18:46

Breaking news coming in... Harry's spokesperson has just released a statement confirming he's arrived in the UK. I mean, WTAF! If he's that worried about security and being a terrorist target, why the hell is his team trumpeting his every move like it's a Presidential visit?

The bald-headed ego has landed.

FFS

IonianNerveGrip · 06/07/2026 18:58

Nothing is going to convince me that BP staff weren't up to the task and couldn't manage that, and if they are slightly put out.... they're staff.

Wow.

But are there actually contingencies with visiting royals/dignitaries who have security needs staying at BP with no notice, are there situations where it might come up? I know there's always ongoing plans for things that are bound to occur at some point but not with much warning, like the death of the monarch and a massive state funeral, but this is something different again.

FenellaFeldman · 06/07/2026 18:59

3peassuit · 06/07/2026 18:51

I wish he would just come over, do his Invictus bit and then sod off back to California. This much drama is way too much for a grown man to indulge in.

It's not even the proper Invictus! It's "a year to go"! Just for his own publicity, all of this.

WildFlowerBees · 06/07/2026 18:59

Im sure Hazza can write another book about it.